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post #2881 of 3313
It seems to be only in N. America that most TV's are single-standard as I know most other parts of the world have adopted a more comprehensive approach.
post #2882 of 3313
you know that 720x576 is the defaulf res for s-video..


you also realize you're also talking about AC hertage, when you comment 50/60herts, actually some part of europe use a defcto standard of pal60 so you don't have to f.around with converting ntsc-pal..
post #2883 of 3313
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Originally Posted by wnl View Post

NTSC versus PAL is irrelevant for most Blu-Rays because typically they are encoded at 1080 lines and 24 fps

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Your TV needs to be able to show 576i50 if you are going to view PAL-sourced DVDs on it. Otherwise you will need a video processor to convert it in to something the TV can display.

But isn't that only the case if you wish to view them in 576i50? Most decent players I've seen in the last five years or so (including the BD Mega-Changers) upconvert to at least 1080i for HDMI output.

Is there some other piece to this that somehow allows a television to distinguish between a 1080i HD stream that was upconverted from NTSC and one that was upconverted from PAL?
post #2884 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post

Well it doesn't work anyway, sorry. Back to my Oppo for those discs.

What equipment are you trying it on? I believe that the North American versions of the MegaChangers will not play a PAL DVD, regardless of the disc's region setting.

The region-free-modded units sold on the internet are from New Zealand, where the stock MegaChangers natively support multiple video formats (but not multiple regions--thus the modding). Is that what you have--a modded unit?

To test what I was talking about, you would need a player that supports playback of PAL DVDs (such as a UK version), but lacks a built-in PAL-NTSC converter (which is, as you mentioned earlier, the case with the BD MegaChangers), and an NTSC-only television (which is pretty much all one can find in North America without going to specialty dealers) that has an HDMI input. The test would be to see if the television can display the video via HDMI, despite the source having been PAL and there being no PAL-NTSC converter.

The issue that sparked this conversation (and, indeed, I even wrote to one of the mod dealers a couple months ago to ask about it, but received no reply), is that, although the sellers of the region-free CX7000 units state that you need either a PAL-capable TV or a PAL-NTSC converter in order to view PAL-formatted source material, it doesn't seem to me that it should be necessary if you're connected via HDMI (because the output should be the same digital HD, regardless of the source's native PAL or NTSC format).
post #2885 of 3313
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

The region-free-modded units sold on the internet are from New Zealand, where the stock MegaChangers natively support multiple video formats (but not multiple regions--thus the modding). Is that what you have--a modded unit?

If I had just bothered to look at your profile, I woulda known the answer to that one. (Which is "yes"--a region-free BDP-CX7000ES and a, presumably, North American HD television.)

Darn. How come it didn't work?
post #2886 of 3313
Because unlike my Oppo there is no NTSC/PAL and vice versa conversion in the modification, for DVD's only apparently. That necessitates an intermediate converter box which I'm not bothering with because I have the Oppo. It does read PAL Blu-Ray and I'm never quite sure what the difference is in the actual process.

I looked up all the different 'converted' mega changers at the time of my purchase and from what I could gather, this unit is simply incapable of a full conversion as with my Oppo which plays anything I throw into it automatically.
post #2887 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post

Because unlike my Oppo there is no NTSC/PAL and vice versa conversion in the modification, for DVD's only apparently.

And, thus, my premise that there are no such things as *PAL* 1080p and *NTSC* 1080p must have been erroneous. I had thought that upconversion to digital 1080p made moot the PAL/NTSC issue.

I see that there are, indeed, PAL/NTSC converters that have HDMI inputs, which wouldn't make sense if my premise was accurate, unless the purpose of such inputs was down-conversion to analog output or upconversion of lower-def digital to higher def.

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It does read PAL Blu-Ray and I'm never quite sure what the difference is in the actual process.

I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that there's not really such thing as PAL Blu-Ray.

I just want to be able to stick my disc collection into my changers to browse and access them all from a single screen, instead of fiddling with disc cases and firing up my region-free, format-converting, single-slot player each time we wish to watch any of our several PAL DVDs. The now-confirmed need for an external converter makes the chances less likely that we'll convince ourselves to spring for a region-free changer.

