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post #31 of 90
tested with both watchmen and wanted

Xeveniah Darkwind
post #32 of 90
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

if it's connecting properly, i can't see why it will not access bd live features. hate to say call into denon, but call into denon. did you try initializing the firmware after downloading it?

Yes I did try initializing all features on the unit includeing the bd memory storage bit.

Xeveniah Darkwind
post #33 of 90
For BD-Live functionality... You are required to purchase a SD or SDHC card... otherwise BD-Live will not work... Just got off the phone with tech support.

Xeveniah Darkwind
post #34 of 90
Hello All,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I have the DBP-1610 I just got along with the Denon AVR-3310.

I've only tried one movie so far, the new Star-Trek movie, and was able to sign up for the BD-Live content, but the only content available was RSS feeds from the NASA website. When I tried to view them, I wasn't able to. I received a "could not connect" message. I do have an SD card inserted.

Otherwise everything seems to be working OK. One quirk I have run into is that the player will not get a DHCP address from my network, while the AVR-3310 sitting right next to it on the same switch gets an IP address just fine.

If I enter static IP information, I can connect and have received firmware updates successfully.

Anyone else have this issue?
post #35 of 90
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Per the spec sheets, the 1610 has the same burr browns converting for its two channel outputs. I connected it to my 906 in pure mode and listened to a few cds - overall, I think most folks would be very happy with the 1610 as a cd player. I think i still give a very slight edge to the wolfsons of the pioneer 51 for most music, but the burr browns in the 1610/2010 are probably the closest and a very close second for music. And I know ymmv...describing audio is my least favorite - too damn subjective.

Probably a dumb question, but Denon's website is horrible on specs. The 1610 will internally decode up to 7.1 TrueHD/DTS-MA and output it via 2-channel analog?

Also, I did read your comparison on DVD's, between the 1610 and the 2010. I feel I have a pretty good idea what to expect from the 1610, but does the 1610 have a similar picture to any other players you've tested? Real world that is, I don't really care about test material. I am used to ABT2010, Pioneer 51 and a Reon equipped player, so I need something atleast decent.

What kind of picture controls does this unit have and what kind of disc info will it show? Bitrate meters, audio bit depth, etc...? If it has Mosquito NR, does it work well?

Thank you in advance.

EDIT: One major thing I forgot. Will the 1610 handle PAL?? Either Source Direct or process it?
post #36 of 90
I have a 1610 and so far (for Blu ray) the image has been right on with all the other players I have looked at. I am planning to get the 4010 next week so I will compare them as well. Sure the DVD up conversion is not as strong as a few other players I have looked at but it is not bad. I have their 4810 receiver so I can let it do the heavy lifting. The 1610 around $300 is not a bad player by any means... Especially if you have a Denon receiver already...
post #37 of 90
"the DVD up conversion is not as strong as a few other players I have looked"
can you help of which models?, I'm interested to buy this blu ray player, I expect a good sound for play cd an a good upconversion, own a denon avr 2808 conected to a 50 in plasma LG 720p

Thanks
post #38 of 90
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Originally Posted by audiofilo View Post

"the DVD up conversion is not as strong as a few other players I have looked"
can you help of which models?, I'm interested to buy this blu ray player, I expect a good sound for play cd an a good upconversion, own a denon avr 2808 conected to a 50 in plasma LG 720p

Thanks

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post #39 of 90
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Originally Posted by audiofilo View Post

"the DVD up conversion is not as strong as a few other players I have looked"
can you help of which models?, I'm interested to buy this blu ray player, I expect a good sound for play cd an a good upconversion, own a denon avr 2808 conected to a 50 in plasma LG 720p

Thanks

For your set up I would think it would do just fine. Especially since matching your Denon receiver would look good. You could opt for the pioneer 320 but the differences would be subtle with real time viewing. I have the 1610 playing Inglorious Basterds now and it looks terrific.
post #40 of 90
Thanks for the info joerod and winston, I read the coparison the difference between the pio 320 (9) and the denon 1610 (7) in DVD is very noticeable?, in this moment I own a denon 1710, going for my first blu ray player
post #41 of 90
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Originally Posted by audiofilo View Post

Thanks for the info joerod and winston, I read the coparison the difference between the pio 320 (9) and the denon 1610 (7) in DVD is very noticeable?, in this moment I own a denon 1710, going for my first blu ray player

both have source direct features and are good pairs for either a strong display or video processor externally. for dvd upscaled to 1080p, i prefer the pioneer 320 to the denon 1610. The denon is a very good transport though.
post #42 of 90
Thanks winston
post #43 of 90
Can someone please confirm the 1610 will play PAL, for me? I have a few Euro Blurays that either have PAL trailers or the whole movie is 1080i50.

