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post #3391 of 5396
7/23/10 at 9:03pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi gamekiller, most likely your Tv HDMI-CEC feature is turned ON. Go into Tv menu and turn the HDMI-CEC feature OFF. Some of HDMI-CEC trade names: Samsung is AnyNEt+, Panasonice is Viera Link, Pioneer is Kuro Link, Sony is Bravia Sync, etc...).

I have the same problem, it shows video from the hdmi input, but audio is from the tv/tape. Sure turning off the hdmi-cec feature on the tv and manually turning the receiver on works, but that defeats the purpose of the feature. I'm surprised there aren't more posts addressing this problem. I like the ability to set my tv timer to shut everything off when it goes off, or when I turn a device on it automatically turn the other components on.

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SA 8300HD-> HT-RC180->Samsung UN55C8000
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post #3392 of 5396
7/23/10 at 11:35pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

When using powered Zone 2 you loose rear surround capability. There is no "B" option as Onkyo chose to allow height/wide connection switching instead. If the patio speakers are connected (to the "rear surround" terminals, and you also have speakers connected to "Front Wide" or "Front Height" terminals you can cycle between them. The receiver only has 7 amplifiers so when running wide or height plus the other 5 (L/C/R/LS/RS) there's no power for Zone 2. There are no alternate powered Zone 2 terminals that also allow Rear Surround connections at the same time.

Yes, you can hook up the "side" speakers, they become "Surround" and they will allow you to have 5.1 and also run the patio as Zone 2....seven channels. If you also add in the 2 in-wall speakers behind the couch and connect them to "Rear Surround" you will have 7.1 but lose powered Zone 2.

Just to make sure I understand:
So you are saying I can run center, front, front wide, & surround(even if these are my rear speakers ) for 7.1 while I have my patio speakers connected.
and if I have zone 2 turned on, I'd drop down to 5.1 ?
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post #3393 of 5396
7/24/10 at 3:30am
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Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

Just to make sure I understand:
So you are saying I can run center, front, front wide, & surround(even if these are my rear speakers ) for 7.1 while I have my patio speakers connected.
and if I have zone 2 turned on, I'd drop down to 5.1 ?

Yes, exactly, but your "rear speakers" are "surrounds" instead. Here's the quote form the manual:
Connecting Your Zone 2 Speakers Directly
to the AV receiver
This setup allows 5.1-channel playback in your main
room and 2-channel stereo playback in Zone 2, with a
different source in each room. This is called Powered
Zone 2, as the Zone 2 speakers are powered by the AV
receiver. Note that when Powered Zone 2 is turned off,
you can enjoy 7.1-channel playback in your main room.

The 7.1 playback mentioned cannot include "rear surrounds" though since they can't be connected when powered zone 2 speakers are connected.

Here's the link to the manual, there's a diagram on page 115 that explains multi-zone use....might want to read through the whole section several times, can be confusing.
http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...146825145c375d

Here's another interesting document.....check the comments and diagram on page 20 about surround placement. Even if your in-wall speakers are not located in the defined range you might find it very enjoyable since the surrounds are more for effect and ambience.
http://www2.grammy.com/PDFs/Recordin...mendations.pdf
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post #3394 of 5396
7/24/10 at 3:43am
hey guys,

i have set-up a CPU connected to my onk[video connected via HDMI at "Game" Port and audio connected via rca (red and white) cable via "Game Port" also]. When i try to play a movie through VLC, Windows Media Player or Winamp Video Player, the AUDIO turns on and off as if it is trying to search for audio input.

I have set my setting in my onk @ All stereo, however I change the listening mode the audio keeps turning on and off

anyone has the same experience?

helpppppppppp!
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post #3395 of 5396
7/24/10 at 4:32am
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Originally Posted by marlon1925 View Post

hey guys,

i have set-up a CPU connected to my onk[video connected via HDMI at "Game" Port and audio connected via rca (red and white) cable via "Game Port" also]. When i try to play a movie through VLC, Windows Media Player or Winamp Video Player, the AUDIO turns on and off as if it is trying to search for audio input.

I have set my setting in my onk @ All stereo, however I change the listening mode the audio keeps turning on and off

anyone has the same experience?

helpppppppppp!

