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post #3181 of 5396
6/26/10 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Just make sure your cousin doesn't have 4 ohm speakers and I think you're both good to go. I run all 7 channels on mine to loud music (90-95 measured dB) at times and have no problems at all with clarity of playback or heat from the AVR. Speakers are SVS..5 across the front and 2 Cambridge surrounds, 87 dB sensitivity, 8 ohm nominal impedance. It will also play back at reference but that's just too loud for me personally. My unit is the RC-180, which is rated at 115 WPC vs the 135 of the 807.....but it's the same amplifier section, just downrated on paper for US price positioning.

YMMV but I don't think so....you're Def Techs (nice speakers, BTW) are more sensitive and their specs say "Compatible with 8 Ohms outputs"

Your speakers are very nice also i've read good things about that line, I have two of there subs and they are sooo nice.

I will have to check with the dealer to see if I can return it if I don't think it got the power for the 5 speakers, I'll just hook it on the floor after I take it out of the box. if it does pass a basic playing the re would be no reason to go to the trouble of shelving it. I'll let you know which way i'll go.
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post #3182 of 5396
6/26/10 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by Plex View Post

Your speakers are very nice also i've read good things about that line, I have two of there subs and they are sooo nice.

I will have to check with the dealer to see if I can return it if I don't think it got the power for the 5 speakers, I'll just hook it on the floor after I take it out of the box. if it does pass a basic playing the re would be no reason to go to the trouble of shelving it. I'll let you know which way i'll go.

Not sure where you plan to purchase but I think this authorized dealer has the best East Coast price w/free shipping right now...and looks like their return policy is liberal but you pay shipping.
http://www.us-appliance.com/txnr807.html

Happy shopping!
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post #3183 of 5396
6/26/10 at 9:01pm
Hi All: I've had my 807 for roughly 3 months now and, while it started out giving me some networking issues with Pandora, etc., somehow, it sort of resolved itself.

I'm now going to move and will continue to use my 807 for my future bedroom system, but would like to get a somewhat more powerful one for my new living room's set up.

I understand that, like anything else, there are certain models that have given folks more trouble/issues than other models, so i'd like to ask here if the good folks here know which higher model than the 807 is the LEAST troublesome? I'd like to get something one or two models up from the 807 but don't want to get one that will give me more problems than my 807 (which is doing ok now in my current bedroom system - somehow, the initial networking problems sort of stopped happening now).

The trouble is that the models that are one or two models above the 807 don't seem like they handle much more at all - very few additional features, and their power output are only mildly higher, though their power supplies seem to be much more robust and seemingly better built.

Thanks in advance!
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post #3184 of 5396
6/26/10 at 11:27pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Not sure where you plan to purchase but I think this authorized dealer has the best East Coast price w/free shipping right now...and looks like their return policy is liberal but you pay shipping.
http://www.us-appliance.com/txnr807.html

Happy shopping!

You should have NO problem pushing a 5.1 with the 807. I run 7.2 with 6ohm speakers, a 290watt and a 200watt sub and have more than enough power. When I'm at 50% volume with the subs and center boosted, my neighborhood can hear my movies.

Kmike has the best recommendation for purchase, and like the quote says, US App is an authorized Onkyo Internet dealer. Go for it.
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post #3185 of 5396
6/27/10 at 6:30am
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Originally Posted by eieio View Post

Hi All: I've had my 807 for roughly 3 months now and, while it started out giving me some networking issues with Pandora, etc., somehow, it sort of resolved itself.

I'm now going to move and will continue to use my 807 for my future bedroom system, but would like to get a somewhat more powerful one for my new living room's set up.

I understand that, like anything else, there are certain models that have given folks more trouble/issues than other models, so i'd like to ask here if the good folks here know which higher model than the 807 is the LEAST troublesome? I'd like to get something one or two models up from the 807 but don't want to get one that will give me more problems than my 807 (which is doing ok now in my current bedroom system - somehow, the initial networking problems sort of stopped happening now).

The trouble is that the models that are one or two models above the 807 don't seem like they handle much more at all - very few additional features, and their power output are only mildly higher, though their power supplies seem to be much more robust and seemingly better built.

Thanks in advance!

I don't know if there's a way to guage LEAST troublesome...but the guys in the 1007 thread seem generally happy with their units, especially since the 1008 has had such a big haircut....lost 11 lbs, lost MultEQ XT, lost Ultra2 Plus certification. Going to a 1007, these features are all step-up adds from an 807, plus you pick up the @12 lbs of amplifier/heatsink/power supply weight and two more 135w channels for a 9.2 AVR. If I were in the market to upgrade, I would go for an 1007 at current closeout pricing of <$900. The production and component quality were probably at their peak for the later units produced as they transition lines to the xx08 series.
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post #3186 of 5396
6/27/10 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Pelly_NV, sometimes it can get confusing but relax and take a deep breath.