Thanks.
post #44 of 90
Ive had the 1610 for about 4 months now and has been great up to now... suddenly i cant seem to get any sound out of my speakers while watching cable tv under sat/cbl function. Sound still works great out of dvd funtion and tuner. Its not the cable box cuz i bypassed the 1610 and hooked hdmi cable right to the tv from the cable box and sound def comes out.

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks, andrew
post #45 of 90
I recently set up my home theater with the following- Panasonic 50" G15, Denon 1910 receiver, Klipsch 52 series speakers and a Denon 1610 Blu-Ray.. My question is this- By running HDMI from the Blu-Ray to the receiver, am I getting a better or a worse picture from a DVD than if I ran component? It is my understanding that HDMI bypasses the upscaling? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff and would love any help I could get....

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post #46 of 90
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Originally Posted by getitfixed View Post

I recently set up my home theater with the following- Panasonic 50" G15, Denon 1910 receiver, Klipsch 52 series speakers and a Denon 1610 Blu-Ray.. My question is this- By running HDMI from the Blu-Ray to the receiver, am I getting a better or a worse picture from a DVD than if I ran component? It is my understanding that HDMI bypasses the upscaling? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff and would love any help I could get....

The reverse is true: Most SD DVDs will not be upscaled with component connections.

HDMI is the optimal connection scheme for your system, BD->AVR and AVR->TV.
post #47 of 90
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Originally Posted by Blacklac View Post

Can someone please confirm the 1610 will play PAL, for me? I have a few Euro Blurays that either have PAL trailers or the whole movie is 1080i50.

Thanks.

Bump, someone has to have a PAL disc.
post #48 of 90
Please help, how about the delay time of change of layer in DVD vs the Pioneer 320
post #49 of 90
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spckandy View Post

Ive had the 1610 for about 4 months now and has been great up to now... suddenly i cant seem to get any sound out of my speakers while watching cable tv under sat/cbl function. Sound still works great out of dvd funtion and tuner. Its not the cable box cuz i bypassed the 1610 and hooked hdmi cable right to the tv from the cable box and sound def comes out.

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks, andrew

andrew, got the wrong forum here mate.
post #50 of 90
So i decided to jump on this player after a nice deal from Amazon, over the weekend. Is the only way to update firmware over ethernet? SD Card needs to be inserted for this also?
post #51 of 90
I'm curious to what is available as far as picture setting adjusments that can be made within the player. Some players are very limited in that regard. As a reference, the LG BD390 and Pioneer 320 however are loaded with options.

I really haven't seen the price drop all that much to tell the truth with this player except with an occasional sale here and there. Denon really isn't readily available as some other players are at B&M stores and the price I'm sure also keeps this player "trapped" on shelves.
post #52 of 90
Well, I got my 1610 yesterday. I have to say, this UI sucks and there are much fewer picture controls than my Pioneer 51. Right now, I definitely prefer my Pioneer. However, this player is faster and the disc tray open/close is much quieter. Right away, I updated from 1.006 to 1.008. NO SD CARD NEEDED. I never put one in the player. So, the main reason I got this player is that it has Source Direct, since I have a VP. I moved my Pioneer in the bedroom cause I have a 2 channel analog setup in there and the Pioneer has awesome analog audio. I'm glad to report the Denon plays PAL just fine. However, I wish it were SD DVD region free, like my Pioneer is (remote hack). I didn't even bother with upconversion, since I use Source Direct to my DVDO Edge. That's why I got the 1610 over the 2010. Oh, and the "Pure Direct" mode is neat, you can turn off the front player display or you video section all together. I just turn the front display off.

To check firmware - 1,2,3,4,display - somewhat quickly. Read that in the 2010 thread...

All in all, it's a nice player. I do prefer my Pioneer 51 over it, but for the price I got it, I am happy. It's nice to have matching AVR and BD player now.

Denon - PLEASE add some more disc info to the Display screen! Wow...
post #53 of 90
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Originally Posted by Blacklac View Post

Well, I got my 1610 yesterday. I have to say, this UI sucks and there are much fewer picture controls than my Pioneer 51. Right now, I definitely prefer my Pioneer. However, this player is faster and the disc tray open/close is much quieter. Right away, I updated from 1.006 to 1.008. NO SD CARD NEEDED. I never put one in the player. So, the main reason I got this player is that it has Source Direct, since I have a VP. I moved my Pioneer in the bedroom cause I have a 2 channel analog setup in there and the Pioneer has awesome analog audio. I'm glad to report the Denon plays PAL just fine. However, I wish it were SD DVD region free, like my Pioneer is (remote hack). I didn't even bother with upconversion, since I use Source Direct to my DVDO Edge. That's why I got the 1610 over the 2010. Oh, and the "Pure Direct" mode is neat, you can turn off the front player display or you video section all together. I just turn the front display off.

