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post #3451 of 5476
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Originally Posted by eieio View Post

Hi All:

I'm thinking of using my current 807 in my future bedroom when i move (~ 2 months).

i recall reading recently (but can no longer find this in the manual) that for Zone 2, you MUST only use analog input sources!!! That would be very odd. Very few customers use analog input sources nowadays.

my input source for CNN would be the Verizon Fios TV HD decoder box (i will use the Verizon Fios TV Home Media DVR "whole house dvr" in the living room, and the HD decoder for my bedroom will talk to the living room Home Media DVR and be able to watch programs from its hard drive, but not ask it to record).

therefore, my input source for Zone 2 will clearly be digital from the HD decoder box.

does anyone here see a problem with what i wish to do?

thx in advance.

Most receicers that have Powered Zone 2 only use Analog Inputs. In order to get your Verizon Fios to play in Zone 2, you would need to run rca audio cables to the 807(assuming the Verizon box can output analog audio like that, I don't know if it does).
Other way would be to use a receiver that had a Speaker B option, but the 807 doesn't support that.
post #3452 of 5476
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Originally Posted by atmusky View Post

I have had that problem once. I shut off the receiver pulled the network cable and plugged it back in then turned the receiver back on and it connected to the Network properly.

Is this a common issue?

Thanks,

atmusky

Yup, that worked for me, thanks!

I had it come up again.
Keep Network switch powered up.
Use front panel power switch to standby on NR807.
Disconnect network Cat5 cable, leave disconnected.
Use front panel power switch to power up NR807.
Connect network Cat5 cable.
Should initialize at that point.
post #3453 of 5476
If someone had the Onkyo HT-RC180 in an audio rack with only 1 inch above the receiver but completely open ends on the front, back, and sides, would that be enough breathing room for this receiver? I have never had any problems with any receivers in the past at all but I know the Onkyo HT-RC180 is about 1 inch taller than my receiver now and they are known for getting hot. I have heard opinions that say this wont work to others who claim they have onkyos as big as this enclosed on all sides less than an inch and have never had a problem. Someone that knows please give me your opinions. $499 is a great price for this right now and I possibly will be getting one. It will be replacing an Denon AVR987 (same as the 2807). Sound quality and power should be better, should it not?

thanks guys...

thanks very much.
post #3454 of 5476
I'd rig an exhaust fan to be safe. FWIW, I had a smaller receiver with that clearance and while it doesn't have the power of the 807, it could get warm. The fan made it so the housing stayed cool, so I think there is merit.
post #3455 of 5476
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Originally Posted by eieio View Post

Hi All:

I'm thinking of using my current 807 in my future bedroom when i move (~ 2 months).

5.1 in the bedroom, thinking of doing Zone 2 in the bathroom for listening to CNN when i shower and brush my teeth. I found a Boston Acoustic single woofer w/2 tweeters speaker that is so-called stereo, i.e. you hook up both left and right to that one speaker and it combines the bass/mid into the single woofer and uses 2 separate tweeters for the left and right.

i recall reading recently (but can no longer find this in the manual) that for Zone 2, you MUST only use analog input sources!!! That would be very odd. Very few customers use analog input sources nowadays.

my input source for CNN would be the Verizon Fios TV HD decoder box (i will use the Verizon Fios TV Home Media DVR "whole house dvr" in the living room, and the HD decoder for my bedroom will talk to the living room Home Media DVR and be able to watch programs from its hard drive, but not ask it to record).

therefore, my input source for Zone 2 will clearly be digital from the HD decoder box.

does anyone here see a problem with what i wish to do?

thx in advance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

Most receicers that have Powered Zone 2 only use Analog Inputs. In order to get your Verizon Fios to play in Zone 2, you would need to run rca audio cables to the 807(assuming the Verizon box can output analog audio like that, I don't know if it does).
Other way would be to use a receiver that had a Speaker B option, but the 807 doesn't support that.

May I ask if there are other opinions, actual experience, on this? Thx!
post #3456 of 5476
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Originally Posted by eieio View Post

May I ask if there are other opinions, actual experience, on this? Thx!