- Monitor Out > "HDMI"
- HDMI Input GAME > "-----"
- Component Video Input GAME > "IN2" (make sure CBL/SAT is "-----")
- Digital Audio Input GAME > "-----"

Now read page 27 in OM:
To by-pass video upconversion in the receiver, simultaneously press the [VCR/DVR] and [RETURN] buttons on the AV receiver. While continuing to hold down the [VCR/DVR] button, press the [RETURN] button to toggle until "Skip" appears on the display. Release both buttons.

To use the video upconversion in the receiver, repeat the above process until "Use" appears on the display and release the buttons.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately, it seems as though my Apple dock is a lemon. After trying your suggestion, I still wasn't getting any results.

I then connected directly to the component and RCA inputs on my TV and still nothing.

Going to swap for a new one at Apple and try again.

Thx again for the help folks!
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post #3187 of 5396
6/27/10 at 5:38pm
Anyone found a way to get to or toggle Dynamic EQ ON/OFF without going into Setup?
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post #3188 of 5396
6/27/10 at 6:53pm
^^^Sorry, can't help.

I wish there was a way to adjust the balance with the remote control without having to go into "Speaker Setup/Level Calibration". This drives me nuts as I try to get the soundstage perfect from my listening position.
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post #3189 of 5396
6/27/10 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Anyone found a way to get to or toggle Dynamic EQ ON/OFF without going into Setup?

yeah hit audio button on remote > 4 way button toggle up till Dynamic EQ comes on the display >then hit right toggle for on / off you can also change levels of the the Bass, sub woofer ,center channel here also
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post #3190 of 5396
6/27/10 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

yeah hit audio button on remote > 4 way button toggle up till Dynamic EQ comes on the display >then hit right toggle for on / off you can also change levels of the the Bass, sub woofer ,center channel here also

Thanks for the reply.
The Audio button can toggle Dynamic Volume On/Off and will also toggle Dynamic EQ to "On" if it's set to "Off" when first turning on DV....but afterwards, you can't get to DEQ to turn it "Off" again unless you enter Setup->Audio Adjust->Audyssey->Dynamic EQ->Off

I was hoping to find another way to get at the setting.
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post #3191 of 5396
6/27/10 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by F=ma View Post

^^^Sorry, can't help.

I wish there was a way to adjust the balance with the remote control without having to go into "Speaker Setup/Level Calibration". This drives me nuts as I try to get the soundstage perfect from my listening position.

Just lean left or right a little. JK

I can accept the balance as recorded...and getting to the Center and Subwoofer level adjust on the fly are more useful I think.
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post #3192 of 5396
6/27/10 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by Plex View Post

Need everyone's help on this please.

Why should I get the 807 over the Denon 3310? I've read and read and it's down to these two, prices and physical size are important so the 1007 lost out and so did the 4310 for those reasons.

This AVR is going to be used in a second HT setup and I will need to supply either audio signal or physical power to outside speakers [I have another amp to receive info from the 807]. I'm running 5.1 DT speakers and SVS sub [will not do 7.1] which all work on the current Yamaha 5860. I am really interested in the internet radio usage and how well it does. I am not worried about up scaling since much this will be used for BD mostly but I will have it hooked to Comcast DVR, which is the only thing that would need some help. I do not care if I can hook another amp to the 807.

Can I use the DSX/PLIIx to add height or width and still supply info [internet radio] to another receiver for outside use?

I will be posting these same questions the Denon 3310 thread; I need find out the pro/cons that each side knows of the other's equipment.


i'm actually doing a preorder 808 vs 3310 contemplation... as i found both at very similar prices. the 3310 if youve read, can have shaky NIC cards, and long turnaround to get it replaced. 3310 was already a victim of industry wide 'mysterious' weight trimming... 808 is 40lbs. 3310 is i think HD radio fully-ready, the onkyo 808 2010 model, you need to spend another 100-150 for an adapter. my other fear is could the 3310 'sound' better.
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post #3193 of 5396
6/27/10 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by andrewdoan View Post

Plex, everybody has different set up and need but if you only use 5.1 set up, I would call it a toss-up between the 3310ci and the 807.

My personal problem is the " made-in-China" label on the back of the Denon unit and it is just ME. I do not want to buy something and will have to wonder about its reliablity issue.

My Denon 3301 put me in a panic mode when the " Helicopter sound" is produced unpredictably while I am listen to HD radio, so here I am waiting for the replacement and I do not know it will have the same issue with the returned unit or not.

