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post #211 of 3313
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Originally Posted by netroamer View Post

I too was also puzzled as to how to daisy-chain multiple units. The owners manual I reviewed had no mention of the subject. I also concluded that multiple RS-232 ports would be seem logical or perhaps control via the network port. I would like to purchase 2 units but I don't have the budget for additional third party control. Has anyone seen any documentation supporting multiple players without third party control?

Use My movies 3 on a pc it supports rs-232 controlled changers and will work on extenders soon!
post #212 of 3313
3 changers at an average cost of $20 per disc moves us above the $20k number - this should move to the $20k + forum. At that type of cost - every one should look to see what Escient comes up with in terms of an interface.
post #213 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

Use My movies 3 on a pc it supports rs-232 controlled changers and will work on extenders soon!

So would this work? How would this be set up, wireless? Would the pc with movies 3 pick up and aggregate all the movies in the disk changer, and any other device that is rs-232 controlled like the Escient Vision for instance or some other device that held movies in a hard drive and then somehow tie into the system with the pc My Movies 3 gui showing up on the screen? And this would be controlled by your rs-232 controller?
post #214 of 3313
Picked up a unit, yesterday, from my local dealer, for eval. Unit will not power up. All it does is flash, for hours, "Please Wait".
post #215 of 3313
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Originally Posted by netroamer View Post

Picked up a unit, yesterday, from my local dealer, for eval. Unit will not power up. All it does is flash, for hours, "Please Wait".

Is there a reset sequence that you could try?
post #216 of 3313
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Originally Posted by uw69 View Post

Is there a reset sequence that you could try?

Not that I am aware of for this type of failure. It does not progress far enough in the boot sequence to get to the self-diagnostics. The dealer is checking with Sony for suggestions.
post #217 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

So would this work? How would this be set up, wireless? Would the pc with movies 3 pick up and aggregate all the movies in the disk changer, and any other device that is rs-232 controlled like the Escient Vision for instance or some other device that held movies in a hard drive and then somehow tie into the system with the pc My Movies 3 gui showing up on the screen? And this would be controlled by your rs-232 controller?

You would add your movie library manually but much more detail and controll once added. See screen shots in link. My movies V3 is not out yet V2 is but you can see screen shots of it here.

http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation...y%20Movies%203
post #218 of 3313
Amazon has dropped the price of the Megachanger already.
post #219 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

You would add your movie library manually but much more detail and controll once added. See screen shots in link. My movies V3 is not out yet V2 is but you can see screen shots of it here.

http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation...y%20Movies%203

I'm still not following. I see how MyMovies could control a firewire changer since the data is processed inside the PC. With the Sony changers, the only thing coming out of the changer is the audio/video signal on HDMI (or analog outputs).

I guess I could see how this could work with an HDMI matrix switch, but you'd need a lot more than MyMovies to make that work, I think something that Cinemar is working on woudl be better suited for that. Also, no way you are getting the Blu-ray from the changer on the extender unless you output via component, then get an HD-PVR to take the signal in, then transcode that to an extender.

Maybe I'm missing something, but the new Sony changers are NOT designed to work in an HTPC environment, it woudl have to be all external controls and outside the HTPC/Extender environment.
post #220 of 3313
correct my movies would just display available movies and control the play function and then you would swicth to correct input
post #221 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

You would add your movie library manually but much more detail and controll once added. See screen shots in link. My movies V3 is not out yet V2 is but you can see screen shots of it here.

http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation...y%20Movies%203

I can't figure out what your software does with regard to the changer - how do you connect and configure your software to use the 7000es?

Do you have to manually load/scan each individual disc from the changer to be incorporated into your library???
post #222 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

correct my movies would just display available movies and control the play function and then you would swicth to correct input

The gui really is great. So basically, you enter the name of the movie into the pc, the pc gui would be displayed on the screen, and you could control the megachanger using a My Movie 3 compatible remote because it supports rs-232?

