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post #2401 of 3313
Great to hear your experience has been a good one for the "week" you've owned the changer. Hope you can say the same months from now. I'm sure many can. I was not so fortunate with my 960 which after 6 months I kicked to the curb for the 7000. My issue was never with whether Gracenote could identify a given Blu-ray or not. In cases where Gracenote couldn't identify a given disc I'd simply enter the disc information manually aside from the rating (and cover art) which can only be acquired from Gracenote. That being said, the real issue I was having was with discs which I had already loaded successfully. Discs already containing disc information and cover art would show as "Invalid Disc" when powering on the changer. Could be just one disc or a series of discs. Most of the time it would be the last disc I happened to be playing in the changer. All disc information and cover art would be gone and at that point the given disc could not be played in the changer. It also couldn't be loaded using the "load" option. I also found that if I selected the disc in the next changer slot via the XMB that disc wouldn't play either. That disc would then be showing as invalid also. Taking the disc out of the slot, closing the door, then reopening the door and placing the disc back in the slot would generally correct the issue. Often times it took several attempts however. The changer would then allow the disc to be played. I'd then of course have to acquire the disc information and cover art from Gracenote all over again. In many cases I'd then have to sit there and edit the disc information brought down by Gracenote with Sony's moronic texting interface due to the fact Sony didn't implement a "Sort Title" field. On several occassions I also found that a given disc would just be missing from the list per Sony's XMB. As such, I would periodically sort by slot number to make sure there were no missing slot numbers in the sequence as I always load changers starting with slot 1 and never skip a slot. When finding that a disc was missing from the list I'd then have to remove it from the changer, close the door, reopen the door again and place the disc back in the slot before I'd then see the disc listed in Sony's XMB again. To add insult to injury I'd then have to load the disc all over again, then editing the disc information brought down in many cases. While these issues did not occur daily they did happen numerous times a month. Eventually I had to say enough is enough and moved on to the 7000, so that I could dump Sony's XMB for disc selection and everything that entails. Consider this as well. Sony provides no way for you to backup the disc information. This bothered me from the very start. If there was keyboard support that would be one thing. Having only the texting interface there's no way I'd want to sit there and first load all the discs again, then editing the disc information that's come down when needed to ensure my collection is alphabetized properly and not by the article and so forth.
post #2402 of 3313
JoeBlow - I want to update, but it looks like the Sony download site is down. Unfortunately, the Sony eSupport site firmware is from May (not current)
post #2403 of 3313
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Originally Posted by wilbur_the_goose View Post
"... - I want to update, but it looks like the Sony download site is down. Unfortunately, the Sony eSupport site firmware is from May (not current) "
The May version of the most current, as reported by several back in May (2011).

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Originally Posted by clayjohanson View Post
"This utility updates the BDP-CX960 firmware to version 020, and improves compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs. ..."
post #2404 of 3313
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Originally Posted by bmerk2010 View Post
If you find that some of your Blurays/DVDs/CDs do not show the cover art and other info, you can inform Gracenote of it. I found this on the Gracenote website:

Why didn't my DVD/Blu-ray get recognized? Why is my DVD/Blu-ray missing cover art?

Please send us specifics to support@gracenote.com and we'll look into it. We'll need:

Title
Edition (Widescreen, Director's Cut, etc.)
UPC/EAN/JAN/Hinban (Commercial product code/barcode)
Format (DVD/Blu-ray)
I also included Release Date when I submitted my list of problem discs Plus, I placed the information in a .csv file.
post #2405 of 3313
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Originally Posted by CEDTV1999 View Post

I also included Release Date when I submitted my list of problem discs Plus, I placed the information in a .csv file.

Have anyone actually noticed movies being added after they where submitted?
post #2406 of 3313
On the same subject with the CX7000.

I have noticed now that USB sticks for BD live does not work at all

it works fine with my 960 but not in the 7000, independent on brand/model used. The light on the USB stick does not even blink showing that the USB port does not even "seems to be in use".

Anyone else had the same issue(s)?

Thanks
post #2407 of 3313
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Originally Posted by studiox_swe View Post
Have anyone actually noticed movies being added after they where submitted?

