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Can Iphone Control Everything?

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
I need an automation system to control using iphone/ipod touch.
-drapes
-something to store my blu-ray and dvds in (like a hard drive, if you know a good one please tell)
-lighting (multi room)
-multizone audio
-thermostat (maybe?)

wireless would be best

i would like it all to be the same brand, like lutron or something like that..

having its own wireless controls would be nice too, and inwall controls too.


does anyone know anything about xlobby?
thanks
please give as much info as possible
post #2 of 32
Welcome to AVS, you'll find lots of good info here.

If you search through prior threads, you'll find that your questions have been addressed before. Perhaps not in your exact phrasing, but certainly in multiple locations.
post #3 of 32
I use an iPhone to control most everything in my house. Security, lights, Whole Home audio, HVAC. Just choose products that have iPhone support and you will be good.
post #4 of 32
V2 of this seems a "start" for such a project - http://www.smarthome.com/2412N/Smart...troller/p.aspx

I like you am thinking about such possibilties and love the iphone for its capabilities. The thing with this product is that it's browser-agnostic so should be future proof and not dependent upon an app. Am guessing the hardest part in working with it is configuring your router and setting it up.

Any experience/thoughts from anyone on this item? Keep in mind, this is V2.
post #5 of 32
Thread Starter 
i understand. but i dont want to have to go through multiple programs and 'apps' to control the system. i wanted to take care of everything in 'one screen' so to speak, what came across was multiple programs and systems that tackled multiple features, but nothing that did everything-> through the iphone.
post #6 of 32
Can iPhone control everything?

I guess so but I've been trying to get it to pick up my dogs poop and the best I can do is get it to send my wife an email. To no avail I still have to pick it up manually.

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Originally Posted by thedavidian View Post

i understand. but i dont want to have to go through multiple programs and 'apps' to control the system. i wanted to take care of everything in 'one screen' so to speak, what came across was multiple programs and systems that tackled multiple features, but nothing that did everything-> through the iphone.

to answer your question if you have a control system like crestron or any of the other "big dogs" then yes you can pretty much control whatever you want from your iPhone
post #7 of 32
It will take a lot of time and energy to implement your own control system, e.g. MainLobby, HomeSeer, CQC, J9, Cortexa, Premise.

It will cost a lot of money to have someone set you up with Crestron, AMX, Control4, HAI, etc.

Which do you want?
post #8 of 32
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Originally Posted by thedavidian View Post

i understand. but i dont want to have to go through multiple programs and 'apps' to control the system. i wanted to take care of everything in 'one screen' so to speak, what came across was multiple programs and systems that tackled multiple features, but nothing that did everything-> through the iphone.

Sorry I'm not following you. With the Smartlinc suggestion, seems like all you do is:

1) Click Safari
2) Bookmarks
3) Select your home
4) Start turning things on/off!

One application, browser agnostic, etc.
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by thedavidian View Post

I need an automation system to control using iphone/ipod touch.
-drapes
-something to store my blu-ray and dvds in (like a hard drive, if you know a good one please tell)
-lighting (multi room)
-multizone audio
-thermostat (maybe?)

wireless would be best

i would like it all to be the same brand, like lutron or something like that..

having its own wireless controls would be nice too, and inwall controls too.


does anyone know anything about xlobby?
thanks
please give as much info as possible

HAI.

Simplest and you have options. you have to do some reading cause there is a ton out there. also the amount of light, amount of music zones, the amount of zones for heat and cold play a factor. take HAI. . .one box only does 4 zones of heat and cold but the other does many more so if you have more than 4 you are already into a larger letup for HAI. you can control everything that is run over HAI on the iphone via a native HAI program for the iphone. everything programmed into the HAI controllers gets ported over to the iphone you control. this is all in it's simplest form explained of course.

jimi
post #10 of 32
I know the iphone can control sonos zone players. I was at my buddies house the other night and he showed me his set up; his desktop, iphone, two sonos zone players hooked; one for his living room and the other in his backyard.. he was controlling both with his iPhone, and it looked pretty simple. I found the zp 90 on the site for electronics expo and they had a coupon that took off $52. the coupon was JKL33X , not sure if it's still around..
post #11 of 32
I have fully automated house based on AMX. It was working really fine till my dog drop touchpanel from the table got it broken. It was too pricey to buy a new one as well as to repair the broken panel. So I started to consider different solutions which provide control the whole system via iPhone 3G. There were only few AMX compatible applications: CommandFusion, iLoveControl and iRidium. I tried iRidium for free as they had a special offer (not sure whether it's finished or not). It turned out to be a pretty good remote being almost 1by1 copy of the AMX panel. And I should say yes, it can control everything. At least it conrols all the subsystems in my house.
post #12 of 32
A simple and interesting point to add into this thread. Many people try to control media players with an iPod Touch or iPhone, but you can also use your iPhone directly as a media player.
Simple instructions: http://mymediaexperience.com/2009/09...ayer-for-hdtv/
post #13 of 32
Look into Savant's new Protege' system that should hit the market Nov.1. You can control anything from your iphone/ipod touch when your in your home or 500 miles away out of your home as long as you have 3g or internet access. Rosie can do the same thing now but with a higher price tag.
post #14 of 32
HomeLogic is one possibility.

http://www.homelogic.com/
post #15 of 32
HomeLogic is a very elegant solution. Fully integrated in one interface to a wide range of subsystems and vendors.