Thanks for testing it out.
post #2888 of 3313
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

I just want to be able to stick my disc collection into my changers to browse and access them all from a single screen, instead of fiddling with disc cases and firing up my region-free, format-converting, single-slot player each time we wish to watch any of our several PAL DVDs. The now-confirmed need for an external converter makes the chances less likely that we'll convince ourselves to spring for a region-free changer.

Thanks for testing it out.

Only way is to put it on a server and not use the disc, but you have to remove the region code. So the video content is on the server. There is no Pal bluray, based on the resolution. It is only the region issue. For example, this also existed with HD DVD movies. I had this movie long ago, on HD DVD. http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Island-HD-DVD/dp/B000RJEHKI Actually, Equilibrium on HD DVD was just released on Bluray. Back in 2008, this was really an advantage with HD DVD and Bluray 2011?. There is still a few HD DVD movies left, that haven't been converted to Bluray. Not all movies were released in USA, but you could acquire it from another country and still watch it in English. That is if you watched it from a server, but the problem then was the audio quality was an issue due to HDMI.
post #2889 of 3313
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

But isn't that only the case if you wish to view them in 576i50? Most decent players I've seen in the last five years or so (including the BD Mega-Changers) upconvert to at least 1080i for HDMI output.

They upconvert to 1080 but do they change the frame rate? Are they sending 1080i50 or 1080i60?

I believe the only PAL vs NTSC issue for Blu-rays or upconverted DVDs is the framerate.

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Is there some other piece to this that somehow allows a television to distinguish between a 1080i HD stream that was upconverted from NTSC and one that was upconverted from PAL?

The PAL will (likely) still be at 50 (or 25) fps.

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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

The issue that sparked this conversation (and, indeed, I even wrote to one of the mod dealers a couple months ago to ask about it, but received no reply), is that, although the sellers of the region-free CX7000 units state that you need either a PAL-capable TV or a PAL-NTSC converter in order to view PAL-formatted source material, it doesn't seem to me that it should be necessary if you're connected via HDMI (because the output should be the same digital HD, regardless of the source's native PAL or NTSC format).

It is possible that the US model of the CX7000 simply refuses to play anything that isn't 24, 30, or 60 fps, so won't play PAL DVDs or Blu-rays with PAL source material. I combed through the specifications in the manual but it doesn't mention what frame rates are supported.

According to the Oppo web site, all their players will play at 24, 50, and 60.

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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

And, thus, my premise that there are no such things as *PAL* 1080p and *NTSC* 1080p must have been erroneous. I had thought that upconversion to digital 1080p made moot the PAL/NTSC issue.

It is only slightly erroneous. Blu-ray movies are almost exclusively rendered at 24 fps, because that's what movie makers on both sides of the pond use. So Blu-ray movies aren't PAL or NTSC, probably. When the source material is PAL the Blu-ray may still be at 50 fps. I worried about this when I ordered a British copy of Downton Abbey season 2 (I was impatient). Turns out those Blu-rays (anyway) are 1080p24 and quite playable by the CX7000.
post #2890 of 3313
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Originally Posted by wnl View Post

Blu-ray movies are almost exclusively rendered at 24 fps, because that's what movie makers on both sides of the pond use. So Blu-ray movies aren't PAL or NTSC, probably.

Is you emphasis there to indicate that you mean movies as opposed to, for instance, material intended for broadcast?

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When the source material is PAL the Blu-ray may still be at 50 fps.

I gather that you mean the Blu-ray player, rather than the Blu-ray disc, right? (If you're not talking about a PAL DVD, then I'm not sure what you're saying here.)

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I worried about this when I ordered a British copy of Downton Abbey season 2 (I was impatient). Turns out those DVDs (anyway) are 1080p24 and quite playable by the CX7000.

1080p24 native format on a DVD? Can regular DVD players even handle outputting that to a Standard Def television? Was it a special HD-only edition?