Somehow the computer would need to interface with the rest of the system so the gui could be displayed on the screen. If it works that way it sounds ingenious.
post #223 of 3313
indeed on the amazon note...20% is 20%

Now...just give me 50%!!!!

James
post #224 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

The gui really is great. So basically, you enter the name of the movie into the pc, the pc gui would be displayed on the screen, and you could control the megachanger using a My Movie 3 compatible remote because it supports rs-232?

Somehow the computer would need to interface with the rest of the system so the gui could be displayed on the screen. If it works that way it sounds ingenious.

Yes you use media center pc connected to tv or a media center extender like the xbox 360. Then you control and when you press play in the GUI it loads the disk on the changer. All movies have to be inputed manually at first but there is a data base of almost any movie you can think of that has been added by the users. Great program read more on the web site.
post #225 of 3313
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

I can't figure out what your software does with regard to the changer - how do you connect and configure your software to use the 7000es?

Do you have to manually load/scan each individual disc from the changer to be incorporated into your library???

See tutorial of My Movies 2 http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation.aspx
post #226 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

See tutorial of My Movies 2 http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation.aspx

I was already on those pages - I don't see reference to Sony changer configuration, control, etc. Just the external storage carousel..
post #227 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

Yes you use media center pc connected to tv or a media center extender like the xbox 360. Then you control and when you press play in the GUI it loads the disk on the changer. All movies have to be inputed manually at first but there is a data base of almost any movie you can think of that has been added by the users. Great program read more on the web site.

I still don't follow, MyMovies, Media Center, and Sony Blu-Ray changers does not mean you can use a remote to select and play a disc from within MyMovies. You would also need a matrix switch, another HTPC application to tell the matrix switch which input to go to and to change the video input on the AVR or Display to the matrix switch and this would require another control device, and note the Blu-Ray is not going to play through the HTPC nor through any extender.
post #228 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Nick Satullo View Post

An earlier perusal of specs suggested not much difference between the ES changer and the one to be released. A closer look reveals some differences. Only a side-by-side will indicate whether the differences matter.

What ES Has That Non-ES Doesn't

1. Deep Color
2. HD Reality Enhancer
3. Super-Bit Mapping
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Anyone know if Deep Color, HD Reality Enhancer , and super Bit Mapping are meaningful from a PQ standpoint?
post #229 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

Anyone know if Deep Color, HD Reality Enhancer , and super Bit Mapping are meaningful from a PQ standpoint?

It must be, you pay an extra $1000 for it! (plus you get an RS232 port on the ES)
post #230 of 3313
Well it's taken the better part of two days to reconfigure my rack to accomodate the MegaChanger. What a pain. Now just waiting for the "right" price to pull the trigger. Thought I had one, but the retailer couldn't confirm when they would be getting stock.

The watch and wait continues!
post #231 of 3313
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Originally Posted by uw69 View Post

Well it's taken the better part of two days to reconfigure my rack to accomodate the MegaChanger. What a pain. Now just waiting for the "right" price to pull the trigger. Thought I had one, but the retailer couldn't confirm when they would be getting stock.

The watch and wait continues!

Funny. I just received the new rack mount for the 7000ES yesterday. I am also planning to rearrange my rack and add this 6-space RSH shelf in place of the 777ES. I was hoping to just rest the 777ES on the 7000ES shelf while I wait to buy the new changer (I am also waiting on a deal). I figured that it should fit as the new changer is larger than the old one.

-T.Wells
post #232 of 3313
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Originally Posted by sipester View Post

I still don't follow, MyMovies, Media Center, and Sony Blu-Ray changers does not mean you can use a remote to select and play a disc from within MyMovies. You would also need a matrix switch, another HTPC application to tell the matrix switch which input to go to and to change the video input on the AVR or Display to the matrix switch and this would require another control device, and note the Blu-Ray is not going to play through the HTPC nor through any extender.