Well, since I figured out that iRadio via ethernet can be considered "analog" for zone2 I've been curious about other signal sources as well. If I get a chance later this afternoon I'll connect up those spare speakers again and see what happens with my HDMI cable box input.

There's another thing I want to try too...connecting a pair of pre amp outputs a set of analog inputs to see if the receiver considers that analog for zone 2.

I'll let you know what heppens.
post #3457 of 5476
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Originally Posted by BAMAVADER View Post

If someone had the Onkyo HT-RC180 in an audio rack with only 1 inch above the receiver but completely open ends on the front, back, and sides, would that be enough breathing room for this receiver? I have never had any problems with any receivers in the past at all but I know the Onkyo HT-RC180 is about 1 inch taller than my receiver now and they are known for getting hot. I have heard opinions that say this wont work to others who claim they have onkyos as big as this enclosed on all sides less than an inch and have never had a problem. Someone that knows please give me your opinions. $499 is a great price for this right now and I possibly will be getting one. It will be replacing an Denon AVR987 (same as the 2807). Sound quality and power should be better, should it not?

thanks guys...

thanks very much.

No, That's about what I had and I installed this on the shelf above it:http://www.buyextras.com/cafankitwosc.html before it was so hot you couldn't leave your hand on it, now it's almost cold. I had an older Onkyo with no problems in the same space.
post #3458 of 5476
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Originally Posted by BAMAVADER View Post

If someone had the Onkyo HT-RC180 in an audio rack with only 1 inch above the receiver but completely open ends on the front, back, and sides, would that be enough breathing room for this receiver? I have never had any problems with any receivers in the past at all but I know the Onkyo HT-RC180 is about 1 inch taller than my receiver now and they are known for getting hot. I have heard opinions that say this wont work to others who claim they have onkyos as big as this enclosed on all sides less than an inch and have never had a problem. Someone that knows please give me your opinions. $499 is a great price for this right now and I possibly will be getting one. It will be replacing an Denon AVR987 (same as the 2807). Sound quality and power should be better, should it not?

thanks guys...

thanks very much.

Mine is about 1.5 inches on all sides, besides that at the back it have the wall (maybe 3 inches) and in the front it have my bed xD, and let me tell you it gets hot, a friend here have a notebook cooler in the top, is a solution if you are on a budget and it works.
post #3459 of 5476
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Well, since I figured out that iRadio via ethernet can be considered "analog" for zone2 I've been curious about other signal sources as well. If I get a chance later this afternoon I'll connect up those spare speakers again and see what happens with my HDMI cable box input.

There's another thing I want to try too...connecting a pair of pre amp outputs a set of analog inputs to see if the receiver considers that analog for zone 2.

I'll let you know what heppens.

Things I learned today about Zone2:
1) The manual is right...digtal inputs will not work.
2) Connecting from a pre out to an analog input like Game In is not an analog connection....there's no line level conversion going on...again, just what the manual says.
3) The Zone 2 volume is a total crap shoot as there's no visual indication that anything is changing up or down when you're adjusting it so you better be able to hear it or ELSE!!
4) It's best not to be holding the simulated Zone 2 speaker in your hand when you finally do get an analog input selected....because when ELSE happens it just might be VERY DAMN LOUD
post #3460 of 5476
Help!!!!

i have been trying to log in to vtuner to set up my internet radio, but i can't get in : http://onkyo.vtuner.com/setupapp/onk...gin/SignIn.asp

this is my mac ID: XX:XX:XX-XX:XX:XX what should be the correct format? i have been trying different combo but still, I can't get through. I am always getting this: The ID # you entered was not found. Please make sure that you have entered it correctly.

It seems that the mac ID I found in the "Network" setting of my onk is not accepted in the website. Anyone has the same problem?

help please!!!
post #3461 of 5476
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Originally Posted by faheyd View Post

Yup, that worked for me, thanks!

I had it come up again.
Keep Network switch powered up.
Use front panel power switch to standby on NR807.
Disconnect network Cat5 cable, leave disconnected.
Use front panel power switch to power up NR807.
Connect network Cat5 cable.
Should initialize at that point.