We bought the 3-season ("series" in the UK parlance) set of "Ashes to Ashes" on PAL DVD a few months ago (as it seemed that would be the only way for us to see the final season, since it had already been about three years since BBC America showed the second season). Wish that had a North American CX7000-playable format.
post #2891 of 3313
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

Is you emphasis there to indicate that you mean movies as opposed to, for instance, material intended for broadcast?

Correct. Although as my recent purchase of a UK import of Downton Abbey indicates, even some broadcast material is encoded at 24 fps on a Blu-ray.

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I gather that you mean the Blu-ray player, rather than the Blu-ray disc, right? (If you're not talking about a PAL DVD, then I'm not sure what you're saying here.)

If the Blu-ray disc is a copy of a show originally aired in PAL then I suspect there is a chance that it is encoded at 50 fps. That could be called, for lack of a better term, a "PAL Blu-ray". To my understanding the only thing that makes it "PAL" is the 50 fps as any other differences (resolution or chroma encoding) aren't significant to a Blu-ray.

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1080p24 native format on a DVD?

Sorry. Typo (now fixed). I meant to say Blu-ray.
post #2892 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

Only way is to put it on a server and not use the disc, but you have to remove the region code.

And then have to do likewise with our entire collection to achieve what I was talking about. The goal of us getting the Blu-ray changers was so that we could have everything stored in one place and accessed with a single index (well, two indices, because the changers can't combine their lists), with all the disc features and everything. No more searching through shelves or having orphaned discs lying around loose because we misplaced the box.

I often find myself dealing with unexpected resentment towards the MegaChangers' failure to eliminate the need for that. Every time I think "Oh, I want to watch...", only to remember that I would have to get off my butt, retrieve the disc and case from the next room, and load it in the old single-slot player because "Sony don't play that". We payed a heck of a lot (by our standards) for this equipment; it should do it all from one remote. Sigh.

We very much want to avoid having to deal with purchasing a HTPC and transferring our collection to harddrive (and also lose or break much of the menu functionality and special features of the original discs). If we were going to do that, we never would have purchased the changers in the first place.

Sure, we knew that the MegaChanger wouldn't support, for instance, our 3D Blu-ray discs, but that was a relatively minor issue. I figured that we would still have the PS3 for those rare occasions when we watch those. (I already regret having dropped half a week's wages on four pairs of glasses and a 3D sync transmitter only to find that the inconvenience outweighs the surprisingly slight enhancement of the viewing experience. Maybe it's worth it for porn. . .haven't tried that yet.)

Even though we occasionally still consider watching a 3d movie, the matter of having to locate the disc rather than just enjoy the convenient access to all the 2d titles in the changers has kept us from doing it.

Likewise for non-Region-1 DVDs. We have several Region 2 and many Region 6 (mostly kung fu movies) discs that we would love to be able to browse from the remote, rather than have lying around in a box somewhere (because we really need to recover our bookshelf space to hold our books, rather than discs).

We don't pirate movies, but we own these discs legally and just want to be able to play them. We would love it if we could burn region-stripped copies of them to put in the changers. However, after trying several of the most widely recommended DVD copying programs using dozens of different methods and settings combinations, on a variety of computers and burner drives, with many different brands (Memorex, Taiyo Yuden, etc.) and types (DVD-R, +R, -RW) of media, we haven't succeeded in producing anything that the changer will play (sometimes, they have even caused a freeze that requires resetting the unit to factory defaults).

The same is true even when trying to make a direct copy of the B-side of a Region 1 disc. (The inability to play both sides of a 2-sided DVD without ejecting it, flipping, waiting for GraceNote before watching it, and then having to retype all the custom disc info when done was an annoyance we didn't forsee when purchasing the changer.)

I expect it's possible to make burns that will function in the player (we have a couple of commercial discs that look like they're probably back-alley dupes, but they work), but I haven't found a successful method yet and don't want to drop money blindly on another piece of burning software without details from someone who has succeeded.