I just sent my list a couple days ago. So we'll see.
post #2408 of 3313
Escient Vision 200 Question - I seem to have worked out "most" of the bugs with getting my system up and running with my two 7000s. One kink I do notice is that when turning on the vs200 it starts up my two 7000s, but one or both of the units does not get recognized and connected to the vs200. The dialog box telling me this and when I check the status, its confirmed and for the unit that does not connect none of the dvd/blu items are seen. Does it make a diff if I dont fully power down the unit? Right now I have it on a timed power down (no power / no red light), rather then keeping it running, but in standby (red light). Primary reason for this is that when in stdby the fan noise is somewhat distracting for other things going on in my room. I could however leave it red light if anyone has positivie experience keeping connection to the changers on start up. For what its worth, If i inititate the connect process manually a couple times after both players turn on it does connect and work well. Its just during startup that they dont auto connect all of the time. Thanks in advance.
post #2409 of 3313
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Originally Posted by studiox_swe View Post

Have anyone actually noticed movies being added after they where submitted?

In the past, yes. Sometimes it has taken a while (as in, up to several MONTHS in the case of "Alien Anthology (Disc 6)") for proper metadata to become available.
post #2410 of 3313
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Originally Posted by studiox_swe View Post

Have anyone actually noticed movies being added after they where submitted?

I have to agree that it does take some time for additions or corrections to be reflected in the metadata. Gracenote did respond to my request, made in mid April, 2011, in a timely matter. There were 22 discs on my list. Two of the Blu-ray discs that were missing were released in Feb. 2011. I feel that they should have been there in March, let along April. They didn't show up until sometime in May
I usually check once a month for updated.
post #2411 of 3313
I use the Vision to control my 7000 changers. I have also begun to rip selective discs to the unit's hard drive. However, I am experiencing image lockup during playback.
Do all Vision units freeze periodically during playback of ripped DVD's? I know the freeze will not happen at the same point if replayed so it would appear to be a playback not a rip issue.
I spoke to Escient Tech Support and was told this is a known issue with no plans, by them, to remedy.
Does anyone have a clue to the source of the issue? I was considering replacing the SATA drive cables...but that is just a shot in the dark.
I am also going to run component video out and set the output resolution at 480i, and let the pre/pro do the scaling, to determine if this is a Escient scaler and/or HDMI issue.
Any input would be appreciated.
post #2412 of 3313
Hi Netroamer,

I've tested two VS-100's and they both freeze randomly, but I have not yet tested whether a VC-1 or VS-100 serving from VX-600s will freeze. I've got 2 VC-1s to test and 4 VX-600s.

I talked with Escient support on several occasions and this topic has come up. One tech said it is inherent in the VS units. I know they run quite hot so I've installed internal fans on one unit but haven't tested to see if it's the HD temps that might cause the HDs to freeze.

Another tech told me that if you let the VS units sit idle for some time, they will develop the freeze issue; using them more often would remedy this. He didn't say how often they need to be used and I haven't sat through a series of movies to find out.

If anyone has any insight or solution, I'd be very happy to learn something new.

Thanks,

Ron
post #2413 of 3313
I have a BDP-CX960. Ever since I updated to Firmware Version 15.4.020 I have had problems using BD-Live. It used to work very well with all of the BD-Live discs we have, but now they all seem to have problems, though different discs have different behaviors with BD-Live. Some simply freeze during the load of the BD-Live software, some report that BD-Live is not available, some partially work and then freeze, etc.

Note that the player recognizes the USB drive fine and writes *something* onto it when the discs load. I am also able to delete data without any problem. In fact, I just went through and deleted the data for ALL the discs in case there was a problem with the drive being full or some sort of data corruption. It didn't help.

In any case, I decided to try to move back to Firmware Version 15.4.018. I have that version here and I burned it onto a CD-ROM and put it into the player. The player properly shows it as an update disc for that version, but when I select it, it reports the standard "Already updated." message like I get when I try to do a network update. I suppose Sony has designed to firmware to reject updates to older versions.

Does anyone know of any trick to allow the BDP-CX960 to downgrade its firmware to an older version?

TIA,

Reg

P.S. And, yes, I still have the problem of the player occasionally forgetting some of the discs.
post #2414 of 3313
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Originally Posted by RegGuheert View Post

I have a BDP-CX960. Ever since I updated to Firmware Version 15.4.020 I have had problems using BD-Live. It used to work very well with all of the BD-Live discs we have, but now they all seem to have problems, though different discs have different behaviors with BD-Live. Some simply freeze during the load of the BD-Live software, some report that BD-Live is not available, some partially work and then freeze, etc.