Try SETUP->Input/Output Assign->Digital Audio Input-> GAME and make sure it's set to "-----"

EDITED to add the missing step

It might still be set to a digital default like OPT1 and the receiver is searching for a digtal input....and you're connection is analog.
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post #3396 of 5396
7/24/10 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

I am considering getting the rc-180(and returning the Pioneer Elite vsx-31 I just got since the 180 is about $140 cheaper) and have a couple of questions:.

BTW...if you didn't purchase yet, OneCall just dropped their price again:
http://www.onecall.com/product/Onkyo...iver/_/R-99863
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post #3397 of 5396
7/24/10 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by Limp Fox View Post

I just finally got around to re-running Audyssey after hooking up a Emotiva XPA 5 amp. I ran Audyssey with the subs off since ED reccommends it this way. I currently am running 5.2 and took out the other 2 speakers b/c my room is to small for a 7.2 at this time. Below are my results.

Front = Full Band
Center = 60hz
Surround = 150hz

FL = -7.0DB
FR = -5.0DB
C = -6.0DB
SL = -6.0DB
SR = -3.5DB

Does it look like I should mess with anything? I figured since I will now be turning on the subs and since Audyssey did not reconize them due to them being off I'd want to change my crossover hz to 40hz or so on the speakers so the subs get all the bass. Is this correct? If not what is the correct steps to take?

Thanks
Judd

Judd, I wanted to thank you for asking about the crossover settings. That and helping set up his new 807 caused me to rethink my previous advice and most things I've read for years. So, I spent many hours trying to tweak my crossover settings using a variety of music and film and reset my crossovers to below 80hz.

I then decided to toe my main speakers differently and reran Audyssey. Audyssey's/ Onkyo's settings ended up being almost exactly what I'd chosen by ear. I think I'll listen for some time and decide whether the universal 80hz is better or my current settings are better. I'm leaning towards the current ones.

After I tinkered with it, I found these and think them informative.

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/ge...gs-made-simple

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/ge...st-performance
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post #3398 of 5396
7/24/10 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

BTW...if you didn't purchase yet, OneCall just dropped their price again:
http://www.onecall.com/product/Onkyo...iver/_/R-99863

I noticed that at amazon, which is why I am likely to swap my Pio Elite vsx-31 for this since its about $130 cheaper and seems to have more features.

Thanks kmike, you have been extremely helpful!
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post #3399 of 5396
7/24/10 at 8:33am
Looked through the manual but it wasn't very clear..
I know there is a limitation that powered zones 2&3 can only be analog inputs, but...
Is the Ethernet considered an analog or digital input? ie. can I listen to pandora or streamed music in Zone 2 from the ethernet connection?

What about the Ipod dock? can that be zone 2 or 3?
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post #3400 of 5396
7/24/10 at 9:13am
Fry's has the 807 for $100 more if you can find one.
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post #3401 of 5396
7/24/10 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

The heat on my 807 goes out the top right rear. If you could leave an empty space between units, providing your rack could accomdate that set up, would be a bonus. Plus, I have two dual fans on top, this keeps my receiver nice and cool.

The fans I use are these; http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html

Thx Geoffrey, got your message...but your email was incorrect. Typo?
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post #3402 of 5396
7/24/10 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Try SETUP->Input/Output Assign->Digital Audio Input-> GAME and make sure it's set to "-----"

EDITED to add the missing step

It might still be set to a digital default like OPT1 and the receiver is searching for a digtal input....and you're connection is analog.


ive done setting it up in the input/output assign>Game

however the problem is still there and I can see on the OSD in the Onk as the audio turns on and off the audio source keeps on changing from "ANALOG" to "HDMI"

help please??
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post #3403 of 5396
7/24/10 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by marlon1925 View Post

ive done setting it up in the input/output assign>Game

however the problem is still there and I can see on the OSD in the Onk as the audio turns on and off the audio source keeps on changing from "ANALOG" to "HDMI"

help please??