If there is anyone who has had success with burning MegaChanger-playable copies of discs they own, I would welcome a private message to point me in the right direction. (Asking several trusted techie friends for advice yielded a few suggestions of "You need X product because it allows such and such which is probably causing your problem; it has never failed me and will handle anything you throw at it". The recommendations raised a lot of hope, but, in the end, just generated more polycarbonate coffee coasters as far as the Sony MegaChanger was concerned.)
post #2893 of 3313
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Originally Posted by wnl View Post

Although as my recent purchase of a UK import of Downton Abbey indicates, even some broadcast material is encoded at 24 fps on a Blu-ray.

If it's a UK Blu-ray import, the real risk is that it would be coded only for Region B playback. However, Wikipedia tells me that the majority of Blu-ray discs are released without any region code. (My guess is that most studios must have decided that the region coding on BD offers little benefit to their anti-piracy programs. Indeed, as there are only three BD regions globally, I suspect that the feature might not have even been intended for distribution control like DVD region coding was.)
post #2894 of 3313
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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

No more searching through shelves or having orphaned discs lying around loose because we misplaced the box.

I own 3 Sony 7000ES changers, and a HTPC Server (Server is one that I built, but anyone can build one). Oh, I only use one remote (Ipad). Control4 handles my Blu-ray changers, as well as 2 Sony 777ES DVD changers. The server currently handles my 1300 DVD's and 2000 CD's. (CD audio quality has been a problem, so I am testing out J River Media Center for the CD's http://www.jriver.com/ (J River has 30 day free trial, but it looks nice so far. Never heard of it? One of the recommended software at https://www.hdtracks.com/) Orginal plan was XBMC, but the Audio section needs lot of work, so I switched. Oh, get an Ipad. There is lot of good apps that you can download and use with your Stereo setup. DVD's I have a mix of PAL and NTSC, so I can't play via the DVD changers. J river is rather cool so far, because it is DLNA. I haven't looked at the video section of that software, but so far it looks fine for my needs on audio. Another software application that I am testing is Cyberlink PowerDVD 12. (This software will be primary for the DVD's of my collection, but it is a replacement for XBMC.) Power DVD upscales your DVD's to HD quality. ( I love J River for audio, so it is hard call.)

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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

We very much want to avoid having to deal with purchasing a HTPC and transferring our collection to harddrive (and also lose or break much of the menu functionality and special features of the original discs). If we were going to do that, we never would have purchased the changers in the first place.

Well, if you have a mix of PAL & NTSC on DVD, then your choices are limited. The Software players still give you access to menu's and special features...I used Cyberlink software back in 2008, and still had menu access to everything... Majority of the movies are now on Bluray, and I prefer using the changers for only bluray. Although, my issue is that I prefer the sound quality with HDMI to my receiver. There is a new Nvidia card, that is coming out in May. Supposed to be really nice quality, but we have to wait and see.


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Sure, we knew that the MegaChanger wouldn't support, for instance, our 3D Blu-ray discs, but that was a relatively minor issue. I figured that we would still have the PS3 for those rare occasions when we watch those. (I already regret having dropped half a week's wages on four pairs of glasses and a 3D sync transmitter only to find that the inconvenience outweighs the surprisingly slight enhancement of the viewing experience. Maybe it's worth it for porn. . .haven't tried that yet.)

Originally, Sony was supposed to provide a firmware upgrade for the megachangers for 3D. Although, it never came out. Anyway, a server will work for 3D, but that is up to you. I never tried it (no 3d tv), but I know Nvidia has a card for it. Software is Cyberlink PowerDVD 12 for 3D movies. A server will be there for 4K resolution. Hard drives was the format for the movie theaters in the past for 4K. We have to see what the cost on the new 4K tv's.


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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

We don't pirate movies, but we own these discs legally and just want to be able to play them. We would love it if we could burn region-stripped copies of them to put in the changers. However, after trying several of the most widely recommended DVD copying programs using dozens of different methods and settings combinations, on a variety of computers and burner drives, with many different brands (Memorex, Taiyo Yuden, etc.) and types (DVD-R, +R, -RW) of media, we haven't succeeded in producing anything that the changer will play (sometimes, they have even caused a freeze that requires resetting the unit to factory defaults).