On the other hand, I have been using Onkyo for so many years and my old 703 and the 876 still perform as a work-horse after many years of usage. My advice to you is to buy the Denon from an authorized dealer who has a hassel free return policy such as 6th Ave eletronics. They even provide me a free returned shipping label. I will not mention other dealers but I had to pay some hefty shipping charge when I have my floor standing Energy returned and some case a 15% re-stocking fees.

Good luck and be carefull.

yea, i can't get w/ 'Denon' doing made in china... onkyo and yamaha dont even do that, while youmay say both brands don't premium price their products to Denons extent. onkyo and yamaha they've been in malaysia for awhile, aiwa back then (lol) jvc too i think... i think it just seems audio hardware manufacturing is a bit more mature in malaysia.
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post #3194 of 5396
6/27/10 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

For those who like to keep track of things like firmware update by release date and nomenclature, here's a useful reference site link:
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi.../tx-nr807.html

If you've used the Onkyo US website for data and support, you know it's pretty dry over there The Asia and Oceania site linked above is a colorful and slick visit. Click "INDEX" to the parent directory and have a look around.

man, thx, it's like turning on a color TV
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post #3195 of 5396
6/27/10 at 9:31pm
Wow, this new firmware is a winner.

So far, my "no audio on power on" has not resurfaced with the new firmware (that claims to fix this problem). Now, my one major annoyance with the Onkyo has been fixed and no more plug-pulling necessary.
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post #3196 of 5396
6/27/10 at 10:35pm
Can anyone confirm if you are able to add additional radio stations ala slacker,last.fm,deezer,etc??
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post #3197 of 5396
6/28/10 at 4:04am
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Originally Posted by MandM View Post

Can anyone confirm if you are able to add additional radio stations ala slacker,last.fm,deezer,etc??

I can confirm that Slacker WON"T work. You can add other stations that don't require log in, just access the control panel by typing in the receivers' IP Address into your computers browser, then add the new station name and URL to the list. Be sure to add it in position #5, leaving vTuner, Pandora and others alone.
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post #3198 of 5396
6/28/10 at 11:04am
I posted this as an independent topic, but got no replies.

I think my HK AVR635 is on its last legs. It turns itself off randomly at this point.

I run 4 ohm speakers all around in a 5.1 config (88dB sensitivity).
I didn't include the Denons becaus batpig recommends at least the 43xx series to power the 4 ohm speakers, and the 43xx series is out of my price range. I am looking at buying used/refurbished.

Any clear winners between the HK and Onkyo?
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post #3199 of 5396
6/28/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

I can confirm that Slacker WON"T work. You can add other stations that don't require log in, just access the control panel by typing in the receivers' IP Address into your computers browser, then add the new station name and URL to the list. Be sure to add it in position #5, leaving vTuner, Pandora and others alone.

Thanks for the the clarification. I noticed the 808 advertises Slacker so I'll check it out.
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post #3200 of 5396
6/28/10 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by scsnospam View Post

I posted this as an independent topic, but got no replies.

I think my HK AVR635 is on its last legs. It turns itself off randomly at this point.

I run 4 ohm speakers all around in a 5.1 config (88dB sensitivity).
I didn't include the Denons becaus batpig recommends at least the 43xx series to power the 4 ohm speakers, and the 43xx series is out of my price range. I am looking at buying used/refurbished.

Any clear winners between the HK and Onkyo?

The 807 is 4 ohm certified. Don't know about the H/K, but would assume it would be able to drive em also. Ask about the H/K's ability in that dedicated thread. Someone there should be able to help you with that question.
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post #3201 of 5396
6/28/10 at 6:14pm
I don't understand why Slacker won't work with the 807 if it works with the 808. Hopefully its something they can add in a future firmware update. Then again, if the 808 is coming out, the firmware upgrades might be done for the 807.

Looking at the features on the 808 vs 807, and although there's a couple of new bells and whistles, doesn't seem like much of a difference considering the discounted price unless you need the HDMI 1.4.
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post #3202 of 5396
6/28/10 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by mick00016 View Post

I don't understand why Slacker won't work with the 807 if it works with the 808. Hopefully its something they can add in a future firmware update. Then again, if the 808 is coming out, the firmware upgrades might be done for the 807.

Looking at the features on the 808 vs 807, and although there's a couple of new bells and whistles, doesn't seem like much of a difference considering the discounted price unless you need the HDMI 1.4.

When the manufacturer integrates a station as a default, that stations' log in screens, user preferences, selection menus, etc. are all part of the user interface in the receiver firmware.....ala Slacker in the 808 working like Pandora in the 807. I don't think you can add that after the fact through a manufacturers firmware update...it's probably in a ROM that has an associated EPROM for program updates.
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post #3203 of 5396
6/29/10 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by mick00016 View Post

I don't understand why Slacker won't work with the 807 if it works with the 808. Hopefully its something they can add in a future firmware update. Then again, if the 808 is coming out, the firmware upgrades might be done for the 807.