Maybe you have HDMI Audio TV Out set to "On" so you can listen to one of your HDMI audio sources through your TV speakers? If so, the receiver is trying to pass HDMI audio signal to your TV but there isn't any but it expects one for all HDMI inputs. To check:

Setup->Hardware Setup->HDMI-> Audio TV Out-> set it to OFF and see what happens.
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post #3404 of 5396
7/24/10 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

Looked through the manual but it wasn't very clear..
I know there is a limitation that powered zones 2&3 can only be analog inputs, but...
Is the Ethernet considered an analog or digital input? ie. can I listen to pandora or streamed music in Zone 2 from the ethernet connection?

What about the Ipod dock? can that be zone 2 or 3?

Ethernet is digital unfortunately. I think most iPod docs have an analog pair of RCA jacks as a cabling option...I have one from Denon that does, also uses composite for video. It's also possible that Onkyo docs that have the Universal Connector will be considered analog but you would have to check.
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post #3405 of 5396
7/24/10 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Maybe you have HDMI Audio TV Out set to "On" so you can listen to one of your HDMI audio sources through your TV speakers? If so, the receiver is trying to pass HDMI audio signal to your TV but there isn't any but it expects one for all HDMI inputs. To check:

Setup->Hardware Setup->HDMI-> Audio TV Out-> set it to OFF and see what happens.

thanks sir mike but when I check my settings it was already set to "OFF"

btw, i am using a projector

i wonder what the problem really is
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post #3406 of 5396
7/24/10 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by marlon1925 View Post

thanks sir mike but when I check my settings it was already set to "OFF"

btw, i am using a projector

i wonder what the problem really is

You might re-check the audio output from your CPU....suspect that there is some audio signal in the HDMI output and it needs to be turned off if you're going to connect audio via analog. Is there a reason wjy you're not using HDMI for audio from the CPU in the first place?
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post #3407 of 5396
7/24/10 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Ethernet is digital unfortunately. I think most iPod docs have an analog pair of RCA jacks as a cabling option...I have one from Denon that does, also uses composite for video. It's also possible that Onkyo docs that have the Universal Connector will be considered analog but you would have to check.

That lack of internet radio to zone 2 is unfortunate, because that was one of the features I was looking to use... I believe I can use internet radio for zone 2 on the vsx-31.
I'll have to do more research
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post #3408 of 5396
7/24/10 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

That lack of internet radio to zone 2 is unfortunate, because that was one of the features I was looking to use... I believe I can use internet radio for zone 2 on the vsx-31.
I'll have to do more research

I believe that you can listen to internet radio or streaming into zone 2
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post #3409 of 5396
7/24/10 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

That lack of internet radio to zone 2 is unfortunate, because that was one of the features I was looking to use... I believe I can use internet radio for zone 2 on the vsx-31.
I'll have to do more research

Well, here's an idea I'll throw out and maybe someone who has tried this or is more knowledgaable will say NFW or "hey, that will work"... I don't know.

If you wanted to listen to iRadio in the main room AND zone 2 at the same time, the main pre outs are analog the front L/R could be connected to an analog input, say TV/Tape In. This analog source could them play in zone 2.

Does anyone know if this would work? Are there any other workarounds to get iRadio working in Zone2/3?
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post #3410 of 5396
7/24/10 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by drunkmunk View Post

I believe that you can listen to internet radio or streaming into zone 2

Anyone actiually doing this? The formats coming across ethernet are all digital (MP3, WMA, FLAC, etc.) and zone 2/3 require analog input. I suspect it's a DAC limitation.
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post #3411 of 5396
7/24/10 at 9:01pm
hey guys i'm looking to replace my cheap $9 Table Fan which is 150mm for this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20kaze%203000


now my questions are:

1) should i really replace this 150mm for a 120 mm even though it is a bigger fan but i do not know it's other specs like noise level and airflow?