The law changes daily on what is legal and illegal in regards to copying movies. They are HTPC servers available commercially. All my discs on the server, are just backups of my original movies. Anyway, I won't post a DVD copy program, because it has been posted in the past. Anyway, the burning program that works great for DVD and BD is free. IMGBURN is the software, and the author did have in the past a copy program that was free, but MPAA made him change it. So buringing is legal, but copy is not. The author has guides on how to do burn for BD-R's. The brand that I recommend for a burner is Pioneer. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...Drives/BDR-206 Media is simple... For DVD it is Ritek or Verbatim. BD-R media is Verbatim. Not all brands are manufactures of media, except maybe Ritek and Verbatim If cost is the issue for your using cheap media, then you might try Amazon.com.
(The key is how you burn the disc, On DVD the book type is different than BD-R) Anway, this guide will answer your questions. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4



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Originally Posted by whetstone1 View Post

The same is true even when trying to make a direct copy of the B-side of a Region 1 disc. (The inability to play both sides of a 2-sided DVD without ejecting it, flipping, waiting for GraceNote before watching it, and then having to retype all the custom disc info when done was an annoyance we didn't forsee when purchasing the changer.)

2 sided DVD's are rather rare, but it is better to have them on 2 discs. The only disc player that would do a flip was my old Pioneer laser disc. I don't know of a megachanger that will flip sides. Anyway, it is rather easy to make 2 disc for the 2 sided movies.
post #2895 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

2 sided DVD's are rather rare, but it is better to have them on 2 discs. The only disc player that would do a flip was my old Pioneer laser disc. I don't know of a megachanger that will flip sides. Anyway, it is rather easy to make 2 disc for the 2 sided movies.

They are rare, but I have a few in my collection. Let's just say that there are DVD copy programs available that would allow someone to rip a 2-sided DVD and burn the equivalent dual layer DVD....
post #2896 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

I own 3 Sony 7000ES changers, and a HTPC Server (Server is one that I built, but anyone can build one). Oh, I only use one remote (Ipad). Control4 handles my Blu-ray changers, as well as 2 Sony 777ES DVD changers. The server currently handles my 1300 DVD's and 2000 CD's. (CD audio quality has been a problem, so I am testing out J River Media Center for the CD's http://www.jriver.com/ (J River has 30 day free trial, but it looks nice so far. Never heard of it? One of the recommended software at https://www.hdtracks.com/) Orginal plan was XBMC, but the Audio section needs lot of work, so I switched. Oh, get an Ipad. There is lot of good apps that you can download and use with your Stereo setup. DVD's I have a mix of PAL and NTSC, so I can't play via the DVD changers. J river is rather cool so far, because it is DLNA. I haven't looked at the video section of that software, but so far it looks fine for my needs on audio. Another software application that I am testing is Cyberlink PowerDVD 12. (This software will be primary for the DVD's of my collection, but it is a replacement for XBMC.) Power DVD upscales your DVD's to HD quality. ( I love J River for audio, so it is hard call.)



Well, if you have a mix of PAL & NTSC on DVD, then your choices are limited. The Software players still give you access to menu's and special features...I used Cyberlink software back in 2008, and still had menu access to everything... Majority of the movies are now on Bluray, and I prefer using the changers for only bluray. Although, my issue is that I prefer the sound quality with HDMI to my receiver. There is a new Nvidia card, that is coming out in May. Supposed to be really nice quality, but we have to wait and see.




Originally, Sony was supposed to provide a firmware upgrade for the megachangers for 3D. Although, it never came out. Anyway, a server will work for 3D, but that is up to you. I never tried it (no 3d tv), but I know Nvidia has a card for it. Software is Cyberlink PowerDVD 12 for 3D movies. A server will be there for 4K resolution. Hard drives was the format for the movie theaters in the past for 4K. We have to see what the cost on the new 4K tv's.




