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post #331 of 5476
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Originally Posted by stereowise View Post

First of all, I hope you are feeling better joerod.

You had great comments about the DCDi Cinema performance in the 807. I have read that the non-Reon based receivers have been lacking in video performance. But then I have also read that it was mostly the older DCDi Edge chips that were lacking in performance.

The 706 and 806 also use the DCDi Cinema chip. Would you say that their video performance was as good as that of the 807? Or is the implementation of the 807 much better? And how does the 807 video performance compare to that 876?

I was eyeing the 807, until I saw the specs forthe 1007. Now I am drooling over the 1007. I can justify the added cost of the 1007. I also looked at the 3007. It's features are also impressive, but the only thing that I would really want in the 3007 is the Reon chip. But i am not sure it is worth the extra money for the Reon chip, especially since I have the Oppo Blu-ray player. You're thoughts?

Also, will you also be reviewing the 1007?

Hi. I answered your PM but will also answer you here to. I can't really comment much on the 706 and 806 in regards to their video scaling. I did not review them since they were marginal (at best) over the previous gen. I as well as others felt the 806 was even behind the 805. Anyway, I will say the scaling is better on the 807/707 when compared to the previous Onkyo units. I would expect the 1007 to be right on par and be a terrific receiver. I just got home yesterday and I will admit I have not yet decided which unit will go next. Thanks for wishing me well.

So far I am batting a 1000 but I may just do the 3007, the new pre-pro and possibly the Denon 4810. I like the 1007 but to me it is a 807 on steroids with 9 channels. It would make sense to do an Onkyo unit with REON scaling next and of course the 9 channels. Anyone agree?
post #332 of 5476
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post


So far I am batting a 1000 but I may just do the 3007, the new pre-pro and possibly the Denon 4810. I like the 1007 but to me it is a 807 on steroids with 9 channels. It would make sense to do an Onkyo unit with REON scaling next and of course the 9 channels. Anyone agree?

Agreed.
post #333 of 5476
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Originally Posted by q of banditz View Post

agreed.

+2
post #334 of 5476
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Thanks guys.

Budget wise I am still wanting to get in a few projectors this Fall. I have pretty much taken a break from Blu ray players since there is not much movement in that category.
post #335 of 5476
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Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post

i recently changed from time warner cable to ATT u verse, NO HD channels at all. i guess im going to need a 3007.

I would kill myself. Get Dish Network! Tons of HD!
post #336 of 5476
I can confirm that the 807 does not pass through Component video while it is in standby. The unit must be powered on to pass component video. I have not tested HDMI yet because my downstairs TV does not have HDMI.
post #337 of 5476
Not sure if this has already been asked in any of the 80x threads... Apologies in advance if it has...

I have an 807 with a 7.1 speaker configuration. I'm wondering if I can use the Zone 2 terminals to power a set of outdoor speakers. When using these outdoor speakers I wouldn't be using the rest of the speakers so this should be okay, right?
post #338 of 5476
Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked. But, does the 807 do HDMI video upscaling to 1080p? If not, do any of the upcoming new releases (1000-3000 series)
post #339 of 5476
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Originally Posted by coachin2wine View Post

Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked. But, does the 807 do HDMI video upscaling to 1080p? If not, do any of the upcoming new releases (1000-3000 series)

HDMI 1080p yes.........
post #340 of 5476
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Thanks guys.

Budget wise I am still wanting to get in a few projectors this Fall. I have pretty much taken a break from Blu ray players since there is not much movement in that category.

That would be awesome. I have a Panasonic 900 that is only 720p. I am looking for a 1080p model, and was wondering how some of the entry level 1080p models compare to the 900.
post #341 of 5476
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Originally Posted by khill821 View Post

Not sure if this has already been asked in any of the 80x threads... Apologies in advance if it has...

I have an 807 with a 7.1 speaker configuration. I'm wondering if I can use the Zone 2 terminals to power a set of outdoor speakers. When using these outdoor speakers I wouldn't be using the rest of the speakers so this should be okay, right?