Haha you guys are getting to deep with this I just wanted to give you basic knowledge of other options taht are not as expensive if you want to look at another route
post #233 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

Haha you guys are getting to deep with this I just wanted to give you basic knowledge of other options taht are not as expensive if you want to look at another route

Too deep? I think folks are just trying to understand how this option works and how they might be able to implement it in their situation. Clearly a less expensive option, if we can figure out how it works.
post #234 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

Haha you guys are getting to deep with this I just wanted to give you basic knowledge of other options taht are not as expensive if you want to look at another route

Buddy, that's a pretty dismissive comment from someone trying to promote their work to the people making the effort to give it a shot.

I can't even figure out what I'm supposed to do to get your product to work with the Sony..if you can't help with your own product, then you're wasting all our time.
post #235 of 3313
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Buddy, that's a pretty dismissive comment from someone trying to promote their work to the people making the effort to give it a shot.

I can't even figure out what I'm supposed to do to get your product to work with the Sony..if you can't help with your own product, then you're wasting all our time.

Ha sorry not my product I just use it =) All it does is organizize collection after you type the titles in program first. You can connect it to serial changer so it can go to correct slot. The best part is the GUI. The site is pretty intuitive and teh forum tehre is also very good
post #236 of 3313
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Originally Posted by xtremxterra View Post

Ha sorry not my product I just use it =) All it does is organizize collection after you type the titles in program first. You can connect it to serial changer so it can go to correct slot. The best part is the GUI. The site is pretty intuitive and teh forum tehre is also very good

My Escient Vision just arived today. I bought it mainly to control the mega changer. But I got to say that if you could enter the name of the movie on the pc, enter the slot the movie is in on the disk changer, click on the movie art on that is displayed on your movie screen or tv with the remote and it activated the movie in the changer, this would be a simple and inexpensive solution.

However, the website's lack of typical documentation leads me to believe that either you have to know what you are doing to make this happen, or know someone who knows what they are doing. Other folks have recommended similar MCE based products, but none of the vendors appear to be able to cleary articulate what exactly their product can do or how they do it so that a layman like myself can understand. And if I can't understand what it does, I will not likely be able to fix it when something goes wrong.
post #237 of 3313
I downloaded the MyMovies 2 software and went through the process and added a couple of movies. The integration into Windows Media Center is very nice. As mentioned each movie in your collection needs to be manually entered, but the two I tried were quickly recognized as being in the database already so adding them was easy.

There is an option to identify and configure a DVD changer but not for the BDP-CX7000ES..yet.

BUT, I still am at a loss on the communication mechanism between, say my laptop and a Megachanger. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed on this stuff, anyone else downloaded the software and can give some insight?

Still also unclear if you could control multiple changers this way.
post #238 of 3313
a report I read from Cedia indicates RTI will develop 2 way RS232 drivers for the Sony BD changer: no IP control, which means no cover art from the changer
post #239 of 3313
Noah it is very easy to use and can do exactly what you stated. version 3 will be out mid november on release of windows 7 you should try it then since its free!
post #240 of 3313
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Originally Posted by uw69 View Post

I downloaded the MyMovies 2 software and went through the process and added a couple of movies. The integration into Windows Media Center is very nice. As mentioned each movie in your collection needs to be manually entered, but the two I tried were quickly recognized as being in the database already so adding them was easy.

There is an option to identify and configure a DVD changer but not for the BDP-CX7000ES..yet.

BUT, I still am at a loss on the communication mechanism between, say my laptop and a Megachanger. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed on this stuff, anyone else downloaded the software and can give some insight?

Still also unclear if you could control multiple changers this way.

Coomunications would be through rs232 serial. if you dont have serial port you can buy a usb to serial adapter. Wait till you see version three itys amazing!

Read this thread. Brian the developer is sooo good he listens to people and adds features they want. I am part of the pre release testing and let me tell you its great! http://www.mymovies.dk/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=13534
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