The law changes daily on what is legal and illegal in regards to copying movies. They are HTPC servers available commercially. All my discs on the server, are just backups of my original movies. Anyway, I won't post a DVD copy program, because it has been posted in the past. Anyway, the burning program that works great for DVD and BD is free. IMGBURN is the software, and the author did have in the past a copy program that was free, but MPAA made him change it. So buringing is legal, but copy is not. The author has guides on how to do burn for BD-R's. The brand that I recommend for a burner is Pioneer. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...Drives/BDR-206 Media is simple... For DVD it is Ritek or Verbatim. BD-R media is Verbatim. Not all brands are manufactures of media, except maybe Ritek and Verbatim If cost is the issue for your using cheap media, then you might try Amazon.com.
(The key is how you burn the disc, On DVD the book type is different than BD-R) Anway, this guide will answer your questions. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4





2 sided DVD's are rather rare, but it is better to have them on 2 discs. The only disc player that would do a flip was my old Pioneer laser disc. I don't know of a megachanger that will flip sides. Anyway, it is rather easy to make 2 disc for the 2 sided movies.

You might want to check out Total Media Theater 5. I was using PowerDVD & did a trial of TMT & their upconverting on DVDs is the best I have seen. Even better than upconverted in my Oppo.

You can also check out mymovies.dk (free software) for your HTPC. They also have an iPad app that has a great remote that will work with TMT & my movies. It is the best I've seen for HTPC.

Also if you have any HD DVD left TMT will play them but PowerDVD won't.

Here's the link for Total Theater Media http://www.arcsoft.com/totalmedia-theatre/

Use the free trial & see the difference between upconverted DVDs vs PowerDVD. You'll never turn back. Same for mymovies.dk

I was going to use Cinemar but the other program is a lot better & easy to use & free. It was a no brainer. I tried both & stuck with mymovies.dk
post #2897 of 3313
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Originally Posted by marine92104 View Post

You might want to check out Total Media Theater 5. I was using PowerDVD & did a trial of TMT & their upconverting on DVDs is the best I have seen. Even better than upconverted in my Oppo.

You can also check out mymovies.dk (free software) for your HTPC. They also have an iPad app that has a great remote that will work with TMT & my movies. It is the best I've seen for HTPC.

Also if you have any HD DVD left TMT will play them but PowerDVD won't.

Here's the link for Total Theater Media http://www.arcsoft.com/totalmedia-theatre/

Use the free trial & see the difference between upconverted DVDs vs PowerDVD. You'll never turn back. Same for mymovies.dk

I was going to use Cinemar but the other program is a lot better & easy to use & free. It was a no brainer. I tried both & stuck with mymovies.dk

Yes, I know about TMT. I tried it before and had issues with bitstreaming True HD audio. I current use mymovies to catalog the collection, but Control4 does my home automation setup and I can control everything with the Ipad. Which my movies and Cinemar can't do. My Denon 5308 also has Silicon Optix Announces Realta Chip, so all HDMI inputs on the receiver can be upconverted to 1080P. I probably don't have the input set to 1080P on the receiver. I have to check that. Control4 can control my dvd changers, but I have some that are PAL. When I looked into My movies back a few years ago. It wouldn't support all my changers with Windows 7 -64 bit. Looks like that issue still exists today.
http://www.mymovies.dk/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=29460
Although, for me Control4 is the best overall solution.


Ok, I checked my Denon 5308, and the installed had changed the setting to Auto for hdmi convert. To get 1080P, then it needs to be set on 1080P. So now it works fine.
post #2898 of 3313
My Movies now supports the Sony DVP-CX777ES under Windows 7 64-bit per the latest pre-release, My Movies 4.03 PR3. This latest update also resolved the issues I was having with My Movies and my Sony BDP-CX7000ES which I describe in detail in that same post (a.k.a. fdavis71).
post #2899 of 3313
Just tried to prod information out of Sony regarding firmware updates and got this:

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Thank you for contacting Sony Support.

I understand your concern regarding the 400 Disc Blu-ray Disc / DVD MegaChanger. Currently, there is no firmware update available for the DVD MegaChanger to add 3D feature. However, I will forward your request to our Sustaining Engineering team, they might consider your request in a future update.

