Originally Posted by dannylsgr8
i'm on my second onkyo txnr809 . at times when starting a blue ray disc no dialog from the center speaker, all the other effects, sound effects , music, are still there. upon checking the avr display it will say input 2.0 pcm, and the ps3 display will say dtshdma 5.1. if i stop and restart the movie, it will work fine. also it would read input 5.1 on a 7.1 input. the first 809 did this frequently. i have an older fat ps3, to get the high end lossless audio it is necessary to use the linear tracks. this was never a problem on my sony strdg820. so i blamed the 809 and returned it. the second 809 i have had for 2 months and it just now started reading 2.0 when it should say 5.1. so i'm freaking out, i need my avr to last. i then see the sc27 for $736 at 6th ave. i start thinking maybe the pioneer sc27 would work better. i called amazon, just fishing to see if i still had options, and even though it has been almost 2 months they will give me a full refund, because i had trouble with the first 809 . and even more, they will authorise ups pickup . to be fair the 809 reads the tv fine, no problem with the old hddvd player. i use hdmi for ps3 and hddvd, for the tv audio output an optical connector. the onkyo puts the sony 820 to shame for sound. i use the avr for everything , so it gets used. i have 7.1 setup. i always bought pioneer in the past. so basically i was hoping to get some good advice from some smart people.
The initial Info, like menus / previews on BD's maybe in 2.0. When the movie starts the AVR should select the correct audio codec, for whatever audio format you selected in the movie top menu, and should see it immediately on the front of the AVR (most anyway), Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio or PCM (Uncompressed), Dolby Digital, Etc. That's what an SC-37 does, and all the other AVR's I have.
Sc-37 up res's all HDMI input sources to 1080P output. SC-27 does not. Comcast Motorola Model ??? cable boxes spasticly switch video res's of input data ( 480I, 480P, 720P, 1080I...NO 1080P in this area), even when you set the internal menu to out put all at on res like 1080P, because of this I have to have an AVR that outputs all HDMI sources to 1080P. In this scenario, with a SC-27, you can input the cable from the set top box to an AVR thru component and output HDMI video and audio to HDTV via HDMI, you'll have to carry audio thru optical or RCA coax cable and match that input to the proper component video input.
Up resing 480I or 1080I to 1080P looks better on a 1080p display, it switches it to Progressive and eliminates that Interlaced look I personally don't care for. Some like the Interlaced look that is indicative of the old CRT TV's of the past Century
809 up res's all video sources to 1080P
SC-27 analog up res'ed to 1080P, HDMI sources pass through whatever res it's fed.
This is not an issue for most, they just don't care what signal is output to the Display, TV Projector or Etc. Or their HDTV is only 720P or 1080I max res. anyway. OR they only watch HD content and never SD.
"Personally, I can't remember the last time I watched a standard def TV show. And, when I did, upconverting certainly didn't make it significantly better. So, I'm OK with only analog sources being upconverted (for what it's worth).
Do you plan on moving to 3D? If so, HDMI V1.4 is a must have. If not, v1.3 is fine."
My opinion of 3D, is it's a gimmick and it's for kids.
The 809 has more up to date features than the SC-27, but none of those may matter to you.