You can get a free demo if you just download the HomeLogic app from the iTunes App Store. It connects to a live demo at the company's HQ. Works great.
post #16 of 32
ECS allows one to control anything it supports via any web-enabled device
(incl the iPhone).
Regards,
Mark Gilmore
OmnipotenceSoftware.com
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by redatom View Post

HomeLogic is a very elegant solution. Fully integrated in one interface to a wide range of subsystems and vendors.

You can get a free demo if you just download the HomeLogic app from the iTunes App Store. It connects to a live demo at the company's HQ. Works great.

Do you by any chance have a HomeLogic system?
post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by fcwilt View Post

Do you by any chance have a HomeLogic system?

We're a dealer.
post #19 of 32
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Originally Posted by redatom View Post

We're a dealer.

I hope that business is good. I have had HomeLogic for four years now and am a very satisfied customer. I hope that the problems with economy has not hit them too hard.
post #20 of 32
Thedavidian - anything is possible. But the short answer is that the iPhone doesn't control anything. The iPhone can speak to different systems and control those systems. If you don't want more than one app on the phone to do all of this, then you need a robust automation/control system that will tie all your desired "sub-systems" together. This will provide you the "one app" control that you desire.

The real issue always comes down to $$$. As I started my post with - anything is possible - all it takes it $$$. Personally I use CQC which is a professional automation system that has historically been very DIY friendly. While there are a couple of iPhone solutions being worked on, there is nothing out of the box ready today (well you can RDP into the system using the iPhone, but I won't count that as a true CQC iPhone app).
post #21 of 32
i personally have gone with an HAI omnipro 2 controller for alarm and automation, tied in with a russound music controller and lutron homeworks 4 lighting system. although i am still in construction stage and not moved in yet, i too am looking for the most elegant iphone solution. HAI has 2 versions for the iphone which, if they work as advertised, will be more than enough for me. one is from HAI, but you need to run the program on a windows home server pc, while the other is an HAI app made from a guy who used to frequent these forums. it is availabe from itunes last i checked. i personally am going to try out how well this works, although the homelogic control looks nice as well and may look into it.
post #22 of 32
You could check out eKeypad Pro.

It can control an Elk M1, which I think will do most of what you are looking for. The app looks pretty slick.
post #23 of 32
There's over 100 iPhone-compatible applications / systems listed in The Ultimate List of Home Automation Software for iPhone and the list is growing pretty fast.
post #24 of 32
Just for the record, there is an iPhone client taking shape for CQC now. It's pretty far along. It uses our RIVA (remote interface viewer architcture) system, so it has almost complete functionality, i.e. any interfaces you create for CQC it can display. There are just a couple types of screen widgets it can't support.
post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey View Post

Just for the record, there is an iPhone client taking shape for CQC now.

Hey Dean,

Have you considered adding support for the Android platform?

With phones being offered from Verizon/sprint/tmobile already or by the end of the year, it seems poised to capture a good portion of the market.
post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by fcwilt View Post

HomeLogic is one possibility.

http://www.homelogic.com/

The only issue i see on the homelogic front is that the "support" list is pretty weak, particularly with respect to the compatible displays.
post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by lucifers_ghost View Post

The only issue i see on the homelogic front is that the "support" list is pretty weak, particularly with respect to the compatible displays.

For anything that will perform with one-way control (from HomeLogic to the device) you can roll your own "device driver", using IR or RS232 control. Displays fall into this category. And within certain limitations an RS232 device can also communicate back to HomeLogic.

HomeLogic is also very good about getting a driver out quickly if they are provided with the piece of hardware (and documentation) you want supported.

Another approach I have taken (for devices where two-way communication is needed) is to utilize a programmable device with serial ports (something like http://www.wdlsystems.com/modperl/vi...&aisle_id=1061) and write a little program that translates between a device that HomeLogic does support to the device I needed connected.

For instance HomeLogic supports an older Denon DVD player that has very nearly the identical RS232 protocol as one of the newer Denon DVD players, which I needed to connect. It was very simple to write the small program that made the newer device look to HomeLogic like the older device.

And when HomeLogic finishes the driver for the newer device I can pull the little computer out of the serial link.
post #28 of 32
This thread is a bit old but its one of the newest homelogic threads so....

Homelogic has a new version ready to release. The interface is awesome and the capabilities have expanded greatly. We are going to start to see new product released every couple months or so over the course of this year. New touchpanels, remotes, software, and more.



If you are interested in seeing a live demo version shoot me an email at casey@advanceddigitalhomes.com OR if you are local to San Diego give me a call and I will bring our system to your home to play with first hand.

Thanks,

Casey
619-559-1172
http://www.advanceddigitalhomes.com
post #29 of 32
Home logic looks like a pre-construction solution. What is the better post-construction solution?
post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by mhdiab View Post

Home logic looks like a pre-construction solution. What is the better post-construction solution?

If you cant do pre-wired inwall stuff you can always control your home from a TV, iphone/itouch, or any PC.. or tablet PC.

So the system is retrofitable, I have even used wireless bridges and access points to send the ip information to remotely located pool equipment and get full control of it.
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