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post #301 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

The Onkyo TX-NR807 features tab lists that this receiver does not have a Multi Channel Input!! Which in fact I think I need for my PS3 audio if I am correct. Can someone please get me some info as I am looking into purchasing this receiver but without this option it might be useless!

Thanks

If you're using a PS3 you're going HDMI In to the receiver for audio and video and HDMI out from the receiver to the TV. You personally should be fine.


However:

I went to Onkyo's site and even took a look at the back of the unit via their picture gallery and sure enough...I can't believe it...I see NO multichannel analog inputs.

Joerod, is that right?
post #302 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ View Post

If you're using a PS3 you're going HDMI In to the receiver for audio and video and HDMI out from the receiver to the TV. You personally should be fine.


However:

I went to Onkyo's site and even took a look at the back of the unit via their picture gallery and sure enough...I can't believe it...I see NO multichannel analog inputs.

Joerod, is that right?

Yeah it's crazy! And also I noticed that the Receiver lists that it has Audyssey DSX 3D surround processing but in fact you go to the Features tab again and it says it does not have this!! Misleading!!!!!
post #303 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

Yeah it's crazy! And also I noticed that the Receiver lists that it has Audyssey DSX 3D surround processing but in fact you go to the Features tab again and it says it does not have this!! Misleading!!!!!

I don't know if it's misleading because that term usually has a pretty negative and deliberate connotation...maybe someone forgot to do a little proofreading or was in a hurry or something.

EDIT: FWIW, Joerod mentioned and confirmed things like that Audyssey DSX 3D back in the very post of the thread. If you haven't read his review posts, they're worth your time.
post #304 of 5476
Thread Starter 
Yes, the 807 does not have multi channel inputs. They had to find away to separate it from the uppers... And I don't know why you would complain if you are using a PS3 since it does in have pre outs (multi channel outs) anyway.
post #305 of 5476
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Yes, the 807 does not have multi channel inputs. They had to find away to separate it from the uppers... And I don't know why you would complain if you are using a PS3 since it does in have pre outs (multi channel outs) anyway.

I am not complaining I was just told from a friend that you have have have the Muti Channel Input for the audio to work on the PS3! Guess he is wrong and not informed but more info would be great since I don't know nearly as much as everyone on here! haha! Thanks guys I appreciate it!
post #306 of 5476
How does the video processing performance in the 807 compare to the 876 or 906? I like how the 807 seems to perform, but I am really looking into getting the 1007. It seems to be a good deal better (worth the extra $). I am also considering the 3007, but the only thing that really has me considering the 3007 is the Reon. But maybe Onkyo has improved the performance of the DCDi Cinema to the point where the margin between the two is much smaller?

i would like high quality image out of my HD cable DVR, but I have the Oppo BDP-83 with the VRS chip, so I will have great video there. I have NHT Classic 3's all around for fronts and rears, so I think they are good enough to actually hear the difference in audio SQ and warrant the 1007 over the 807, and maybe even the 3007?

I will be replacing a Yammie RX-V2600, and do not want to think of myself as downgrading in any area. What are your thoughts people? 807, 1007, or 3007?
post #307 of 5476
People using the 807 with a PS3 have any problems or no? I am really thinking about purchasing this receiver and hope its a good choice!! I am also buying some new speakers so the set up should be nice!
post #308 of 5476
Haven't seen these questions answered yet, unless I missed them.
1. Does the 807 allow for combining video and audio outputs from different sources? Like watching cable tv and listening to the radio?

2. Does the 807 do HDMI pass through, ie allow watching cable tv without the receiver on?

Thanks.
post #309 of 5476
Anyone??
post #310 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

People using the 807 with a PS3 have any problems or no? I am really thinking about purchasing this receiver and hope its a good choice!! I am also buying some new speakers so the set up should be nice!

No problems with my PS3 connected to the 807 via HDMI
post #311 of 5476
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Originally Posted by old blue View Post

Haven't seen these questions answered yet, unless I missed them.
1. Does the 807 allow for combining video and audio outputs from different sources? Like watching cable tv and listening to the radio?

2. Does the 807 do HDMI pass through, ie allow watching cable tv without the receiver on?

Thanks.

2. Yes, but with no sound being passed, only picture. This could be because of my own ineptitude.
post #312 of 5476
You may need to set HDMI audio out to on.
post #313 of 5476
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Originally Posted by stereowise View Post

How does the video processing performance in the 807 compare to the 876 or 906? I like how the 807 seems to perform, but I am really looking into getting the 1007. It seems to be a good deal better (worth the extra $). I am also considering the 3007, but the only thing that really has me considering the 3007 is the Reon. But maybe Onkyo has improved the performance of the DCDi Cinema to the point where the margin between the two is much smaller?

i would like high quality image out of my HD cable DVR, but I have the Oppo BDP-83 with the VRS chip, so I will have great video there. I have NHT Classic 3's all around for fronts and rears, so I think they are good enough to actually hear the difference in audio SQ and warrant the 1007 over the 807, and maybe even the 3007?