Thank you for understanding.

Sony of Canada, Ltd.
C3MX
Levi
post #2900 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Low Profile View Post

My Movies now supports the Sony DVP-CX777ES under Windows 7 64-bit per the latest pre-release, My Movies 4.03 PR3. This latest update also resolved the issues I was having with My Movies and my Sony BDP-CX7000ES which I describe in detail in that same post (a.k.a. fdavis71).

So you are going to replace your 6 Sony DVP-CX985V DVD changers to 6 Sony DVP-CX777ES? The current Ebay price is around 400+? I own 2 of them, and the price then was $550 new. Actually, a friend of mine doesn't trust her kids enough, because they have put maple syrup in the audio equipment. I only by used equipment if it was still in the box, but it is rare to find. Anyway, Majority of the movies are now being converted to BD, except some of the older TV episodes. I have replaced most of DVD's to Blu-ray. The best time to buy Blu-ray is on Black Friday or during Christmas time from Amazon. Anyway, I just checked and Control4 does have a driver for your Sony DVP-CX985V. The driver is called "DVP-CX985V [IR]". If I was you, then post over in the http://www.c4forums.com to see if that driver would better for you. There is a little more cost involved with Control4, but it is a better solution. Currently, my 5 changers (3) Sony BDP-CX7000ES and 2 Sony DVP-CX777ES runs off an HC-300 and an IO-Extender. Oh, I use the Ipad as the remote. The HC-300 comes with it's own remote, but the Ipad does it for me. Although, now the HC-800 is out, so it will be better with larger media collections..
post #2901 of 3313
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Just tried to prod information out of Sony regarding firmware updates and got this:

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Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post

Just tried to prod information out of Sony regarding firmware updates and got this:

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Thank you for contacting Sony Support.

I understand your concern regarding the 400 Disc Blu-ray Disc / DVD MegaChanger. Currently, there is no firmware update available for the DVD MegaChanger to add 3D feature. However, I will forward your request to our Sustaining Engineering team, they might consider your request in a future update.

Thank you for understanding.

Sony of Canada, Ltd.
C3MX
Levi

So what this means is that everyone in the forum needs to email Sony to get the 3D firmware update.
post #2902 of 3313
How about everyone pound Sony to get direct disc access on the 960's

-R
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

So what this means is that everyone in the forum needs to email Sony to get the 3D firmware update.

I have emailed Sony several times in the past that the firmware needs to be updated. I have a couple of Blurays that don't play in the 960 but they play on my PS3. They said they'll give the message to the engineers. The last time they updated the firmware was 5/12/11.
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Originally Posted by RobAGD View Post

How about everyone pound Sony to get direct disc access on the 960's

-R

Control4 does have a 960 driver too. BDP-CX960 [IR] (I don't own a 960, so don't know if these drivers work or not. Typically, Control4 installs via RS232.) There is huge list of drivers for changers, that is on the Control4 site. http://www.control4.com/partner/drivers/
Also, there are developers out there that created third party drivers for other hardware.
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Originally Posted by bmerk2010 View Post

I have emailed Sony several times in the past that the firmware needs to be updated. I have a couple of Blurays that don't play in the 960 but they play on my PS3. They said they'll give the message to the engineers. The last time they updated the firmware was 5/12/11.

Just need to find the engineers that create the drivers. I know they have a huge presence on facebook. If you start filling their email box with thousands of requests, then sony starts to respond. Squeeky wheel gets the grease!
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

...... I current use mymovies to catalog the collection, but Control4 does my home automation setup and I can control everything with the Ipad. Which my movies and Cinemar can't do.

What in your home automation system can Cinemar not do? I control every piece of equipment in my theater, including a projector lens and curtain with Cinemar working from my IPAD. I select the movie, the aspect ratio, screen masking, and lens deploy as appropriate and the movie plays. Their system also controls my room lighting, volume, DirecTV, and Netflix all from my IPAD without having to change apps, lighting is controlled without even leaving the movie control screen.