Note that the player recognizes the USB drive fine and writes *something* onto it when the discs load. I am also able to delete data without any problem. In fact, I just went through and deleted the data for ALL the discs in case there was a problem with the drive being full or some sort of data corruption. It didn't help.

In any case, I decided to try to move back to Firmware Version 15.4.018. I have that version here and I burned it onto a CD-ROM and put it into the player. The player properly shows it as an update disc for that version, but when I select it, it reports the standard "Already updated." message like I get when I try to do a network update. I suppose Sony has designed to firmware to reject updates to older versions.

Does anyone know of any trick to allow the BDP-CX960 to downgrade its firmware to an older version?

TIA,

Reg

P.S. And, yes, I still have the problem of the player occasionally forgetting some of the discs.

If you have not already done so, pull the plug on the unit; remove the USB drive; insert it in a computer and wipe all the files. Replace the USB drive and power up the unit.

Also, verify your network settings and test the connection.
post #2415 of 3313
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Originally Posted by spinmd2 View Post

Hi Netroamer,

I've tested two VS-100's and they both freeze randomly, but I have not yet tested whether a VC-1 or VS-100 serving from VX-600s will freeze. I've got 2 VC-1s to test and 4 VX-600s.

I talked with Escient support on several occasions and this topic has come up. One tech said it is inherent in the VS units. I know they run quite hot so I've installed internal fans on one unit but haven't tested to see if it's the HD temps that might cause the HDs to freeze.

Another tech told me that if you let the VS units sit idle for some time, they will develop the freeze issue; using them more often would remedy this. He didn't say how often they need to be used and I haven't sat through a series of movies to find out.

If anyone has any insight or solution, I'd be very happy to learn something new.

Thanks,

Ron

Can you tell me if these have the same power supplies as the older Fireballs?
post #2416 of 3313
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Originally Posted by netroamer View Post
If you have not already done so, pull the plug on the unit; remove the USB drive; insert it in a computer and wipe all the files. Replace the USB drive and power up the unit.
Thanks! I've been trying to avoid this option since it is so difficult to get to the USB drive, but I think it's time to give it a shot.
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Originally Posted by netroamer View Post
Also, verify your network settings and test the connection.
Yeah, the network is working. The unit has no problems checking for new firmware, etc. I stream video from another Sony unit in the same entertainment center. One concern in this arena is that I'm wondering if they have shortened their timeouts on the unit. I'm saddled with a high-latency satellite connection and things take longer than terrestrial links.
post #2417 of 3313
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Originally Posted by RegGuheert View Post

Thanks! I've been trying to avoid this option since it is so difficult to get to the USB drive, but I think it's time to give it a shot.

I know this is basic, but think about spending a couple of bucks on a USB extension cable that would plug into the Sony and give you easy access to the USB drive.

Good Luck!
post #2418 of 3313
stefuel,

The power supplies in the VS-100/200 are different from the Fireball PS as these have Sata power cables for the Vision's Sata drives vs. the 4-pin IDE power cables for the Fireball's IDE hard drives. I can't recall whether the Fireball's PS are enclosed (I think they're open cages); the Vision PS is fully enclosed like you'd find on a PC, however, they are slim versions.

I purchased a replacement power supply for a VS-100 but didn't need it; I had a crashed hard drive. It was difficult finding a replacement and although it had the same part no., the cables were shorter.

Ron
post #2419 of 3313
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Originally Posted by spinmd2 View Post

stefuel,

The power supplies in the VS-100/200 are different from the Fireball PS as these have Sata power cables for the Vision's Sata drives vs. the 4-pin IDE power cables for the Fireball's IDE hard drives. I can't recall whether the Fireball's PS are enclosed (I think they're open cages); the Vision PS is fully enclosed like you'd find on a PC, however, they are slim versions.

I purchased a replacement power supply for a VS-100 but didn't need it; I had a crashed hard drive. It was difficult finding a replacement and although it had the same part no., the cables were shorter.