I will be replacing a Yammie RX-V2600, and do not want to think of myself as downgrading in any area. What are your thoughts people? 807, 1007, or 3007?


I would go with the 3007 or 906 (good deals on it at this point) if PLIIx and DSX are not important to you; you can even get an 876 if networking is not important to you.

Faroudja (DCDi) is known to be an underachiever with HD content (720p to 1080p and 1080i to 1080p) but a reasonably good performer with SD content. On the other hand, the REON in the 876/906 (and imagine the 3007) pretty much aces everything; my 876 does a tremendous job cleaning up 480i from my cable box. One caveat, on the 876/906 there is no aspect ratio detection, what this means is you have to set the aspect ratio manually so if you set it to full SD content is stretched if you set it to normal HD content is squished (that is unless your cable box correctly sets the aspect ratio for SD material); I'm not sure if this has been rectified in the 3007 and I'm also not sure how the DCDi equipped Onkyos' deal with this.
post #314 of 5476
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Originally Posted by EVT View Post

I would go with the 3007 or 906 (good deals on it at this point) if PLIIx and DSX are not important to you; you can even get an 876 if networking is not important to you.

Faroudja (DCDi) is known to be an underachiever with HD content (720p to 1080p and 1080i to 1080p) but a reasonably good performer with SD content. On the other hand, the REON in the 876/906 (and imagine the 3007) pretty much aces everything; my 876 does a tremendous job cleaning up 480i from my cable box. One caveat, on the 876/906 there is no aspect ratio detection, what this means is you have to set the aspect ratio manually so if you set it to full SD content is stretched if you set it to normal HD content is squished (that is unless your cable box correctly sets the aspect ratio for SD material); I'm not sure if this has been rectified in the 3007 and I'm also not sure how the DCDi equipped Onkyos' deal with this.

Keep in mind that the SR707, NR807, and NR1007 have DCDi Cinema... not the older DCDi Edge that all mid-lower Onkyos have carried in the past (and is still found on the SR607 and down). While still not Reon or ABT, DCDi Cinema is a much better scaling solution than Edge and may be enough for those of us with great scaling in a BD/DVD player and minimal devices requiring scaling/upconversion. In my case my BD player (currently Oppo w/ ABT, previously Samsung w/ Reon) handles DVD scaling, my TV content is 90% HD from my TivoHD, and the only device that would benefit from the upgraded video processing is the Wii.
post #315 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins View Post

Keep in mind that the SR707, NR807, and NR1007 have DCDi Cinema... not the older DCDi Edge that all mid-lower Onkyos have carried in the past (and is still found on the SR607 and down). While still not Reon or ABT, DCDi Cinema is a much better scaling solution than Edge and may be enough for those of us with great scaling in a BD/DVD player and minimal devices requiring scaling/upconversion. In my case my BD player (currently Oppo w/ ABT, previously Samsung w/ Reon) handles DVD scaling, my TV content is 90% HD from my TivoHD, and the only device that would benefit from the upgraded video processing is the Wii.

i recently changed from time warner cable to ATT u verse, NO HD channels at all. i guess im going to need a 3007.
post #316 of 5476
Ok. I just noticed that the 807 messes with the output signal on 1080p/24
it seems to always send out a 30 bitycbcr signal even though it got a 24 bit signal
when set to through or auto. Anyone know why? Or perhaps I'm losing it.
post #317 of 5476
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

Ok. I just noticed that the 807 messes with the output signal on 1080p/24
it seems to always send out a 30 bitycbcr signal even though it got a 24 bit signal
when set to through or auto. Anyone know why? Or perhaps I'm losing it.

i had trouble with my onkyo 906 and my oppo in getting the 36 bit signal passed to my pioneer. in the end i had to ensure that the input video adjustments were all turned off. from recollection, it required a quick on and off of one of the video adjustments to reset the handshake from the 906.
post #318 of 5476
Here is my setup
oppo bdp-83
pioneer 141
807
if I select display on onkyo it shows the following info
input hdmi 1: 1920x1080p 24hz YCBCr24bit
output hdmi 1: 1920x1080p 24hz YCBCr30bit
the pioneer is showing the following 1080p 30 bit (isf day)
oppo is auto.
I'm not sure why itz not sending the 32. I have all video processing off. Seems like a quirk to me. I expect no processing of the signal if I select through.
Isn't this what others would expect.
post #319 of 5476
Pretty good deal on the new HT-RC180 '807 cousin' at OneCall right now, check it out. 1/4 of $1K off from the MSRP, not too lousy. Features-wise they are very similar: 5 HDMI inputs vs. 6 the 807, etc. Visit OnkyoUSA for all the details. If I can help a couple of people it was worth it, the risk of posting it.
post #320 of 5476
I just purchased the 807 and want to run my 2 B&W center speakers, 1 above 1 below my plasma. Can this be done on the 807? I had a Yamaha 992 and it had 2 center inputs. Thanks.
post #321 of 5476
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Originally Posted by talkDr View Post

I just purchased the 807 and want to run my 2 B&W center speakers, 1 above 1 below my plasma. Can this be done on the 807? I had a Yamaha 992 and it had 2 center inputs. Thanks.