Looking at the features on the 808 vs 807, and although there's a couple of new bells and whistles, doesn't seem like much of a difference considering the discounted price unless you need the HDMI 1.4.

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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

When the manufacturer integrates a station as a default, that stations' log in screens, user preferences, selection menus, etc. are all part of the user interface in the receiver firmware.....ala Slacker in the 808 working like Pandora in the 807. I don't think you can add that after the fact through a manufacturers firmware update...it's probably in a ROM that has an associated EPROM for program updates.

My guess is that it should be possible to do thru a firmware update. My samsung 3600 blu player came with firmware version 1.03 which included pandora and netflix streaming. One of the firmware updates that have come along since (I think it was version 2.03) added blockbuster and youtube streaming to the primary menu. I don't see any reason why this would be any different with the 807, as far as possibility is concerned.
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post #3204 of 5396
6/29/10 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by Sideofpotatos View Post

My guess is that it should be possible to do thru a firmware update. My samsung 3600 blu player came with firmware version 1.03 which included pandora and netflix streaming. One of the firmware updates that have come along since (I think it was version 2.03) added blockbuster and youtube streaming to the primary menu. I don't see any reason why this would be any different with the 807, as far as possibility is concerned.

You might be right from a capabilities point of view....and something like logo placement, royalty payments and contract issues will get in the way.
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post #3205 of 5396
6/29/10 at 9:38am
So I rushed home after work on Friday to see the FedEx made no attempt to hide the fact that there was a very expensive piece of A/V equipment sitting outside my door. Putting that aside I was really excited to get this baby inside. As I opened it and pulled it out of the box, the first thing I noticed was that everything was packed up very nicely for being a refurb from A4L. I had been so worried about it being beat up. Of course i still hadn't looked at the face of the unit and as I turned it around my heart began to sink. To my surprise the unit was in perfect condition. I was expecting at least a few scratches, but nothing at all. Not even a finger print. I was soooo relieved. I know about some of the horror stories from people buying refurbed units.

Long story short, this unit is great. Tons of power and features, it pushes my 100w legacy cerwin vega RE-20's with ease and really clean, even if it is a bit bright. I haven't had any problems at all, except for I had to rerun Audyssey because I was getting some hissing. It seems to be better now, but I'll keep you updated. This is by far the best A/V you can get for the money. Period.
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post #3206 of 5396
6/29/10 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Vespertine View Post

So I rushed home after work on Friday to see the FedEx made no attempt to hide the fact that there was a very expensive piece of A/V equipment sitting outside my door. Putting that aside I was really excited to get this baby inside. As I opened it and pulled it out of the box, the first thing I noticed was that everything was packed up very nicely for being a refurb from A4L. I had been so worried about it being beat up. Of course i still hadn't looked at the face of the unit and as I turned it around my heart began to sink. To my surprise the unit was in perfect condition. I was expecting at least a few scratches, but nothing at all. Not even a finger print. I was soooo relieved. I know about some of the horror stories from people buying refurbed units.

Long story short, this unit is great. Tons of power and features, it pushes my 100w legacy cerwin vega RE-20's with ease and really clean, even if it is a bit bright. I haven't had any problems at all, except for I had to rerun Audyssey because I was getting some hissing. It seems to be better now, but I’ll keep you updated. This is by far the best A/V you can get for the money. Period.

Congrats on the purchase....and on being pleased with the outcome of the sometimes crapshoot that buying a refurb can be. I''ve done it twice and have been pleased both times.

And I agree that the 180 is the best recevier deal around right now, new or refurb.
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post #3207 of 5396
7/2/10 at 8:29am
Just installed the 807 and have an hopefully easy question. When I am using Cab/Sat with the input / output assigned to HDMI, there is no audio, just picture. What do I need to change. Thanks Barry
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7/2/10 at 8:34am
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Originally Posted by barry1000 View Post

Just installed the 807 and have an hopefully easy question. When I am using Cab/Sat with the input / output assigned to HDMI, there is no audio, just picture. What do I need to change. Thanks Barry

You try a different cable? Cable/sat boxes have many handshake issues with receivers so you may want to run component cables with an optical cable.
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post #3209 of 5396
7/2/10 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by barry1000 View Post

Just installed the 807 and have an hopefully easy question. When I am using Cab/Sat with the input / output assigned to HDMI, there is no audio, just picture. What do I need to change. Thanks Barry

You probably need to get into the cable box set up menu and change the audio output setting from what it currently is (digital?) to HDMI. Hopefully that's it.
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post #3210 of 5396
7/2/10 at 10:00am
Mike ,I have hdmi comming out of the cable box, It works great it I go straight to the tv. Thanks Barry
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