Thanks for the tip,the key is powering off and on with the RECEIVERS power button as opposed to the remote button.
I wasn't able to connect to the internet until I powered up and down off the receiver.
Only problem is,we shouldn't have to do this.
Some kind of software glitch.
Denon's 4310 has major issues with connectivity to the net.
Thanks again
Regards,Len
post #3462 of 5476
Issues with Harmony 670 controlling the Onkyo.

The "Audio" function on the receiver is not controlled by the Harmony. When I hit "Audio" on the Harmony it displays "Bass" but will not allow me to adjust it with the left/right direction buttons. Also can not get beyond the "Bass" setting. Whin I use the up/down button to proceed to other "Audio" functions like "Center" it will not work.

I have tried the Value in "Data Base", tried learning from my Onkyo remote and tried learning "Raw". Nothing allows me to use the "Audio" function with the Harmony.

Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks,
Henry
post #3463 of 5476
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Originally Posted by marlon1925 View Post

Help!!!!

i have been trying to log in to vtuner to set up my internet radio, but i can't get in : http://onkyo.vtuner.com/setupapp/onk...gin/SignIn.asp

this is my mac ID: XX:XX:XX-XX:XX:XX what should be the correct format? i have been trying different combo but still, I can't get through. I am always getting this: The ID # you entered was not found. Please make sure that you have entered it correctly.

It seems that the mac ID I found in the "Network" setting of my onk is not accepted in the website. Anyone has the same problem?

help please!!!

Marlon...try it again, all lower case.....no colons, no hyphen, no spaces, just alphanumeric.
post #3464 of 5476
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Originally Posted by BAMAVADER View Post

If someone had the Onkyo HT-RC180 in an audio rack with only 1 inch above the receiver but completely open ends on the front, back, and sides, would that be enough breathing room for this receiver?

thanks guys...

thanks very much.

I just relocated my set up into my new wife's house. Her room is sized different from mine in the way that I lose a foot on depth but gain 3 on width. I was having fun configuring in my mind the new set up with more room however, my tiny mind was not figuring in the fact that my wife has bedroom stuff too, DOHHHH!!!

So, where is the receiver (TX-NR807)? In the corner of the room mounted above the Master bath entrance. The shelf is supported by the bath room door frame and 3 large shelf brackets on the adjacent wall (photos soon).

The result is about one inch between the top of the 807 and the ceiling, just enough clearance to get my two dual fans with side exiting exhaust on top and have 1/4 inch to spare.

So far so good.
post #3465 of 5476
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

Issues with Harmony 670 controlling the Onkyo.

The "Audio" function on the receiver is not controlled by the Harmony. When I hit "Audio" on the Harmony it displays "Bass" but will not allow me to adjust it with the left/right direction buttons. Also can not get beyond the "Bass" setting. Whin I use the up/down button to proceed to other "Audio" functions like "Center" it will not work.

I have tried the Value in "Data Base", tried learning from my Onkyo remote and tried learning "Raw". Nothing allows me to use the "Audio" function with the Harmony.

Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks,
Henry

I had the same problem so I called harmony and they fixed it while I was on the phone with them.
post #3466 of 5476
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Originally Posted by WSZsr View Post

I had the same problem so I called harmony and they fixed it while I was on the phone with them.

Thank you. I will give them a call.

Henry
post #3467 of 5476
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Originally Posted by marlon1925 View Post

is this possible sir? my sound card sending the audio to the video card?


anyone please help me? whenever I play video files on my cpu which is connected to my receiver the audio keeps turning on and off, the Onk seems to search for the audio input from the HDMI connection I am using for my video card. By the way I am using rca cable connection for my sound card [on board, realtek]. Whenever I get no audio, the "HDMI" on the right side of the OSD on the receiver keeps blinking.

Is there a way to stop the receiver from searching for audio signal from the HDMI connection [connected to my video card]?

Anyone encountered similar problem?