I've heard of people doing the double center thing, I always thought it would muffle the sound, and interfere with the dialog. I assumed the Yammy would have the second center input/ center speaker post for a second zone, not for double duty.

I guess this is something that works for you, would like to hear what benefits you get out of two centers.

Djoel
post #322 of 5476
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Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post

i recently changed from time warner cable to ATT u verse, NO HD channels at all. i guess im going to need a 3007.

Why don't you have HD? They are supposed to be one of the best for PQ out there. I have Verizon (which is similar) and have over 100 HD channels.
post #323 of 5476
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Originally Posted by mbyrnes View Post

Why don't you have HD? They are supposed to be one of the best for PQ out there. I have Verizon (which is similar) and have over 100 HD channels.

i do not watch a lot of tv. right now im watching the syfy channel its crystal clear but could be better.
post #324 of 5476
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Originally Posted by old blue View Post

Haven't seen these questions answered yet, unless I missed them.
1. Does the 807 allow for combining video and audio outputs from different sources? Like watching cable tv and listening to the radio?

2. Does the 807 do HDMI pass through, ie allow watching cable tv without the receiver on?

Thanks.

Any ideas on 1?

Thanks.
post #325 of 5476
When I just had 1 center it just didnt sound loud enough having 2 really helped, but that was on the Yamaha, I noticed newer receivers dont have the dual imput anymore. I prob dont need it with the 807 but I still like the idea of having a top and bottom center speaker so the sound comes from the middle of the screen, sort of. Any thoughts are appreciated.
post #326 of 5476
the "dual center" thing has long ago died and (as you have found) is no longer offered (or encouraged) on newer receivers. there is a lot of research to suggest it is not a good idea acoustically (because of the interference between the two speakers e.g. comb filtering), so it is not really "recommended" anymore.
post #327 of 5476
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Originally Posted by old blue View Post

Any ideas on 1?

Thanks.

For the HDMI inputs you can choose any of the other digital audio inputs, so yes, you can listen to a different audio source from the video. But I don't think you could combine two different audio sources at the same time. At least, not that I've been able to find so far.

Still having problems with the video dropping out when coming from the htpc (even in passthrough mode with the 807 in standby) and Onkyo support insists that it's a known problem with some cable boxes and not the fault of the 807. They also were happy to inform me that they don't support connecting to a htpc, so they can't really help me with my problem. Kind of disappointing really... but for now I'm splitting my audio through the 807 via digital coax and the video hdmi direct to the tv. It works, just not the ideal solution.
post #328 of 5476
Is there a post showing comprehensive comparison between the 807 and the RC180? I am confused as to what the significant differences between the two may be.

Thanks.
post #329 of 5476
First of all, I hope you are feeling better joerod.

You had great comments about the DCDi Cinema performance in the 807. I have read that the non-Reon based receivers have been lacking in video performance. But then I have also read that it was mostly the older DCDi Edge chips that were lacking in performance.

The 706 and 806 also use the DCDi Cinema chip. Would you say that their video performance was as good as that of the 807? Or is the implementation of the 807 much better? And how does the 807 video performance compare to that 876?

I was eyeing the 807, until I saw the specs forthe 1007. Now I am drooling over the 1007. I can justify the added cost of the 1007. I also looked at the 3007. It's features are also impressive, but the only thing that I would really want in the 3007 is the Reon chip. But i am not sure it is worth the extra money for the Reon chip, especially since I have the Oppo Blu-ray player. You're thoughts?

Also, will you also be reviewing the 1007?
post #330 of 5476
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Originally Posted by stereowise View Post

I was eyeing the 807, until I saw the specs forthe 1007. Now I am drooling over the 1007. I can justify the added cost of the 1007. I also looked at the 3007. It's features are also impressive, but the only thing that I would really want in the 3007 is the Reon chip. But i am not sure it is worth the extra money for the Reon chip, especially since I have the Oppo Blu-ray player. You're thoughts?

i have an 807 and an OPPO Blu and have had reon based players also, first i really like the 807 but would go with the 1007 if i could do it over. second since you have one the best upsamplng video for discs then i would have to take in consideration the amount of material veiwed from other sources and how badly i'm concerned with their video quality. personally having a reon solution for the other video source(s) in my case a dish vipr722 receiver, is not that important to me, normally i watch tv on my 42" plasma and basically use my projector for dvd/blu. the DCDI Cinema works fine for me, however each setup is different so if you must have the best video for your other sources then spending the extra $$$$ shouldn't matter. hope my comments are useful to you......
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