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post #2551 of 5041
Looks like I have the same BD Drive:
Device Manager is reporting it as PLDS DVDRWBD DS-4E1S ATA Device

The hardware ID in the details tab looks to be reoprting Firmware 12 here as well. Thanks for the link to 14 - though i haven't noticed the Blu-Ray issues yet. I've only tried 1, though - we've been watching regular dvd's mostly
post #2552 of 5041
Well, I demanded another drive so supposedly I will get one. That along with the hard drive as I'm having issues with that as well - bsods during some file transfers - kernal data inpage error.

Funny how just in one week things went south. Hopefully the replacements that come in will address all issues I'm having.
post #2553 of 5041
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

No reason to not set up Media Browser as it is independent of WHS. I have all my media saved on my WHS machine and use MediaBrowser on my HTPCs. Here is my writeup on setting up MediaBrowser:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2009...1-3-0-phoenix/

Keep in mind that MediaBrowser will eventually be going to a paid model, possibly with the next release due out on 20-Dec. There has been no official confirmation of the pricing structure, and honestly if they were planning on going the paid way with the upcoming release they would have given advanced notice.

Where did you hear it was going to a pay model? I haven't run into that bit of news anywhere on greenbutton, mediabrower or hack7mc
post #2554 of 5041
Has anyone opened their system yet? I'm curious to know how tight things are considering they used a 3.5 inch drive instead of 2.5 inch. I would think switching to a laptop drive will help immensely with heat. Then again, I'm not sure how easy it would be to switch it to 2.5 inch without using brackets to keep it in place.
post #2555 of 5041
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Originally Posted by andyd2k View Post

Well, I demanded another drive so supposedly I will get one. That along with the hard drive as I'm having issues with that as well - bsods during some file transfers - kernal data inpage error.

Funny how just in one week things went south. Hopefully the replacements that come in will address all issues I'm having.

What all have you done over the past week? Have you loaded any s/w, etc?

Strange how the system would go from stable to unstable in a weeks time with no changes in the s/w.
post #2556 of 5041
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Originally Posted by andyd2k View Post

Has anyone opened their system yet? I'm curious to know how tight things are considering they used a 3.5 inch drive instead of 2.5 inch. I would think switching to a laptop drive will help immensely with heat. Then again, I'm not sure how easy it would be to switch it to 2.5 inch without using brackets to keep it in place.

It's tight, but not unreasonably so. Dell made this very modular so customers could swap things out themselves.

I was thinking about going to a WD Green drive instead of the blue one in there now.

It should run a little cooler, though probably not a lot cooler.
post #2557 of 5041
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

What all have you done over the past week? Have you loaded any s/w, etc?

Strange how the system would go from stable to unstable in a weeks time with no changes in the s/w.

the bsods started to happen the other day. i restored my system after talking to a tech. not sure if it helped but I haven't seen one since then. I tried restoring the system again today as I wanted to revert back to factory installed stuff after trying to install 9.12 drivers. that option no longer works so they are going to replace the drive considering that

as for the bluray drive - some movies work some don't. like you said, it more than likely is firmware related but considering it is effecting the two movies I just purchased along with the fact that the only purpose of this pc is to play movies, I'm not willing to wait till it gets addressed. the last firmware update for the drive is from August.

I just looked up support history online and I see they are going to send me a different drive - the one actually listed on my service page. It will be the HLDS drive this time and I hope it works out in the end

Stuff I installed...

TotalMedia - to see if it was an issue PowerDVD

Tried 9.11 and 9.12. I messed up some stuff with trying to get 9.11 to uninstall so had to restore. 9.12 went fine but I lost the option for 1366x728 and I didn't want to install something like powerstrip to get that resolution.

BD Advisor - realized that the video card isn't good enough for Picture in Picture but not that important to me

Security Essentials

Logitech Setpoint for my Dinovo Mini

Teamviewer to remote in

Then just windows updates.