HELP!!!
post #3468 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

You have to go into your BIOS on the PC (some MoBo's will let you do this in the device manager ) & disable the on-board audio before the MoBo will send audio to your Video card which will send audio down the HDMI to your A/V

i have tried to disable it via device manager.....now im getting no audio at all
post #3469 of 5476
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Things I learned today about Zone2:
1) The manual is right...digtal inputs will not work.
2) Connecting from a pre out to an analog input like Game In is not an analog connection....there's no line level conversion going on...again, just what the manual says.
3) The Zone 2 volume is a total crap shoot as there's no visual indication that anything is changing up or down when you're adjusting it so you better be able to hear it or ELSE!!
4) It's best not to be holding the simulated Zone 2 speaker in your hand when you finally do get an analog input selected....because when ELSE happens it just might be VERY DAMN LOUD

So what 'analog' inputs actually work with zone 2 (zone 3)? Are you saying if I have a sat rcvr connected to the Obkyo with HDMI audio playing back it that audio will not transfer through to zone 2?

How about that same sat rcvr but this time connected with a pair of RCA L/R stereo cables?

Thanks,
post #3470 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

So what 'analog' inputs actually work with zone 2 (zone 3)? Are you saying if I have a sat rcvr connected to the Obkyo with HDMI audio playing back it that audio will not transfer through to zone 2?

How about that same sat rcvr but this time connected with a pair of RCA L/R stereo cables?

Thanks,

zone 2 cannot play any signals coming through hdmi, fiber optic or digital coax
any source that is hooked up with a pair of RCA cables will play in zone 2 as well as network streaming.
post #3471 of 5476
Quote:
Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

Issues with Harmony 670 controlling the Onkyo.

The "Audio" function on the receiver is not controlled by the Harmony. When I hit "Audio" on the Harmony it displays "Bass" but will not allow me to adjust it with the left/right direction buttons. Also can not get beyond the "Bass" setting. Whin I use the up/down button to proceed to other "Audio" functions like "Center" it will not work.

I have tried the Value in "Data Base", tried learning from my Onkyo remote and tried learning "Raw". Nothing allows me to use the "Audio" function with the Harmony.

Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks,
Henry

I think a quick check in your owners manual about how these functions actually works on your onkyo remote might lend some insight. I just learned on mine that once you're in that audio feature the direction buttons on the onkyo remote even do not function for what you are asking it to do. On my remote there are a separate set of buttons on the bottom near the audio button that are labeled "channel + and -" and those allow scrolling thru the various channels (speaker positions) in your setup to adjust the trim levels without going into the setup menu. So on your harmony remote you will probably have to go into the customize buttons setup and pick specific buttons on your harmony remote that you want to assign to the task.
post #3472 of 5476
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Originally Posted by drunkmunk View Post

zone 2 cannot play any signals coming through hdmi, fiber optic or digital coax
any source that is hooked up with a pair of RCA cables will play in zone 2 as well as network streaming.

Thanks for the clarification, that is too bad that playing back a CD connected via digital audio falls into this exclusion...

I would assume that the tuner (FM radio) output would be available too?
post #3473 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Thanks for the clarification, that is too bad that playing back a CD connected via digital audio falls into this exclusion...

I would assume that the tuner (FM radio) output would be available too?

Yes, the FM tuner works as a selectable input for zone 2.
post #3474 of 5476
Hi, I have 6 more days before I need to return an 807 to Onkyo. I opened the box but did not remove as I decided to go hdmi 1.4. You can have it for the lowest price that onkyo ever sold it for. It is a steal. Pm me, Thanks, Scott
post #3475 of 5476
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Yes, the FM tuner works as a selectable input for zone 2.

How about a sat rcvr but this time connected with a pair of RCA L/R stereo cables?

