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post #5041 of 5240
Is adding an additional Sub as easy as adding a male to dual female RCA splitter out of the back of the receiver to add a second sub? How does that effect the MCACC (Pioneer Sc-27) calibration when the receiver only sees one subwoofer? and cannot differentiate on the distances that it sets the sub and speaker levels ect? People have told me I can just add the spitter but this made me think about the calculations the receiver makes on the speakers.
post #5042 of 5240
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Originally Posted by rottentreats View Post

Back with another question! smile.gif Is it possible to connect an EQ to my SC-25... if so, how? (not digging the software noise/hiss method... I would prefer to adjust the EQ as I listen to music)

Side note - Bought my SC-25 for $400 w/ free shipping on eBay but no original remote. I got a new remote off eBay for $26 shipped. woot! Might look into getting a mic for MCACC, but first I want to nail down manually configuration smile.gif
Good Find. Welcome to the club. Enjoy playing around with it. I still have not mastered

Good Find. Welcome to the club. I have had my SC-27 for 5 months now and still have to go back and forth in the MCACC menu and have not mastered that yet. Take your time to customize all the Inputs Names ect for easy of function.
post #5043 of 5240
Mines basically new but its so huge that i may sell it... dont know yet
post #5044 of 5240
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Mines basically new but its so huge that i may sell it... dont know yet
They are beasts. I had to modify my shelf to fit it.
post #5045 of 5240
Thanks. I did that but it didn't make a difference.

What does seem to make a difference is what sound decoding is used. For example Dolby PL II + THX has a lag on a certain disc but switching to PCM removed the lag.
post #5046 of 5240
I have been reading this thread about how to get audio to pass-through my HDMI out port on my SC25. It seems like there is a lot of information however no official supported method, since there is no mention of that particular subject in the owner's manual.

From what I have read in order for the audio to be passed from the SC25 to a Television the following must be true:
1) KuroLink on the receiver must be ON
2) The receiver needs to be in Standby Mode (blue light power light ON and red HDMI indicator light ON and everything else is dark)
3) The destination (TV) needs to support HDMI control

I for one, cannot get this work.

Firstly I cannot get the receiver into Standby Mode. Now from what I've read here, people have been successful via experimenting with device on/off sequences, but nothing I've read seems consistent; one once again nothing clear in the manual, other than pushing the power (which just turns off the device for me). Has anyone figured this out?

As for if the device "supports HDMI control", I'm not sure what that indiciates? Is there an official spec that I need to look?

Any guru's here care to weigh in on this?

Thanks
post #5047 of 5240
mels, if you want to pass through the audio from an HDMI input to the HDMI output, make sure to read page 89 of your manual.
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Set the HDMI parameter in Setting the Audio options on page 88 to THROUGH if you want to hear HDMI audio output from your TV or flat panel TV (no sound will be heard from this receiver).

It may not be quite the "standby" you want, but at least it may achieve the goal you seem to want (audio coming from the TV).

For the Standby to work, according to the manual (page 85), both the TV and the source must support "Kuro Link", which is Pioneer's name for HDMI CEC. See the third paragraph in that link for all the various manufacturer's names for it.
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When the receiver’s KURO LINK is turned ON, even if the receiver’s power is in the standby mode, it is possible to output the audio and video signals from a player via HDMI to the TV without producing sound from the receiver, but only when a KURO LINK compatible component (Blu-ray disc player, etc.) and compatible TV are connected. In this case, the receiver’s power turns on and the power and HDMI indicators light.

It might or might not work with other manufacturer's component.

Hope this helps a little!

Dan.
post #5048 of 5240
Anyone else experience any clipping on there Pioneer SC-27. I heard it again Saturday night watching Taken 2 about 1 hour into the move. Not strong clipping but a few times replayed the scene to make sure I wasnt hearing anything. It has not done it in a month since I lasted posted on it. I am running a 7.1 Axiom speaker set up. My front two towers are 4 ohm and my center is 6 ohm speakers. All the remaining are 8 ohm speakers.

I am leaning towards a Adcom GFA 555II amp to power the front towards 320 watts to each at 4 ohms to power these bad boys. Any thoughts or objections
I feel nervous when I hear it now. Driving me crazy and un easy. Only action movies. I am usually listen with the receiver set at -8db on which is loud and I like it there or sometimes lower.

