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post #2611 of 2668
2/10/13 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by hurttman View Post

My experience at this point is not good. I hooked up complete new system today and bought the 900 to control it. I had a new wall unit built and installed and the cabinet doors are 5/8" thick solid wood and with my remote 10' away it doesn't operate the components. Done messing with it tonight. Hopefully I am missing something.
Are you using the ir blasters?
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post #2612 of 2668
2/11/13 at 7:23am
Specific question for DTV HD-DVR users (HR20)...

My 890 died (loved it!) and got a 900...one issue re: directv HD-dvr (HR20) "list" command. On the 890 it was a hard button, not on the 900. You have to go to Devices and scroll a page to find and execute "List" which is redious as this a highly used command (to access all of your recorded programs).

No problem, right? Just go and create a "custom" command in the device menu like I did for other things in the 890...unfortunately the "list" command in the drop down menu is not the same as "List" in the Device menu as it just doesn't work! I tried changing the + (Plus) key (bottom left on remote) and the "Green" key...nothing works....

Has anyone created the List command using the Custom process? HELP!!!!!

Perilous
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post #2613 of 2668
2/11/13 at 7:24am
"tedious" not "redious"
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post #2614 of 2668
2/11/13 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by Pain Infliction View Post

Bad reviews!? Wow I am surprised by that! I have no issues what so ever. Let me see if I can answer all of your questions..

It is a regular cat5 cable but not the connectors. There are terminals that you screw the wires into on both parts. The cat5 cable is long just in case you have it in the other room or the other side if the room because it is just an IR repeater system.

You do have to use the MS220 because that is the IR receiver. What I do is have the Logitec transmitter flash right into the Niles IR receiver (ms220). It is out of the way and you can see either of them. I give them about 10" distance between the both of them. I know that that adds something else in the chain to mess up, but really, I have no issues because they never get touched or moved around. This is the proble with RF....it is cool because you can use it anywhere in your house but all of your AV compenents are IR so there will be some type of flasher somewhere. You only need the large transmitter/receiver from logitec. The other flashers you can unplug and store them somewhere.

You will need the complete kit so the one link you posted for 79 bux is just part of it.

I hope this helps and let me know if you need anything else or pictures or whatever.

 

Ok, I just haven't had time lately to deal with this issue but having to get out of my chair to go 3' closer to the cabinet is driving me crazy.  I'm going to experiment soon with moving the main IR blaster outside of my metal AV rack and using a system "similar" to yours to pickup the IR signal and distribute to each device.  I really don't understand how the IR jacks on some devices work?  It seems as though they are there to prevent having to use an IR emitter with a universal remote or other control system?!  Could I use this repeater system together with the Harmony 900 main blaster to distribute the IR signal?  What if I used a 3.5mm to 3.5mm mono/IR cable instead of the eyes to plug into devices with a 3.5mm IR port?  I noticed hurttman is doing this with his JVC projector and has an issue with the power command but if everything else is working correctly this seems to be a better route than using ir emitters on every device?  Also, I suppose I would only use the Harmony emitters if I needed extras for additional devices; otherwise, nothing would plug into the main blaster and I would set every device to receive commands from the main blaster (as I've recently assigned devices and this seems to help but it's still not foolproof).  Then I just set the IR receiver of the monoprice repeater system in view of the Harmony blaster and this "should" mimic what you have with your system?  This seems too good to be true given the major price difference so that's why I'm asking...any thoughts?

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post #2615 of 2668
2/11/13 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by hurttman View Post

My experience at this point is not good. I hooked up complete new system today and bought the 900 to control it. I had a new wall unit built and installed and the cabinet doors are 5/8" thick solid wood and with my remote 10' away it doesn't operate the components. Done messing with it tonight. Hopefully I am missing something.
Did you assign the devices to the Blaster that are in the cabinet? This is done on the remote, by selecting Options, RF System Settings, Device Assignment.
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post #2616 of 2668
2/11/13 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by perilous View Post

Specific question for DTV HD-DVR users (HR20)...

