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post #3061 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

That is good to know. So 13 cents per GB and at 50 GB that is $6.50 a BD. That is not so bad. So $2,600 to replace a changer which is why I think the changer makes a lot of sense for BD, not as much sense for DVD which is how I built my system.
Thanks for the very useful information.smile.gif

My Hitachi 2TB drives are the Sata 2 drives (3.0Gb/sec) I got mine rather cheap, but looks like you can still buy them. So, those be less in cost around .06 cents per GB, so about 50GB is $3. The other price was based on Sata 3 (6Gb/sec) hard drives, but you are right BD for now is cheaper on the changers. Just the supply changers is rather small now.
post #3062 of 3313
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I was just kidding and thought that price was so absurd that people would know I was kidding. Apparently, there are those who are trying to exploit and profit from the limited supply of these unique products. I will be holding onto mine and only replacing it when I am comfortable that I can have a HTPC solution that will meet all my requirements. smile.gif
I thought you were kidding until I checked it out on amazon, eek.gif the gougers !!
you'd want to be mad, despirate or loaded to pay that smile.gif
Turns out that jvb, 220-electronics regioncodefreedvd.com are all out of stock of these players, probably permanently.
so the only option now is on ebay, which is governed by "buyer beware"
Given the real fast internet download speeds these days (great for big GByte files), I'm probably never going to have a bluray collection anything as big as my dvd collection anyway, I have a region free DVP-CX777es which is almost full and it would have been nice to have its bluray equivalent, but cant see it happening now..
post #3063 of 3313
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Originally Posted by davelillis View Post

Given the real fast internet download speeds these days (great for big GByte files), I'm probably never going to have a bluray collection anything as big as my dvd collection anyway, I have a region free DVP-CX777es which is almost full and it would have been nice to have its bluray equivalent, but cant see it happening now..

If you are in the USA or most parts of the world. There is new campaign against people downloading movies or audio content off the internet.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/major-isps-turn-into-copyright-police-by-july-says-riaa/
This article says July 12, but started before July 1.
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post #3065 of 3313
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No! This is not legislation that is brought on by the government. The ISP's are monitoring you and trying to educate you or cut off your access.
Edited by Nitro67 - 7/4/12 at 6:04pm
post #3066 of 3313
well, I don't know about US laws, they don't apply here anyway unless enacted here, Never heard of an isp here complaining about download content, all they care about is you exceeding the download limit from what I see, so that can charge you for it.

Anyway, I didn't mean for this to go off topic, anyone interested in selling a region free BDP-CX7000ES, send me a message,

Thanks
Dave.
post #3067 of 3313
Well, after 2 weeks + (post repair) of flawless operation the BDP-CX7000ES is finally living up to the performance promise that I envisioned when I bought it at a bargain basement price from the Sony Outlet Store last year. It is unfortunate that no manufacturer is stepping up to building a similar product. I suppose the 7000ES was overpriced at MSRP but I thought the 960 was very reasonably priced and should have been much more in demand.

In any case, I'm happy to have the unit working and look forward to driving it till it drops.cool.gif
Edited by RMK! - 7/10/12 at 12:06pm
post #3068 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Low Profile View Post


Only the Collection Management (CM) application for My Movies is available on OS X and unlike the Windows 7 version of CM, the version for OS X only offers the equivelant of "DVD Profiler" basically if you are familiar with that application. From the CM application you then have the ability to export that data to your iPhone/iPad via iTunes for use with the My Movies Pro iPhone/iPad applications. That is the extent of the My Movies product for OS X. On Windows 7 the CM application also provides the backend for the My Movies for Windows Media Center product. Within My Movies for Windows Media Center you are able to browse your collection, then selecting and playing a given title whether that be an online title (rip) or offline title (disc residing in a supported BD/DVD changer) and again, so long as Windows Media Center is actively running you are also able to use the My Movies Pro iPhone/iPad applications instead to browse your collection, then selecting and playing a given title. Keep in mind as well that the given title does not actually play on the iPhone/iPad. If it's an online title it will still play on the HTPC running Windows Media Center. It it's an offline title residing in a supported BD/DVD changer it will play from the changer of course.


The above would only apply to My Movies, it seems My movies is using Microsoft developer model, so it requires Media center to be run in the background. That is the reason that you don't see a My movies version of Mac OS X. J river has been migrating their source code away from the Microsoft model. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=72849.0 So in the future, you will see J River being run on Mac OS X.