This receiver is a beast and bench tested to 3.2 ohms but am I asking to much of it with my set up? THX Ultra 2 Certified on this receiver too.
Edited by briandaniella - 2/18/13 at 11:23am
post #5049 of 5240
I picked up a Adcom GFA5500 to add to the mix. I am going to run the RCA from the Pioneer SC-27 to the AMP. Do i have to re-run the MCACC with this set up or change any setting to let he receiver know what I am doing? It is only a two channel amp running my front L?R speakers that are 4 ohm will this throw off the sound that will be coming from my center channel that will still be plugged into the SC-27????
post #5050 of 5240
briandaniella, the answer depends on whether MCACC correction is applied or not to the multi-channel line out of the SC-27. Should be easy to check: Listen to a stereo source through your new amp, and toggle between "direct" and "pure direct". If you hear a change, then that means that MCACC is applied to the line outs, and you should therefore re-run MCACC with your new setup.

Dan.
post #5051 of 5240
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Originally Posted by info_dan View Post

briandaniella, the answer depends on whether MCACC correction is applied or not to the multi-channel line out of the SC-27. Should be easy to check: Listen to a stereo source through your new amp, and toggle between "direct" and "pure direct". If you hear a change, then that means that MCACC is applied to the line outs, and you should therefore re-run MCACC with your new setup.

Dan.

Question can I plug my amp into my Monster Power HTS 1650. Currently I have my Pioneer SC-27 plugged into it with no issues.
I know there is alot of debate on this. Would this amp Adcom GFA 5500 be to much draw on this Monster ?
post #5052 of 5240
There shouldn't be much debate... Just look at the specs. What is the 1650 rated to deliver? What is the max current draw of your amp?
post #5053 of 5240
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There shouldn't be much debate... Just look at the specs. What is the 1650 rated to deliver? What is the max current draw of your amp?

Max on the amp is 1000watts. I do have other stuff plugged into the Monster 1650 though. TheMonster 1650 says max 1800watts. Right now with all the other stuff plugged in there max's combined is like 600watts so total 1600watts all together max. SC-27, Projector, Bluray, ect isplugged into it currently.

They are on a 15amp breaker which i know I should'nt run more than 80% which is 1440watts. what is the call?
post #5054 of 5240
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Originally Posted by briandaniella View Post

I picked up a Adcom GFA5500 to add to the mix. I am going to run the RCA from the Pioneer SC-27 to the AMP. Do i have to re-run the MCACC with this set up or change any setting to let he receiver know what I am doing? It is only a two channel amp running my front L?R speakers that are 4 ohm will this throw off the sound that will be coming from my center channel that will still be plugged into the SC-27????

You should re-run MCACC to get the gain (trim) settings set correctly for all speakers with the amp in play.
post #5055 of 5240
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

You should re-run MCACC to get the gain (trim) settings set correctly for all speakers with the amp in play.

Thanks good call.
post #5056 of 5240
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Originally Posted by briandaniella View Post

Max on the amp is 1000watts. I do have other stuff plugged into the Monster 1650 though. TheMonster 1650 says max 1800watts. Right now with all the other stuff plugged in there max's combined is like 600watts so total 1600watts all together max. SC-27, Projector, Bluray, ect isplugged into it currently.

They are on a 15amp breaker which i know I should'nt run more than 80% which is 1440watts. what is the call?

If the total wattage of all equipment is below what the Monster says it can provide, then you should be good. Personally, I wouldn't worry about an 80% rule on the 15A for audio equipment, since the power stated on the amps is a maximum and the actual draw will vary with the music (and the volume...). And since the amp will be taking the job of the SC for powering the main speakers, I doubt the SC will often reach its maximum draw of 330 watts. If we were talking about equipment that constantly draws power (e.g. electrical heaters), it would be a different story.

Dan.
post #5057 of 5240
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Originally Posted by info_dan View Post

If the total wattage of all equipment is below what the Monster says it can provide, then you should be good. Personally, I wouldn't worry about an 80% rule on the 15A for audio equipment, since the power stated on the amps is a maximum and the actual draw will vary with the music (and the volume...). And since the amp will be taking the job of the SC for powering the main speakers, I doubt the SC will often reach its maximum draw of 330 watts. If we were talking about equipment that constantly draws power (e.g. electrical heaters), it would be a different story.

Dan.