My 890 died (loved it!) and got a 900...one issue re: directv HD-dvr (HR20) "list" command. On the 890 it was a hard button, not on the 900. You have to go to Devices and scroll a page to find and execute "List" which is redious as this a highly used command (to access all of your recorded programs).

No problem, right? Just go and create a "custom" command in the device menu like I did for other things in the 890...unfortunately the "list" command in the drop down menu is not the same as "List" in the Device menu as it just doesn't work! I tried changing the + (Plus) key (bottom left on remote) and the "Green" key...nothing works....

Has anyone created the List command using the Custom process? HELP!!!!!

Perilous

The "list" button should be on the touch screen in the top right when you are on the "watch" tv activity.
Edited by Pain Infliction - 2/11/13 at 4:09pm
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post #2617 of 2668
2/11/13 at 4:08pm
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Ok, I just haven't had time lately to deal with this issue but having to get out of my chair to go 3' closer to the cabinet is driving me crazy.  I'm going to experiment soon with moving the main IR blaster outside of my metal AV rack and using a system "similar" to yours to pickup the IR signal and distribute to each device.  I really don't understand how the IR jacks on some devices work?  It seems as though they are there to prevent having to use an IR emitter with a universal remote or other control system?!  Could I use this repeater system together with the Harmony 900 main blaster to distribute the IR signal?  What if I used a 3.5mm to 3.5mm mono/IR cable instead of the eyes to plug into devices with a 3.5mm IR port?  I noticed hurttman is doing this with his JVC projector and has an issue with the power command but if everything else is working correctly this seems to be a better route than using ir emitters on every device?  Also, I suppose I would only use the Harmony emitters if I needed extras for additional devices; otherwise, nothing would plug into the main blaster and I would set every device to receive commands from the main blaster (as I've recently assigned devices and this seems to help but it's still not foolproof).  Then I just set the IR receiver of the monoprice repeater system in view of the Harmony blaster and this "should" mimic what you have with your system?  This seems too good to be true given the major price difference so that's why I'm asking...any thoughts?
I have no experience with using 3.5mm cables for IR so i can not comment on that. I have no experience with the monoprice ir repeater but it should do the same thing as the niles system. You are correct about just putting in line of sight with the logitec and then putting the ir flashers on each device. There will not be anything plugged into the logitec device. it is that simple. Also, if you need more flashers than what the system comes with you can buy the flashers that have dual flashers on one cable. I might recall seeing a triple flasher on one cable but not for sure. there are also splitters as well so you will not need those bulky flashers from logitec.
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post #2618 of 2668
2/14/13 at 11:15am
I ditched my RF 900 setup in preference to 3.5mm IR using products from Keene Electronics...and must say how superb it works with greatly enhanced reception akin to a working RF setup which i tbought the 900 should have delivered....
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post #2619 of 2668
2/24/13 at 3:00pm
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Awesome! Glad that worked out for you. Another tip assuming your projector is IR and the rest of the components are run through RF you should change the power on and power off order and make the projector first on both. This way when powering on or off you only have to point the remote in the direction of the projector or the screen in my case and then set the remote down to let it do the rest of the work. Cheers!

 

Ok, I've searched everywhere and I can't figure out how to change the order of devices powering up and powering down?!  Also, I'm still hit or miss on shutting down the projector (with IR).  I'm wondering if I need to change the delay between commands as the second power toggle never seems to work?!

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post #2620 of 2668
2/25/13 at 5:27am
From the web interface: Activities, Review the Order in which devices are turned on.

From the software: Activities, Settings, Review the Order in which devices are turned on.

The sequence of power off matches the the power on sequence.
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post #2621 of 2668
3/2/13 at 7:13am
Sorry BDPLayer about posting in the other thread...