If I could restore, I would check to see if a fresh install would help with the above. Perhaps when I get home I may do a fresh install using the disc that came with the system
post #2558 of 5041
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

It's tight, but not unreasonably so. Dell made this very modular so customers could swap things out themselves.

I was thinking about going to a WD Green drive instead of the blue one in there now.

It should run a little cooler, though probably not a lot cooler.

Wouldn't a 2.5 be better?
post #2559 of 5041
CCC overscan update:
I decided to turn off my extended display on the big screen and use just the monitor while I setup media browser, daemon tools, etc.
I noticed the underscan issue in my monitor so I went into CCC to change the scaling settings and low and behold there is no scaling setting! When I turn the extended desktop back on, the scaling tab is there for the big screen, but sure enough the tab doesn't exist on the monitor - just the TV.
This might help explain why some of us have had the scaling tab and others haven't.
post #2560 of 5041
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Originally Posted by andyd2k View Post

Has anyone opened their system yet? I'm curious to know how tight things are considering they used a 3.5 inch drive instead of 2.5 inch. I would think switching to a laptop drive will help immensely with heat. Then again, I'm not sure how easy it would be to switch it to 2.5 inch without using brackets to keep it in place.

2.5" drives I think only run at 5400rpm and I think a 7200rpm drive is better. Speeds up loading time for things.
post #2561 of 5041
Java Jack,

Did you see my question at the bottom of page 85 about the file type that is created from using the AnyDVD/My Movies combination. And if the standard PowerDVD that comes with the Zino will play the file. Also, If I was to purchase the TMT to play the ripped movies, can I install it on more than one computer in my house so I can play the ripped movies on any computer in my house.
post #2562 of 5041
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Originally Posted by andyd2k View Post

Where did you hear it was going to a pay model? I haven't run into that bit of news anywhere on greenbutton, mediabrower or hack7mc

This has been pretty commonly discussed since around August, everyone is just waiting for when the paid switch will be turned on and how much:

http://www.samsaffron.com/archive/20...+Media+Browser
post #2563 of 5041
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Originally Posted by rjwilson37 View Post

2.5" drives I think only run at 5400rpm and I think a 7200rpm drive is better. Speeds up loading time for things.

There are 7200 ones as well. Newegg has a wd 250 Scorpio for 60 or something like that. I'm not sure about noise though

I would be surprised if a 2.5 didn't help with overall airflow in the system and improve temps. I may take the chance and order one soon
post #2564 of 5041
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Originally Posted by rjwilson37 View Post

Java Jack,

Did you see my question at the bottom of page 85 about the file type that is created from using the AnyDVD/My Movies combination. And if the standard PowerDVD that comes with the Zino will play the file. Also, If I was to purchase the TMT to play the ripped movies, can I install it on more than one computer in my house so I can play the ripped movies on any computer in my house.

AnyDVD will let you rip VOB or ISO. I chose VOB folders same quality as an ISO image but you don't need to mount any drives.

I have not tried the PDVD that comes with the Zino. I assume it would work but I did not check it.

You would need to check with Arcsoft on the Lic. agreement. I am not sure what their policy is on muliple installs.
post #2565 of 5041
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Originally Posted by andyd2k View Post

Wouldn't a 2.5 be better?

Thermally, perhaps. However, you would need to rig some type of mounting bracket and it would be harder and more expensive to buy larger density.

you can get the green drives which are optimized for these types of applications (fluid bearings for quiet operation, optmized f/w for streaming media playback, etc.). They also have better thermals than standard DT drives.

Seagate Pipeline
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/pro...nics/pipeline/

WD Green
http://www.westerndigital.com/en/pro...sp?driveid=773

Samsung EcoGreen
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...=444&ppmi=1170
post #2566 of 5041
So if I understand this correctly, when you upgrade the video to an HD4330 card, do you then get the VGA port?

Also, is this VGA port capable of TV-Out? If you use a cheap adapter like THIS can you then get composite and s-video out?