Yes, that is how it works. The manual explains it in detail.
post #342 of 5476
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Originally Posted by coachin2wine View Post

Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked. But, does the 807 do HDMI video upscaling to 1080p? If not, do any of the upcoming new releases (1000-3000 series)

Should have read the very first post (review).
post #343 of 5476
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Originally Posted by thomasamiller View Post

I can confirm that the 807 does not pass through Component video while it is in standby. The unit must be powered on to pass component video. I have not tested HDMI yet because my downstairs TV does not have HDMI.

It couldn't because it would need audio...
post #344 of 5476
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Originally Posted by stereowise View Post

That would be awesome. I have a Panasonic 900 that is only 720p. I am looking for a 1080p model, and was wondering how some of the entry level 1080p models compare to the 900.

You could grab one of last year's models for a great price since many new 1080p models are coming out. Like the panny 3000 since they just announced the 4000.
post #345 of 5476
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Thanks guys.

Budget wise I am still wanting to get in a few projectors this Fall. I have pretty much taken a break from Blu ray players since there is not much movement in that category.

Actually I will take back what I posted. I am squeezing in one more Blu ray player review for 2009. I plan to do the Sony BDP 1000ES Review by the end of this week.
post #346 of 5476
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Originally Posted by thomasamiller View Post

I can confirm that the 807 does not pass through Component video while it is in standby. The unit must be powered on to pass component video. I have not tested HDMI yet because my downstairs TV does not have HDMI.

It does pass HDMI (including audio) when not powered on, but not by default. There are a couple settings that have to be turned on first. Like passing the audio from hdmi to the tv (that's off by default) and then turning on the power control and tv control under hardware->hdmi setup.
post #347 of 5476
I read that the Burr Brown DAC. the 1690, is an 8 channel DAC. Are there any shortcomings or disadvantages to using 1 8-channel chip vs 8 individual DAC's? The schematic of the 1690 shows there are actually 8 DAC's inside the chip.

Just a curiousity, as I also have read one should not take the DAC solely into account when looking at receivers.

Thanks,
Tony
post #348 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Jinnai View Post

It does pass HDMI (including audio) when not powered on, but not by default. There are a couple settings that have to be turned on first. Like passing the audio from hdmi to the tv (that's off by default) and then turning on the power control and tv control under hardware->hdmi setup.

Thanks for this comment, but are you talking about the 807? Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything in the hardware/HDMI setup menu that in any way indicates that it enables HDMI to pass through when the receiver is powered off. Can you please clarify? So far, my 807 does not pass anything through when it's off...

Thanks,

Barry
post #349 of 5476
I just bought an 807 earlier today, and have already run into two problems. First, it went silent this evening for an extended period of time. Only after turning it off for about 1/2 hour did the audio output return. I keep it in a well ventilated TV stand. I really hope this is not an overheating issue, or I'm going to have to take it back. This is unacceptable. Has anyone else experienced this?

Second, once I turned it back on, I decided to audition The Fifth Element Blu Ray so I could hear what Dolby TruHD sounds like. When loading the disc, there are about a dozen times when the disc switches audio formats. For instance, on the menu, the various government warning screens, etc. Each time it changed, the receiver sent a signal to the sub, and the sub "thumped." This sounded like the "bad" type of thump when an amp is on when a component is turned on.

I'm really disappointed so far. Can anyone talk me off the ledge?

FYI -- I'm using a PS3 Slim outputting the Blu Ray in bitstream mode.


UPDATE: I returned this unit and replaced it with a Denon 3310. I know I paid more, but I got a good deal. I paid $1188, plus got 3 years free financing through Best Buy/Magnolia. Hopefully I'll have more luck with the Denon.
post #350 of 5476
First off, let me say that I am no expert when it comes to home theater. I just ordered the 807 to replace my 805 that was damaged in shipping even though I put $1000 insurance coverage on it (thanks ups).

My main question is about the lack of a 12v plug on the 807. I want to run an idealume light as well as a cooling fan, but am not sure how to set them up.

Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
post #351 of 5476
I think you mean 120V... a Smart Strip works great.
post #352 of 5476
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Originally Posted by kemac View Post

I think you mean 120V... a Smart Strip works great.