Ron

Probably a micro ATX 1U power supply. Does it still use the 20 pin mother board connector? The original Fireball ones were the "open" type. They only provide ground, +3.3, +5 and +12 volt DC. On the fireball ones, all the other wires are removed from the connector. You can use a PC power supply to power up a fireball if you snip off all the unused wires and jump the green wire to ground. That calls on the power supply full time as long as it's plugged into a wall outlet. I modified one Fireball this way and it's been running fine for over a month.
post #2420 of 3313
Yup, it was a micro ATX. I believe the model is a FSP180-50LE, 80 Plus Certified, with 4cm Fan; however, that model is hard to come by so I bought an FSP270-60LE to step up the available wattage. Visions do use the 20-pin motherboard connector.

Problem with the 60 LE was that the 20-pin connector cable was only about 10 inches long, whereas the 50LE is 18 or so inches, IIRC, so I had to get an extension. It might have been that I didn't receive an FSP brand, but a Sparkle brand -- I didn't bother sending it back as it was only $60, and it worked.

Found out it wouldn't boot up due to one of the hard drives crashing. Replaced the drive and after a RAID rebuild it booted fine, so I put the old PS back in. The VS100 and VS200 are packed tight with one drive on top of the other and not breathing room. The bottom drive crashed probably due to excessive heat.

Ron
post #2421 of 3313
Can the 960 be controlled by a Control 4 system or does it require a serial port?
post #2422 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Bruceko View Post

Can the 960 be controlled by a Control 4 system or does it require a serial port?

Requires a serial port. Sorry.
post #2423 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Bruceko View Post

Can the 960 be controlled by a Control 4 system or does it require a serial port?

Nope but a 7000 can. Works just fine. Perhaps it is time to find an IP control program or a less expensive 960. Sony Style or outlet stores may be worth a shot for closout sales.
post #2424 of 3313
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post


Nope but a 7000 can. Works just fine. Perhaps it is time to find an IP control program or a less expensive 960. Sony Style or outlet stores may be worth a shot for closout sales.

The Sony Outlet stores have the 7000 for $799.00
post #2425 of 3313
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

Nope but a 7000 can. Works just fine. Perhaps it is time to find an IP control program or a less expensive 960. Sony Style or outlet stores may be worth a shot for closout sales.

Greetings:

Send me a PM to give you info on Serial /IP program. I do not know it right of my head.
Any info on outlet stores that carry the 7000ES?
Thanks
Ekpen.
post #2426 of 3313
ok, so... after all's said and done, should i shell out the extra four bills to go with the 7000ES, or can i get along with the CX960?

i haven't really seen a side-by-side comparison, so i'm hoping someone might be able to do an "in a nutshell, here's which, and why" type of recommendation.

thanks,

bling
post #2427 of 3313
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Originally Posted by chomperoni View Post

The Sony Outlet stores have the 7000 for $799.00

Thanks for the tip! Price was even better.
post #2428 of 3313
Has anybody figured out how to get that "invalid disk" error to clear? I now refuse to put anymore disks (I have over 200+ filled) into the player, I know it'll fail reading the disks after a bit. I just play them in the PS3 for now. But my disks are starting to stack up.
Sony refuses to fix the issue without charging me now. out of warrenty. But if this is really due to firmware, they should fix it at no charge. Did anybody get Sony to admit its the firmware?

Lastly, any news on a replacement model? Maybe one with 3D built-in?
post #2429 of 3313
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Originally Posted by starstreak View Post

Has anybody figured out how to get that "invalid disk" error to clear? I now refuse to put anymore disks (I have over 200+ filled) into the player, I know it'll fail reading the disks after a bit. I just play them in the PS3 for now. But my disks are starting to stack up.
Sony refuses to fix the issue without charging me now. out of warrenty. But if this is really due to firmware, they should fix it at no charge. Did anybody get Sony to admit its the firmware?

Aside from the steps outlined in my reply a few posts back, no. In my case it happened frequently enough with my 960 that I wasn't willing to live with it. I also didn't have the patience to even contemplate wasting my time trying to work with Sony to find a solution.
post #2430 of 3313
Amen Low Pro! I've got 3 invalid disks that play fine on every other player I've tried, so I know it's not a disk problem. Also, still no Gracenote info for Ultimate Jordan or Twilight Zone Season 3, even after sending an email to Gracenote 4 months ago.
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