Bought a 900 for my bedroom and a 300 for my living room (love the simplicity of the 300 and having all hard buttons...). The 900 is giving me a few problems.

I got all my model numbers and put them in for my 900. It's currently having Bedroom as zone 2 and living room as zone 1.

is there a way for me to have it do a one-click to automatically do "Setup" and switch speakers setup to "BI-AMP", etc?

For the cable box, it's listed under as XFinity PVR for model #PX001ANM. Is it actually PVR?
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post #2622 of 2668
3/3/13 at 5:23am
I have read and reread your posts here and in the Denon thread, and it is not clear what you are trying to do. Information gathered:
- You have two remotes, 300 and 900
- You have speakers in your living room (zone 1) and bedroom (zone 2)
- You have a cable box
- You have a Denon AVR

Questions:
1. Where is the cable box located and how is it connected to the AVR?
2. What model Denon AVR do you have and where is it located?
3. Do you have any TV's, where are they located, and how are they connected to the AVR or cable box?
4. Are you trying to control the AVR and cable box with the 300?
5. Are you also trying to control the same AVR and cable box with the 900?
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post #2623 of 2668
3/7/13 at 2:43pm
I was trying to setup/configure Harmony 900 last night and attempted to install the accompanied CD to my laptop. At one point after creating account, got an alert message that the app might not be compatible with my laptop Operating System. So I looked up and got surprised to see that the CD is not mentioning Windows 7 O/S as a compatible system! Even my older Harmony 880 CD used to work just fine with my O/S Windows 7. How can Logitech go backward? Got very confused. However, I installed the CD anyway ingnoring the warning. But while tried to make the 900 learn the IR signal from my other existing TV or DVD remotes, the processed couldn't be completed. Tried on another computer where I have Windows XP and it just worked fine.
Is anyone finding the same issue? If yes, how to resolve this without changing my O/S system of the laptop? I don't find it amusing to change the computer O/S to install a CD after buying a brand new latest Harmony Remote!
Any advice, insight would be appreciated.
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post #2624 of 2668
3/7/13 at 3:45pm
^^^
Logitech has gone backwards many times, so this is not unusual. However, you can download and install the latest version for Windows 7 from here:

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/harmony-900

I would uninstall the old version first.

The 900 may be new to you, but that model is almost 4 years old and has been discontinued. Since the 900 came out before Windows 7 did, it's possible the CD included with many of them has an old version of the software incompatible with Windows 7. These days it's usually best to ignore any software CD that comes in the package and go straight to the manufacturer's website for the latest version.

Good luck
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post #2625 of 2668
3/7/13 at 9:17pm
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^^^
Logitech has gone backwards many times, so this is not unusual. However, you can download and install the latest version for Windows 7 from here:

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/harmony-900

I would uninstall the old version first.

The 900 may be new to you, but that model is almost 4 years old and has been discontinued. Since the 900 came out before Windows 7 did, it's possible the CD included with many of them has an old version of the software incompatible with Windows 7. These days it's usually best to ignore any software CD that comes in the package and go straight to the manufacturer's website for the latest version.

Good luck

Thanks a lot mdavej! I chased the alert message and went to the Logitech support site. Then downloaded the 7.7.0 version. The system actually queried if I want to remove the old version and I did removed the older version of the CD. Installed the newer one, tested and got it working smoothly. Happy!!!!
Thanks again!
Prosoft7
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post #2626 of 2668
3/16/13 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by BPlayer View Post

From the web interface: Activities, Review the Order in which devices are turned on.

From the software: Activities, Settings, Review the Order in which devices are turned on.

The sequence of power off matches the the power on sequence.

 

Thanks, I finally got around to changing this.  Hopefully, it will fix my power off issues with my Sony VPL-HW50ES.  I added the power toggle twice to the power off sequence but it wasn't working.  If I need to change how quickly the two power off toggles are sequenced, is that the inter-key delay?