To check firmware - 1,2,3,4,display - somewhat quickly. Read that in the 2010 thread...

All in all, it's a nice player. I do prefer my Pioneer 51 over it, but for the price I got it, I am happy. It's nice to have matching AVR and BD player now.

Denon - PLEASE add some more disc info to the Display screen! Wow...

I asked above what picture setting adjustments this player had and no one responded.

What is misssing or what do you feel you need to get better PQ than the Pioneer 51? The 2010CI is basically the same as the 1610 for PQ and while close, the PQ is just as good as the Pioneer 320 if not better. The 1610 loses the upconversion quality of the 2010CI though but you said you don't care about that.
post #54 of 90
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Originally Posted by robertc88 View Post

I asked above what picture setting adjustments this player had and no one responded.

What is misssing or what do you feel you need to get better PQ than the Pioneer 51? The 2010CI is basically the same as the 1610 for PQ and while close, the PQ is just as good as the Pioneer 320 if not better. The 1610 loses the upconversion quality of the 2010CI though but you said you don't care about that.

I think in his case the whole point was to not make ANY changes to the video output in the player because he's using external video processing...
post #55 of 90
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins View Post

I think in his case the whole point was to not make ANY changes to the video output in the player because he's using external video processing...

I realize that but he is the one who brought up the picture adjustment settings. I don't think he feels the PQ is as good so I was looking towards getting some feedback on what needed improvement.

I don't know the differences between the two players rgearding picture adjustments per se but I'd still like to know what the 1610 offers with respect to that.
post #56 of 90
Well, the Pioneer has 3 types of Noise Reduction. I did not see any on the Denon, but perhaps because I was using a Bluray. They may have appeared if I had tried an SD DVD. I did read the 2010 has some type of NR so I would think the 1610 would also.

I shouldn't have some "much more". That was incorrect. The Pioneer has white level, black level, gamma, fine detail, Hue, MNR, YNR, CNR and a selectable deinterlacing mode. Plus the preset modes Pioneer made. Denon has contrast, brightness, sharpness gamma, color, black level and NR. So I guess they are actually pretty close. The Pioneer's do offer like 1 more colorspace option. Pioneer allows RBG, 4:4:4 and 4:2:2. The Denon only RBG and 4:4:4. They both offer upconversion to 36bit color.

I don't think the Denon has inferior PQ, I did not do any real testing though. Although I never tested upconversion either, I assume Pioneer would be slightly better. I just think the Pioneer has a few more tweaks that can be made, plus the much better GUI, slightly better DAC's (multichannel on the Pioneer). I am happy with the Denon. All I needed was Source Direct video output and I like that it matches my AVR on my rack. Having already owned the Pioneer 51, I didn't want the 320, even though I do now think I would refer the 320 over this 1610.
post #57 of 90
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by robertc88 View Post

I realize that but he is the one who brought up the picture adjustment settings. I don't think he feels the PQ is as good so I was looking towards getting some feedback on what needed improvement.

I don't know the differences between the two players rgearding picture adjustments per se but I'd still like to know what the 1610 offers with respect to that.

I own both and would say the two are identical on blu ray. I would give the nod to the pioneer on dvd. Pioneer allows more tweaking for bd, denon is very limited. gui on denon is the same old limited funai gui they have last year. it works, but is not as smart as pioneer's layout. two channel audio is very good on both. denon is quicker to eject from powered off by about four to five seconds, but disc load times are pretty comparable.
post #58 of 90
Thanks for the feedback, folks.

The Denon is pretty good player (if there is no pause while watching that is) BUT like I said it is trapped because of its price and one gets much more bang for the buck with others at this point. Heck even some of these network players (even if you don't have a need for that specifically) include analog outs and some picture adjustments so therefore may be much more attractive to Joe/Jane at this point IMHO because of their price.
post #59 of 90
long time lurker first time poster.this is my first blu-ray player. got this player with an avr-1910,and updated the firmware immediatly. now i`m new to BR but not to home theater so take that FWIW.i`ve watched about 15 br-discs and all works great untill saw 6. movie has a loading screen that never fully finishes, and then begins to play the previews on approx 25% of the screen, like peeking trhough a window. i`ve been through 2 discs (netflix) and am at a loss. any help would be greatly appreciated.
bill
post #60 of 90
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lailer75 View Post

long time lurker first time poster.this is my first blu-ray player. got this player with an avr-1910,and updated the firmware immediatly. now i`m new to BR but not to home theater so take that FWIW.i`ve watched about 15 br-discs and all works great untill saw 6. movie has a loading screen that never fully finishes, and then begins to play the previews on approx 25% of the screen, like peeking trhough a window. i`ve been through 2 discs (netflix) and am at a loss. any help would be greatly appreciated.
bill

bill, try putting an sd card in. this has been an issue with lionsgate films recently.
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