2) how will i go about wiring the fan? links please (if possible)

i will also be considering using 2 or more additional fans of the same model above. 1 for my fat ps3 and another for a 360 so i would need to be able to power 3 or more fans. i might even buy another extra fan to give my laptop more cooling (even though i have a cooling pad under it already). I'm trying to find the cheapest route possible as i will be looking at 3+ fans alone (at $10 each). Hopefully under $50 total.
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post #3412 of 5396
7/24/10 at 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by wilmer007 View Post

hey guys i'm looking to replace my cheap $9 Table Fan which is 150mm for this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20kaze%203000

Did you see all the negative comments about how loud this fan is?
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post #3413 of 5396
7/24/10 at 11:28pm
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Originally Posted by wilmer007 View Post

hey guys i'm looking to replace my cheap $9 Table Fan which is 150mm for this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20kaze%203000


now my questions are:

1) should i really replace this 150mm for a 120 mm even though it is a bigger fan but i do not know it's other specs like noise level and airflow?


2) how will i go about wiring the fan? links please (if possible)

i will also be considering using 2 or more additional fans of the same model above. 1 for my fat ps3 and another for a 360 so i would need to be able to power 3 or more fans. i might even buy another extra fan to give my laptop more cooling (even though i have a cooling pad under it already). I'm trying to find the cheapest route possible as i will be looking at 3+ fans alone (at $10 each). Hopefully under $50 total.

The fan you linked list a noise Level of 45.90dB, that's not quiet at all and would probably get pretty annoying after a while, although if your use to listening to a table fan maybe not. I'd say in general look for fans in the 25dB and lower range with a good ratio to airflow. You're not trying to cool the room just create enough airflow to keep temps down.

Check out the link below. The prices are a wee bit higher than buying just a case fan but they've already been modded for the specific application either USB or AC and some come with fan controllers.

http://www.buyextras.com/reco.html

You can also find modded fans on ebay.
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post #3414 of 5396
7/25/10 at 12:38am
Actually i'm getting a media center cabinet for free soon so i'll be sticking the 360, ps3 and av receiver in the cabinet. So i've been searching around and i might get 8-12 of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150007



Would that be overkill? i mean i do get 8 of them for $18.15 shipped. I'm thinking 4 to pull hot air out and 4 to blow cool air in.

So now how do i go about connecting all these fans together? Links....
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post #3415 of 5396
7/25/10 at 1:56am
As I posted earlier I just installed this:http://www.buyextras.com/cafankitwosc.html
My receiver is now almost cold. I used the AC adapter and plugged the fans into a smart (green) surge protector. I used my MIts 73737 as the master since it's on anytime my AVR is on. The MIts also has a fan that runs for a short time after it's turned off, once the TV fan shuts down so do the AVR fans so it works out perfect. This way they run for a short time after the AVR is turned off.
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post #3416 of 5396
7/25/10 at 3:29am
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

You might re-check the audio output from your CPU....suspect that there is some audio signal in the HDMI output and it needs to be turned off if you're going to connect audio via analog. Is there a reason wjy you're not using HDMI for audio from the CPU in the first place?


HDMI out i only available for my video card, sound card is built in on board which has only analog out
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post #3417 of 5396
7/25/10 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by marlon1925 View Post

HDMI out i only available for my video card, sound card is built in on board which has only analog out

You have to go into your BIOS on the PC (some MoBo's will let you do this in the device manager ) & disable the on-board audio before the MoBo will send audio to your Video card which will send audio down the HDMI to your A/V
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post #3418 of 5396
7/25/10 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Anyone actiually doing this? The formats coming across ethernet are all digital (MP3, WMA, FLAC, etc.) and zone 2/3 require analog input. I suspect it's a DAC limitation.

Both the ipod dock and streaming from a server work in zone 2. Haven't
tried internet radio, but I would guess that would work as well
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post #3419 of 5396
7/25/10 at 11:24am
My reciever RC180 uses about 50 watts when in standby mode, anyway to fix this?

Or is that just that way its going to be?
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post #3420 of 5396
7/25/10 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by squeeks View Post

My reciever RC180 uses about 50 watts when in standby mode, anyway to fix this?

Or is that just that way its going to be?

these are very popular to shut everything off when not in use:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=...72&rnid=468240


i will actually be buying one of these soon. you can basically connect the TV/AVR to the blue one. A VCR/DVR and router/modem to the red ones and then everything else to the normal ones. When the tv is turned off everything that's not plugged into red will turn off at the same time like if you unplugged them from the wall and not in standby. saving on the electricity bill every month.
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