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post #2627 of 2668
3/16/13 at 7:50pm
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Thanks, I finally got around to changing this.  Hopefully, it will fix my power off issues with my Sony VPL-HW50ES.  I added the power toggle twice to the power off sequence but it wasn't working.  If I need to change how quickly the two power off toggles are sequenced, is that the inter-key delay?
I was having a shut down problem with my JVC too. I use multiple "power off" command to fix my problem. I changed it to a total of 4 "power off" command and it's been working fine now. Reason, I'm suspecting, is when it sent the "power off" command to the projector, then other device like AVR/bluray player, it seems like the projector will got freeze up (blank screen) when the input signal is gone, and during that time, it seems like it won't accept or process anymore command.
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post #2628 of 2668
3/17/13 at 6:42am
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Thanks, I finally got around to changing this.  Hopefully, it will fix my power off issues with my Sony VPL-HW50ES.  I added the power toggle twice to the power off sequence but it wasn't working.  If I need to change how quickly the two power off toggles are sequenced, is that the inter-key delay?
I was having a shut down problem with my JVC too. I use multiple "power off" command to fix my problem. I changed it to a total of 4 "power off" command and it's been working fine now. Reason, I'm suspecting, is when it sent the "power off" command to the projector, then other device like AVR/bluray player, it seems like the projector will got freeze up (blank screen) when the input signal is gone, and during that time, it seems like it won't accept or process anymore command.

 

I'll give that a try as well since changing the shutdown order didn't work.

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post #2629 of 2668
3/18/13 at 5:12pm
I am having a problem when I press the watch TV button and everything comes on fine. I have had the remote for a week and now when I press it everything comes on but my receiver turns off after about 5 to 10seconds. No clue I'm tired of pressing the help button which does fix it, until I turn it off and do it again. Have tried everything from powering it on by hand, the " devices" button. Nothing. Thanks for your help.
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post #2630 of 2668
3/18/13 at 6:31pm
You likely have hdmi control turned on in TV. Without using the Harmony remote if you turn on the TV directly it will automatically turn on the AVR. Find the setting in the TV setup and turn it off as it conflicts with the Harmony remotes state tracking and control.
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post #2631 of 2668
3/19/13 at 12:10pm
I am encountering a problem while configuring my Harmony for Integra 80.2. Using the Integra remote to make the Harmony learn the commands. But couldn't find any equivant command for "Mode" and "Receiver" button of Integra remote in my new harmony. Created a customized button, but can not make it learn while holding the Integra remote behind the Harmony (I am, of course, using the Logitech app loaded on my laptop).
Now, since the learning of Receiver failed, as a result, I can't make the remote learn all the listening modes - such as Movie, Music or THX. As we all know, Movie is a button that gives us different preset euilizer setting everytime we press it.
Now, I am finding Harmony almost useless for the Integra!
Anyone has any experience similar to this? Will appreciate sharing or help or hint.
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post #2632 of 2668
3/19/13 at 12:21pm
The Mode and Receiver buttons on the original remote are not ir commands but functions that change the operation of buttons on the remote. Learn the commands that are selected after pressing Mode.

Alternatively, you need to find the Pronto Hex Codes for the Integra and import them into the Harmony (not a standard process and required some additional software).
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post #2633 of 2668
3/19/13 at 12:50pm
Thanks BPlayer! Will try the first option once back to home. The 2nd alternate is possibly a bit a challenging. Hence, will think about it later, if can't help at all.
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post #2634 of 2668
4/4/13 at 12:57pm
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Thanks, I finally got around to changing this.  Hopefully, it will fix my power off issues with my Sony VPL-HW50ES.  I added the power toggle twice to the power off sequence but it wasn't working.  If I need to change how quickly the two power off toggles are sequenced, is that the inter-key delay?
I was having a shut down problem with my JVC too. I use multiple "power off" command to fix my problem. I changed it to a total of 4 "power off" command and it's been working fine now. Reason, I'm suspecting, is when it sent the "power off" command to the projector, then other device like AVR/bluray player, it seems like the projector will got freeze up (blank screen) when the input signal is gone, and during that time, it seems like it won't accept or process anymore command.