Thanks,
post #3476 of 5476
I know this seems like a noob question but I can't figure out how to get the current volume setting of my 805 to show up on my display, I was sure I had done this before, whenever I changed the volume it popped up and then went away after a moment. I seem to remember deactivating it because I didn't like it. Now I want to put the avr out of site and use an IR repeater, but this sort of necessitates the on screen volume display. I have my "OSD" set to "on", 16:9 tv, and position to "bottom" but I get no volume display. The menus and everything are seen normally on the display I just lost track of the volume heads up. What am I missing?
post #3477 of 5476
I thought of something else I have never been certain about (and the manual is less than forthcoming on the topic) and it regards the Pure Audio mode. When this is selected is audyssey still active? I know if the Audyssey thingy shows up on the avr display it is active but with pure audio the whole display turns off so I can't be sure exactly what's happening. Acoustically it's hard for me to tell by ear as there is a 2-3 second audio drop when switching pure audio off and on and by then a different sound is being produced by the source and I can't compare any differences. I know that if "direct" is selected that's just like turning audyssey off and the flat, un-eq'd sound is sent out to the various channels (a.k.a. little signal processing). But I have never been sure what effect pure audio has on the sound reproduction. Do any of you use it or do any of you dislike it? Or I guess more importantly, do any of you know if audyssey is still used when pure audio is active or if it has any negative effects on the audio signal (i.e. alters it in some way...)?
post #3478 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

How about a sat rcvr but this time connected with a pair of RCA L/R stereo cables?

Thanks,

Al, that should work....provided you unassign any digital input that would conflict since the receiver will prioritize a digital signal over analog. An alternative would be to leave the SAT digital connection (if there is one) properly assigned and connect the SAT's RCA connectors to the "Game" analog terminal, then select "Game" as the zone 2 input for SAT audio.

My cable box keeps RCA analog out active at all times, even when using HDMI audio or digital.optical out. So I could have the TV going and, if connected as mentioned above, also select "Game" for zone 2 and hear the same audio through the analog feed.
post #3479 of 5476
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Originally Posted by Sideofpotatos View Post

I thought of something else I have never been certain about (and the manual is less than forthcoming on the topic) and it regards the Pure Audio mode. When this is selected is audyssey still active? I know if the Audyssey thingy shows up on the avr display it is active but with pure audio the whole display turns off so I can't be sure exactly what's happening. Acoustically it's hard for me to tell by ear as there is a 2-3 second audio drop when switching pure audio off and on and by then a different sound is being produced by the source and I can't compare any differences. I know that if "direct" is selected that's just like turning audyssey off and the flat, un-eq'd sound is sent out to the various channels (a.k.a. little signal processing). But I have never been sure what effect pure audio has on the sound reproduction. Do any of you use it or do any of you dislike it? Or I guess more importantly, do any of you know if audyssey is still used when pure audio is active or if it has any negative effects on the audio signal (i.e. alters it in some way...)?

If you push the display button at the top of the remote when using Pure Audio mode it will turn the display back on for a brief few seconds. Audyssey is not being used according to the display. Just L/R channels, and (Bi-amp) if applicable.
post #3480 of 5476
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Originally Posted by kmike View Post

Al, that should work....provided you unassign any digital input that would conflict since the receiver will prioritize a digital signal over analog. An alternative would be to leave the SAT digital connection (if there is one) properly assigned and connect the SAT's RCA connectors to the "Game" analog terminal, then select "Game" as the zone 2 input for SAT audio.

My cable box keeps RCA analog out active at all times, even when using HDMI audio or digital.optical out. So I could have the TV going and, if connected as mentioned above, also select "Game" for zone 2 and hear the same audio through the analog feed.

kmike, et al:

i'm in a very similar position. i will consolidate my living room and my bedroom av equipment in one rack near the living room in a closet. the main two items will be the 1007 (for living room) and the 807 (for bedroom).

the bedroom is sufficiently far away that we'll likely have to use "baluns for HDMI over CAT 6" to get the signal there. i'll use a Verizon Fios TV Home Media DVR (their "whole house" dvr) for my living room, and a Verizon Fios TV HD decoder box for my bedroom (though this HD decoder box talks to the Home media DVR and can view recorded programs on it but not command it to record something). All equipment will be in the single rack in a closet near the living room.

i will have 5.1 in-wall in my bedroom, and the tv will be a Sony hung on the wall. i also will have a ceiling mounted humidity protected speaker in the bathroom of my bedroom, my thinking is that i'll get to listen to CNN while showering. well, this is exactly where kmike's situation and mine are similar - i need to find out if the Verizon HD decoder box has analog output that is "always on" so Zone 2 of the 807 can be used to power the bathroom ceiling speakers.

ugh. more research into the Verizon Fios TV HD box.
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