I know the VGA port needs to be capable of TV-Out, like a laptop VGA port, for this to work. If it's not capable, then I suppose a $50 converter box from VGA to S-Video is needed. The reason for this, I only have 1 HDMI port in and many composite & s-video ins. If I plan to get another HDMI device, then I'll have to use my only port. At the moment video quality is not a concern.

sk
post #2567 of 5041
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

Thermally, perhaps. However, you would need to rig some type of mounting bracket and it would be harder and more expensive to buy larger density.

you can get the green drives which are optimized for these types of applications (fluid bearings for quiet operation, optmized f/w for streaming media playback, etc.). They also have better thermals than standard DT drives.

Seagate Pipeline
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/pro...nics/pipeline/

WD Green
http://www.westerndigital.com/en/pro...sp?driveid=773

Samsung EcoGreen
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...=444&ppmi=1170

You can find 2.5" to 3.5" adapter brackets at Fry's for 3 bucks or so, and I suspect other places too. They are very much in demand these days with folks installing 2.5" SSD's in desktop systems. I have 2 of these brackets on my desk now for that very purpose in fact.

My Zino's came with a WD Blue 250GB drive. Pretty quick actually. I did swap them out for higher density configs, but the 250GB drives make nice system drives for my servers...
post #2568 of 5041
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Originally Posted by Skram0 View Post

So if I understand this correctly, when you upgrade the video to an HD4330 card, do you then get the VGA port?

Also, is this VGA port capable of TV-Out? If you use a cheap adapter like THIS can you then get composite and s-video out?

I know the VGA port needs to be capable of TV-Out, like a laptop VGA port, for this to work. If it's not capable, then I suppose a $50 converter box from VGA to S-Video is needed. The reason for this, I only have 1 HDMI port in and many composite & s-video ins. If I plan to get another HDMI device, then I'll have to use my only port. At the moment video quality is not a concern.

sk

Mine came with VGA ports and they only have the 780G IGP. I thunk VGA comes in all configs.
post #2569 of 5041
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Originally Posted by Java Jack View Post

AnyDVD will let you rip VOB or ISO. I chose VOB folders same quality as an ISO image but you don't need to mount any drives.

Is that with or without their CloneDVD product? I'd like to get AnyDVD but don't know if I need CloneDVD just to rip to VOB folders...
post #2570 of 5041
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Originally Posted by jfischer View Post

Is that with or without their CloneDVD product? I'd like to get AnyDVD but don't know if I need CloneDVD just to rip to VOB folders...

You don't need clonedvd - the my movies plugin handles that part.
post #2571 of 5041
Great thread guys!

I stumbled upon it looking to see when the EB1502 would come out.. I was thinking about getting the ASRock 330 too.. The CPU on the Zino looks like a winner! Too bad I missed the Black Friday deal Anybody know of any Dell coupons I can use? Looks like all the 20-25% coupons before are dead now.
post #2572 of 5041
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Originally Posted by MikeSM View Post

You don't need clonedvd - the my movies plugin handles that part.

Sweet, I'll take a look at it AnyDVD then.
post #2573 of 5041
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Originally Posted by somms View Post

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=437800

Bigger is always better!

Think I was stressing my ZinoHD original 75W with all the devices I had connected tuner, external eSATA, ect., ect... 90W seems to be doing the job much better now...

The easy way to check that theory is to remove all those USB & eSATA items and run your tests on a stock Zino with the 75W supply.

Each USB device can draw, at most, 2.5W (500mA at 5V), but most don't.

Let me know how it goes.
post #2574 of 5041
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Originally Posted by jfischer View Post

Is that with or without their CloneDVD product? I'd like to get AnyDVD but don't know if I need CloneDVD just to rip to VOB folders...

I have to thank JJ for the info. I did play with the My Movies/AnyDVD thing today and the VOB I created played right through WMC very well. In getting ready for my new Zino to arrive though, I did find that I need the N-Gigabit router to stream between computers. I will use my MiniTower as the My Movies server and the Zino will be a client for anything I would rip to the server. Right now the downstairs PC is hardwired 100mb and the Mini Tower is upstairs using a Wireless G to a Linksys Wireless G router. The streaming was broken up and not clean playing the client downstairs.