 

I'll give that a try as well since changing the shutdown order didn't work.

 

Well, I finally got around to repositioning my blaster outside of my AV rack as well as adding a couple more "power toggle" commands to my projector shutdown and I'm happy to report that everything is FINALLY working as designed.  Thanks to all for the help!

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post #2635 of 2668
4/9/13 at 12:51am
Thinking of getting the 900 but I have some concerns. Read through 10 pages of this thread before my eyes almost caught on fire and decided to just ask away.

With the 900 devoid of any sequences longer than 5, will this hinder me from controlling my dimmable lights and motorized masking curtains?

I've read the 890 does support sequencing; if so will it be able to control http://www.smarthome.com/2477D/SwitchLinc-INSTEON-Remote-Control-Dimmer-Dual-Band-White/p.aspx

Will it be able to sync and control newer A/V equipment?
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post #2636 of 2668
4/9/13 at 5:05am
The correct statement is "With the 900 devoid of sequences longer than 0". Nada, no sequences on this remote". Having said that it may be possible to learn two maybe three commands to one button with trial and error. If you need multiple commands sent as part of an activity then sequences are important, otherwise they are not necessary.

Do some research on on IR Remote controlling an X10 device.

As long as newer A/V equipment has ir codes they can be controlled. The the devices are not in the database the commands can be "learned" from the original remote.
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post #2637 of 2668
4/9/13 at 7:06am
So, for example, I wanted the main lights to turn off when the projector and other equipment come on and to leave certain other lights on.....
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post #2638 of 2668
4/9/13 at 2:25pm
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So, for example, I wanted the main lights to turn off when the projector and other equipment come on and to leave certain other lights on.....
Depends on when and how you intend to trigger those events. If they can run as part of an activity, say "Watch Projector", then it's no problem. You can easily add the necessary light commands. If you want it to happen when you press play or pause, on the other hand, then it is possible on an 890 and not possible on a 900.

BTW, if you decide to use an IR543 for your IR interface to Insteon, I have one for sale. PM me if you are interested.
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post #2639 of 2668
4/9/13 at 3:16pm
Ok thanks for that. See I would like one button to turn everything on, and one button to play the projector and dim the lights so it sounds like the 900 cannot do this. So now i'm trying to decide between the Harmony 890 and URC R40. Any feedback on those models?

I would get this: http://www.smarthome.com/2411R/IRLinc-Receiver-IR-to-INSTEON-Converter/p.aspx for the dimmable lights and outlets. But my A/V equipment will be inside a cabinet so I would have to get an RF module correct?

I also have 2 fish tanks in the wall that are plugged in on the adjacent room. Trying to figure out the best way to control those through the wall and everything I'll need for that as my electrician is waiting on me so he can get my wiring done in my HT...any tips would be much appreciated.
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post #2640 of 2668
4/10/13 at 6:10am
There are lots of traps to fall into with a one button plan of one button to play a device DVD (not projector) and dim the lights, e.g.,
- what happens when the stop button is pressed
- do the lights have discrete code for dim and raise or is a toggle. If toggle, then pressing play a second time will raise the lights
- what happens when you switch activities if the DVD was already playing (lights stay dimmed)
- what happens when you turn off the system (lights should be turned on)

This all comes down to the light controller having discrete codes (and the IRLinc appears to support this), and the remote being able to issue multiple commands for one key press. If all you required commands are a two-step then it should be possible to "learn" these to the 900.

Yes, you will need an RF base to control devices in a cabinet.

The IRLinc should be able to manage the fish tanks. You would need to define soft buttons within each Activity to send control commands or go to device mode to send the commands then return to the Activity.

The IRLinc would be defined as a device with multiple commands for each outlet that it controls, or you could define each outlet as a separate device.
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