Originally Posted by csgamer
I guess people just have different opinions. Sure the 500m is probably the best 50" plasma, but 50" size is pretty dinky.
The picture quality from panny to pioneer may be more important to you. But a 54" size to 50" would be more noticeable to me over the picture quality difference between a pioneer or panny. Size isn't everything though but i probably would get a larger size panasonic, don't like the samsungs as much.
I went with 50" g10 due to wife budget limits. I would have definitely bought the pioneer 500m but price was way over the price i paid for the g10.
Like I said I would love to get a bigger set, but after looking at so many TV's over the last few months I found that it would have been too much of a compromise in picture quality for me. I too considered a 54" G10, but after seeing one beside a 50" in the store the size difference was barely noticeable and I'm afraid that if I brought one home I wouldn't notice a size upgrade at all. I would have just regretted not going for the better picture at that point which is the main reason I'm upgrading in the first place. It may be more noticeable to others, but the leap I took from 42" to 50" was way more of a jump than 50" to 54" for me.
I've seen the V10 series and I must admit that its very impressive, but the pricing still doesn't do it for me. The 50" costs just as much as the KRP-500M and there is still a sizable performance gap. If it were 58" at the $2000 price point then the trade-off would be warranted to me since the V10's black level is close enough that I wouldn't be disappointed and I would be getting a very noticeable increase in size. Unfortunately my ideal price for that set is not even close.
In fact, the best Panny that I've seen of recent is the Z series. I haven't seen any in depth reviews, but I looked at one at my local Magnolia Best Buy sitting next to a Samsung 860 with a Pioneer 141FD above it and its very impressive. The difference in black level from the Pioneer was very small....noticeable when heavily scrutinized, but noticeable nevertheless. The picture was still very impressive and the sleek styling with it being very thin is very attractive.
At the right price I could easily live with it, but there are two problems. One is that it only comes in a 54" model and two is that its $4500. If it were 58" or 60" and below $3000 then it would be an attractive alternative. Even Samsung's very thin 58" 860 can be had for under $3000 online which would be another good option if black level were better. So even in the under $3000 price point there's nothing touching the KRP-600M.
I think Panasonic would have given us better pricing on their better models had Pioneer decided to stay in the TV business, but with the best making an exit they know that they command these prices. And even though Panasonic is the new black level champ with Pioneer going the way of the dodo they better get their act together with color accuracy. The new models disappoint me greatly in that department.
My 10G Panny is way more accurate than the new models save for the Z series which I find to be very accurate. This oversight has sent a lot people Samsung's way this year where a small sacrifice in black level gave us a much more accurate picture...even more accurate than most Pioneer sets. If Samsung could have matched Panasonic in the black level arena Panasonic would be in big trouble this year since Samsung's pricing is very competitive. After the TV Shootout this year I think Panasonic will correct this with the 13G sets because I'm sure that they were very disappointed to have the V10 come in behind the Samsung 860 and the LG LED LCD in most people's eyes. I know that I was disappointed when I saw the greenish/yellowish push on all but the Z series myself.