Yeah, 120v is right. I am running everything through a HTS 3600 power center, so I would like to have everything going through that. (mainly to avoid excess cords)
Does the smart strip work pretty well?
post #353 of 5476
It worked very well for me, I have noticed in both the XX6 and XX7 threads others recommeding them as welll. I have been using them for about a year on two seperate amps and they have worked fine.
post #354 of 5476
My lack of expertise is shining now.

I was referring to the additional plug-in on the back of the 805, I believe it is a 12v trigger on the 807. I had my idealume plugged into the outlet on the back of the 805 so it turned on with the receiver, I want to have that same setup with the 807.

What can I do to work around this on the 807?
post #355 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Cochese9266 View Post

My lack of expertise is shining now.

I was referring to the additional plug-in on the back of the 805, I believe it is a 12v trigger on the 807. I had my idealume plugged into the outlet on the back of the 805 so it turned on with the receiver, I want to have that same setup with the 807.

What can I do to work around this on the 807?

OK, your lights had me thinking you were talking 120V. There is not a 12v trigger for zone 1, only zone 2. you could use a smart strip with a 12V wall wart and accomplish the same thing thou.
post #356 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Cochese9266 View Post

My lack of expertise is shining now.

I was referring to the additional plug-in on the back of the 805, I believe it is a 12v trigger on the 807. I had my idealume plugged into the outlet on the back of the 805 so it turned on with the receiver, I want to have that same setup with the 807.

What can I do to work around this on the 807?

i noticed on my 807 that the 12volt triggers were for zones 2 & 3 only and with out a switched A/C outlet i'm kinda screwed as i use the 12volt trigger to turn on my monster power conditioner. having the receiver plugged into a smart plug kinda defeats the whole purpose......... in the grander scheme of things i could plug the smartstrip into the monster into a unswitched plug, then run a cord from the monster to the smartstrip into a switched plug, so when the smartstrip turns on it would trigger the monster to turn on it's switched outlets.... kinda funky but it would work....
post #357 of 5476
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Originally Posted by bkushin View Post

Thanks for this comment, but are you talking about the 807? Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything in the hardware/HDMI setup menu that in any way indicates that it enables HDMI to pass through when the receiver is powered off. Can you please clarify? So far, my 807 does not pass anything through when it's off...

Thanks,

Barry

The setup menu doesn't jump out and tell you how to enable this feature its a combination of options that needs to be set. The advanced setup section of the manual gets into the granular details.

As jinnai mentioned you to set audio TV out to on and enable HDMI control including the power control sub option. If you look up the "power control" notes in the manual it says when its on it will pass audio and video in standby and on mode. Not very intuitive is it? Good luck!
post #358 of 5476
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Originally Posted by kemac View Post

The setup menu doesn't jump out and tell you how to enable this feature its a combination of options that needs to be set. The advanced setup section of the manual gets into the granular details.

As jinnai mentioned you to set audio TV out to on and enable HDMI control including the power control sub option. If you look up the "power control" notes in the manual it says when its on it will pass audio and video in standby and on mode. Not very intuitive is it? Good luck!

Thanks! This helps - I'll check it out tomorrow. If this works it should take care of my "green" problem. For some reason, my TWC cable box outputs a VERY green picture through the component output. HDMI looks fine, just component has a green cast. I have it wired both to my TV directly (component) and to my receiver (HDMI) so I can watch news, etc.. without turning on my receiver. If I can just use HDMI through the receiver with it powered off/standby, then I can avoid component & a very green picture...

BTW, another strange thing on my 807 - the display on the receiver goes off - seemingly randomly. Is that normal? Haven't found anything in the manual on it yet. No change or loss of functionality, just the display goes dark. Comes back on for a minute if/when you press a control on the unit or remote & then blanks out again after a few seconds. Haven't really tracked it - seems kind of random, but could be consistent in some way. Anyone familiar with this?

Thanks,

Barry
post #359 of 5476
That sounds like the display behavior when you have Pure Audio selected as the listening mode. In this mode the display and video processing circuitry is turned off. If you change to another listening mode the display will stay on.
post #360 of 5476
I am having the most difficult time choosing receivers!! I am looking into either the Onkyo TX-NR807 or the Denon 3310 or perhaps 4310 but its a bit pricey! Any help would be aprreciated! Thanks
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