Dan thanks good looking out. Just trying to cover my bases. Do most of all run there amps directly to the wall outlet or thru their power conditioners if they have one?
The main reason I bought the Monster Power conditioner is I picked it up on Ebay for $30 could go wrong there and I was mainly wanting to clean up the wires to one location without using a standard surge protector power strip thats all. Sounds like I should be good. I will report back mid-week and let all know how it did plugged into the Monster with everything else plugged in.
post #5058 of 5240
I plug my amps straight into (dedicated) wall outlets. However, if the conditioner is rated high enough you could plug the amp(s) into it.
post #5059 of 5240
Quick question on Bi-Amping (yes I searched but didn't find an answer...)

I am using my SC-25 to power my Cerwin-Vega! LS-15's... (Frequency Response: 26 Hz - 20 kHz Power Handling: 400 watts Sensitivity: 102 dB Impedance: 8 ohm )

My question is can I bi-amp these speakers? (mind they only one one pair of terminals...) Does bi-amping just give the speakers more power? If there is any additional information or tips you could provide I would appreciate it.
post #5060 of 5240
There are many threads on bi-amping. It's not worth it IMO, at least not as implemented in AVRs, and you'd have to open up your speakers to add a second pair of terminals to bi-amp. With their sensitivity rating you have no need to bi-amp.
post #5061 of 5240
Ok, bi-amping is out the window.

So my question now, has anyone tried running speakers in parallel of these receivers with any success? By that I mean hooking up 2 speakers to 1 channel. (connecting two speakers + terminals to the + terminal on one channel and the same with the -)

From what I am reading that will cut impedance in half... (which I know running speakers at lower ohms isn't recommended... but I would think it's fine?)
post #5062 of 5240
I'm trying to play content from my computer (live stream) through my sc25. I have hdmi working for the image on hdmi input 2, and the audio working through the analog video 2 right & white inputs, but not together. I'm sure at one time this system played through the audio as set up above when input was on hdmi 2, but not now. Any advice?
post #5063 of 5240
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Originally Posted by rottentreats View Post

From what I am reading that will cut impedance in half... (which I know running speakers at lower ohms isn't recommended... but I would think it's fine?)

do so at your own risk, especially with 4 ohm nominal speakers rolleyes.gif
personally, I think anyone wanting to do this with a receiver should think again. I really want to say "is crazy" tongue.gif

it's a very bad idea.

if you want multiple sets of speakers, do it right with an impedance matching speaker selector, like a Nile Audio, Russound, etc. or get a distribution amplifier.
Edited by ss9001 - 3/17/13 at 4:24am
post #5064 of 5240
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Originally Posted by cdnscg View Post

I'm trying to play content from my computer (live stream) through my sc25. I have hdmi working for the image on hdmi input 2, and the audio working through the analog video 2 right & white inputs, but not together. I'm sure at one time this system played through the audio as set up above when input was on hdmi 2, but not now. Any advice?
You need to select "Video2" as the input on the SC. Make sure the proper HDMI terminal is specified in the input configuration of Video 2 input (See page 48 of your manual). To assign an HDMI terminal to an analog input, Kuro Link has to be off.

Hope this helps a little!

Dan.
post #5065 of 5240
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Originally Posted by info_dan View Post

You need to select "Video2" as the input on the SC. Make sure the proper HDMI terminal is specified in the input configuration of Video 2 input (See page 48 of your manual). To assign an HDMI terminal to an analog input, Kuro Link has to be off.

Hope this helps a little!

Dan.

Many Thanks Dan!
post #5066 of 5240
^^^ So it worked?
post #5067 of 5240
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Originally Posted by info_dan View Post

^^^ So it worked?

Yes, but I had to set the signal input for video 2 to analog. Thanks again mon ami.
post #5068 of 5240
Anybody have any tips on improving the sound quality when using an ipod/iphone when connected through the Pioneer USB cable. At higher volumes it sounds shrilly, and almost over modulated. My audio files on my ipod are using Apple lossless codec.
post #5069 of 5240
Hi guys,


Anyone here have a SC-25 + Monitor Audio RS8?


I was expecting to run these towers in large speaker but when i do the bass is lacking... there is too much high/mid... going in bi-amp is even worse... still lack of bass and even more high/mid...


I'm considering buying a dedicated amp with more power reserve for the fronts... Like emotiva xpa-2


Any comment / recommandations are welcome before i proceed...


Regards


David
Edited by master666nclt - 3/31/13 at 5:32pm
post #5070 of 5240
I assume you are running a subwoofer, maybe you have bass cancellation issues between the towers and the sub. Try setting the towers to small and see what happens ( again assuming a sub is in use).
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