Just wondering what I'm missing?
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

Control4 does have a 960 driver too. BDP-CX960 [IR] (I don't own a 960, so don't know if these drivers work or not. Typically, Control4 installs via RS232.) There is huge list of drivers for changers, that is on the Control4 site. http://www.control4.com/partner/drivers/
Also, there are developers out there that created third party drivers for other hardware.

Ok color me a little ignorant on the Control4 stuff, but is that a NEW driver you push to the device or is it a driver you use install on a control device to run the device ?

I use DVD Profiler and the guy that does a lot of the integrated controls for Changers said there are no direct IR codes for direct disc access on the 960's

I would like to find someone with a C4 and a 960 to get some answers on that.

-Robert
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

What in your home automation system can Cinemar not do? I control every piece of equipment in my theater, including a projector lens and curtain with Cinemar working from my IPAD. I select the movie, the aspect ratio, screen masking, and lens deploy as appropriate and the movie plays. Their system also controls my room lighting, volume, DirecTV, and Netflix all from my IPAD without having to change apps, lighting is controlled without even leaving the movie control screen.

Just wondering what I'm missing?

I couldn't answer what Cinemar can't do. Honestly, when I looked at Cinemar, the website design was very poor. (Actually still poor) I rather be able to look at something quickly than try to figure out the functions of the system. Also, no dealer in my area stocks it. I like to look at something, before I spend the money on it. I can control my thermostat from my ipad, heat and cold. You can change the temperature based on the seasons, time of day or outside temperature. http://www.control4.com/residential/solutions/energy/
My installer told me about this new audio/video intercom that he installed for another client. http://www.control4.com/residential/...ts/interfaces/
All apps are in my Control4 app for the ipad.

Here is a free magazine showing various devices that you can control. Perhaps you can use this to compare systems. Does Cinemar have Kitchen control? http://www.control4.com/files/market...Spring2012.pdf
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Originally Posted by RobAGD View Post

Ok color me a little ignorant on the Control4 stuff, but is that a NEW driver you push to the device or is it a driver you use install on a control device to run the device ?

I use DVD Profiler and the guy that does a lot of the integrated controls for Changers said there are no direct IR codes for direct disc access on the 960's

I would like to find someone with a C4 and a 960 to get some answers on that.

-Robert

Control4 requires a hardware control. The driver would be installed via an installer, he would setup your system. The driver is located in the HC-300. I have the HC-300, and it comes with a remote. I don't own a 960, but I saw it in the driver list. You would need to contact Control4 to find the capability of that driver. Go to your local dealer and ask the questions. My setup include 3 (Sony BDP-7000ES Changers). Mine is controlled via RS-232. Honestly a few months ago, it was cheaper to get the 7000's than the 960's.
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Originally Posted by Nitro67 View Post

I couldn't answer what Cinemar can't do. Honestly, when I looked at Cinemar, the website design was very poor. (Actually still poor) I rather be able to look at something quickly than try to figure out the functions of the system. Also, no dealer in my area stocks it. I like to look at something, before I spend the money on it. I can control my thermostat from my ipad, heat and cold. You can change the temperature based on the seasons, time of day or outside temperature. http://www.control4.com/residential/solutions/energy/
My installer told me about this new audio/video intercom that he installed for another client. http://www.control4.com/residential/...ts/interfaces/
All apps are in my Control4 app for the ipad.

Here is a free magazine showing various devices that you can control. Perhaps you can use this to compare systems. Does Cinemar have Kitchen control? http://www.control4.com/files/market...Spring2012.pdf

Thanks for the additional info. It appears you have invested in Control4 for automation beyond A/V, I did not catch that in your previous post. Cinemar does offer temp controls, but would not sync with Control4.

I did not read your post correctly, as I was thinking you were choosing My Movies over Cinemar, but what you chose was a combination of Control4 and My Movies in lieu of Cinemar. The combination sounds like it works great and you are happy. It seems like another good alternative to just going with what the 7000ES offers out of the box.
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