Originally Posted by mark haflich
Amirm. I am somewhat surprised at the insult you posted about where one sets the bar and this being based on their profession.
I made no insult but made an observation that your bar is much lower than mine in what observations you accept. If that is not factual, let me know. That is how it seemed from your posts. I am friends with many people who take your position and I don't consider any of them any less smart than me. Audiophiles differ on these things drastically and that difference is what makes us want to come here and have these conversations. IMHO if we want to take them as insults, then we shouldn't bother being here.
In case you didn`t know I have a degree in Engineering from oe of the better engineering and science schools in the country. Despite the considerable time I had to spend away from my studies being on the one din 1A team we had, hockey, I managed through a lot of summer work to graduate at the top of my Department. Of course this was manymany years ago and I am not very digital savy. We all have cetain areas of expertise and we all have different egrees of intelligence.
No, I didn't know you had an engineering degree. That said, having gone through the same education, I don't recall anyone teaching you how an AVR works. How HDMI works. How compressed audio is mux'ed on a Blu-ray disc. What the audibility results of jitter are. What is room correction. Or frankly 99% of the stuff we talk about.
If your school taught you all of this, kudos to whoever put together that program and I look forward in the future to hearing engineering explanations of what we are talking about from your end.
That said, as males, we are always guilty of trying to make ourselves the "alpha wolf" and you and I are no different.
To wit, much of what I know per above, did not come from going to school but rather, in building Audio/Video/computer products for companies and personal experience (electronics was my hobby since I was little). As I learned more, I also changed my views on many things. Without the incredible amount of resources I had at my disposal, I am sure I would not know what I know now. An EE degree gave the fundamentals to learn these things but that was it.
I have conducted many many ABs from being in the high end AV business for some 27 years now. Many tests have been double blind. Somethings that I can discern 9 times out of ten (why not perfection? I get tired) I can not explain. Why shining a light on a cartridge makes the sound worse
What was the nature of your double-blind testing for that?
, why little jars of pepples in the back room corners improves the bass performance
You have a double blind test that shows that too?
, why bowls of water, with and without ice) in front of the speakers improves the sound stasge for lack of a better word, stuff that some would consider stupid. It can`t be. But my observations are repeatable and are not financially driven even though I am in the business.
Again, I would love to know the nature of your testing for all of these.
I would suggest not to let you go scott free for your insult, that perhaps your audio acuity might be a lot lower than ideally it should be amd far below mine in areas where it counts.
What did I say about the alpha wolf syndrome?
There is nothing in this thread about what I hear or don't hear. In my day, I was a trained listener and that training came out of thousands of hours of specialized listening tests and access to technology to get me there. I got pretty good at it, able to hear artifacts few people could. But this is years later and this aging ear probably is not anywhere close to what it used to be. For sure, if I put ice in my glass of water, I can't hear its effect anywhere but on my tongue
. So if that makes me deaf relative to you, I happily grant you that advantage.
I hope this doesm`t not affect your willingness to be my best friend in certain areas. I do have a tremendous respect of you despite your misguided superiority complex.
Likewise other than the misguided part
. I don't think you are misguided at all. But simply different than me in your conclusions.