Once my Zino HD comes with the Wireless N, the Mini Tower will move downstairs and be hard wired 100mb. I will get the N-Gigabit and tie it into my home network where that is how my laptop and the new Zino HD will connect. I may have to go out and get a PCI Gigabit card for the Mini Tower, which will be the My Movies server. The N will be faster than the 100mb hard wire connection, but maybe almost twice the speed of G will be enough to stream between the computers.

Oh.. jfischer... I did see that the CloneDVD will allow you to compress the file as it is created. I am not sure if the CloneDVD will create a VOB which is nice since it plays right through WMC.

My wife is kind of going crazy with all these misc. small expenses I am going through as I try to take another step forward for my home's HTPC needs/wants/whatever. hehehe

EDIT: Good news, I hard wired between the computers with 100mb and the streaming worked fine, so I am thinking between hard wired 100mb and the Wireless-N 144mb it should be great.
post #2575 of 5041
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Originally Posted by rjwilson37 View Post

Oh.. jfischer... I did see that the CloneDVD will allow you to compress the file as it is created. I am not sure if the CloneDVD will create a VOB which is nice since it plays right through WMC.

You can use DVDShrink if you want to compress the DVD but retain the Video_TS structure
post #2576 of 5041
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

No reason to not set up Media Browser as it is independent of WHS. I have all my media saved on my WHS machine and use MediaBrowser on my HTPCs. Here is my writeup on setting up MediaBrowser:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2009...1-3-0-phoenix/

Keep in mind that MediaBrowser will eventually be going to a paid model, possibly with the next release due out on 20-Dec. There has been no official confirmation of the pricing structure, and honestly if they were planning on going the paid way with the upcoming release they would have given advanced notice.

Couple of questions abou this if you don't mind.....

1. What player are you playing through Mediabrowser...WMP/MPC-HC
2. I have installed MPC-HC and Haali and it plays my rips fine. The only thing I question is if I use something other than MPC-HC what will I need if I use Mediabrowser. I downloaded everything from the post earlier in this thread about getting DXVA to work with ATI cards which was an older version of MPC-HC and Haali and I know the MPC-HC was 32 bit not for sure about Haali. I would imagine it is 32 bit. Do I need the 64 bit version of Haali if they even make one? I have different version of rips made....mkv, m2ts etc. I don't know what would be the best way to go for the Zino. Right now I only have BD rips so I thought about making them all flac since I don't have bitstreaming capabilities. Or, will the new products coming out allow me to change something out in the Zino to allow me to bitstream?

Sorry for all the question but I am very new to all of this. I have been a lurker for a long time but now I have finally jumped in.
post #2577 of 5041
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Originally Posted by rjwilson37 View Post

Oh.. jfischer... I did see that the CloneDVD will allow you to compress the file as it is created. I am not sure if the CloneDVD will create a VOB which is nice since it plays right through WMC.

I've tried that in the past and could see artifacts on my 52" TV. Hard drive space is cheap so I'm ripping them without compression.
post #2578 of 5041
What version of PowerDVD did you guys get with Win7-64 & BluRay?

I called Dell, and they shipped me a PowerDVD DX 7.0 disk, but I can't seem to use it to play any BluRay.
post #2579 of 5041
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Originally Posted by IBNobody View Post

What version of PowerDVD did you guys get with Win7-64 & BluRay?

I called Dell, and they shipped me a PowerDVD DX 7.0 disk, but I can't seem to use it to play any BluRay.

Have you checked for upgrades? I got 7.xx with my BD player - I installed it, clicked on the upgrade button, and downloaded a 90MB+ upgrade. After that, I had no problems playing BD.
post #2580 of 5041
My BD playback in PowerDVD DX is now broken.

On the bright side my SPDIF problem is fixed (for DVDs at least).
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