Can you run a Sony BDP-CX 7000ES changer on Mac OS X? Yes, I recently spoke with technical support at Savant Systems, which is an Mac OS X based home automation system. Savant has a driver to run the Sony BDP-CX 7000ES megachanger in Mac OS X. Savant is very fast with the Ipad, but it is rather expensive. Another alternative is to develop a driver for the Sony BDP-CX 7000ES changer, and use J River Media center.
post #3069 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

Nitro67,
I use a HTPC in conjunction with the 7000es and it does work smooth. What do you believe the cost is of storing a complete BD on a hard drive? In other words the cost of having as much as 50GB with appropriate backup?
I have just purchased the JRiver to play HD audio. I found the IPAD control ok. There appears to be a lot of flexibility to the software. Since the changer does not play Flac files, this appears to be another advantage of such integration, however I have not found anything that sounds as good as music from a BD playing in 5.1 from the changer.
Thanks,

Noah,

J River is developing Media Center 18, and you can get the latest version for 18.98 upgrade fee. Here is the post on it. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73516.0 J river also has a feature request thread for Media Center 18, so if you want any updates or more features then post in that thread. J river is also developing a Mac OS X version for Media Center 18, and supposed to be out at the end of the year. It will initially, be audio only. I did request for Sony Changer control, but it is under my other nick name on J river's forum. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php

Savant Systems can control the Sony 7000ES changers through Mac OS X now, so yes it can done. J river just needs the features to be added to do it. The best way to control those changers is RS-232.
post #3070 of 3313
My 7000 was returned from Laredo today and I would not call the experience totally positive. I sent it in after experiencing some invalid disc issues and included a letter asking for the optical drive to be replaced (as described here). After a few days I talked with the tech who was working on the unit and he refused to replace the drive until he could duplicate the problem there. It took a call to customer support to over rule him and get them to replace the drive.
The work order that came in the box today does not specify any parts replaced so I have only their word that the optical drive was actually replaced. Maybe Sony has changed their policy on replacing the optical drive due to the quantity of units that have been sent in? On the positive side I did find a couple of customer service reps that are still dedicated to customer satisfaction and they did send it back overnight fedex which was good.
post #3071 of 3313
Question: If your optical drive was replaced by Sony Laredo under warranty did it show the part number on the included work sheet in the box? The only paper work included in the boxI received showed only the serial and model number and indicated NC for labor and parts. Does it show the specific model number of the optical drive in the service menu?
post #3072 of 3313
Got a surprise today.
Every Sony changer I've installed or come across over the years, including my 6 changers, have the ability to access a disc via the keypad. Hit a disc search button or similar, enter the disc number, select, and you're on your way. My customer has the CX960, and needs to be able to use this feature. I was amazed that you can not do it. I called Sony twice, to be certain, and they verified it was not possible. Of course, you spin the dial and select a disc, or use the next disc feature (a pain going from number 1 to 200). My customer cannot read the little display on the changer, or use the on screen gui, his vision is not that good. He has an older 400 CD changer that allows the keypad access, so he's familiar with that procedure (he's a retired Marine, 82 and still kicking!). Most of my customers use the on screen gui or just spin the dial, so never ran across this till now. Just assumed you could do it.
Has anyone else been successful with a workaround?
Thanks
Dan
post #3073 of 3313
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Originally Posted by DanKurts View Post

Got a surprise today.
Every Sony changer I've installed or come across over the years, including my 6 changers, have the ability to access a disc via the keypad. Hit a disc search button or similar, enter the disc number, select, and you're on your way. My customer has the CX960, and needs to be able to use this feature. I was amazed that you can not do it. I called Sony twice, to be certain, and they verified it was not possible. Of course, you spin the dial and select a disc, or use the next disc feature (a pain going from number 1 to 200). My customer cannot read the little display on the changer, or use the on screen gui, his vision is not that good. He has an older 400 CD changer that allows the keypad access, so he's familiar with that procedure (he's a retired Marine, 82 and still kicking!). Most of my customers use the on screen gui or just spin the dial, so never ran across this till now. Just assumed you could do it.
Has anyone else been successful with a workaround?
Thanks
Dan

No workaround short of upgrading to the Sony BDP-CX7000ES and implementing IP or RS-232 control and even then you'd have to create an input program for his remote that allows for entering the slot number in order to execute the appropriate IP or RS-232 command. That being said, with the Sony BDP-CX7000ES you could implement one of the 3rd party solutions out there for browsing the discs in the changer as the on-screen gui's offered are much easier to see versus Sony's XMB interface. Most if not all the 3rd party solutions also allow for viewing and navigating their interface on a tablet instead.
Edited by Low Profile - 8/27/12 at 5:58am
post #3074 of 3313
Have a "new" Refurbished 960...phew

After a power outage lasting approximately 1 min., the 960 starts back up and flashes "PLEASE WAIT" continuely.... 1 min.... 2 imn... 10+ min., ok somethings wrong. Unplugged and let sit. Plugged back in and more "PLEASE WAIT".... Finally, called Sony and was told to send to Texas for repair. Shipped it off, discs in machine and all.... After a couple of confusing emails, get a call from technician to say can't be repaired (I am assuming in a timely manner), so they can send a refurbished machine as replacement.... OK, but what about my discs in the machine? He says, " you have 181 discs and they will come with machine". Wow, about a week later, machine shows up and it is working... GREAT!

So, after spending 2 plus hours waiting on Gracenotes, 21 (6 of which were DVD-R's of family video) were NOT found, not too bad.... Now using the "wonderful" Sony labeling menus (YUCK!), spending an evening labeling the discs. I now have a working 960 again...YEAH!

This process leads to some of observations...
1. Good unit, just a little phinicky with power issues.
2. Sony needs some Software Engineering HELP.... (what I do for a living)
3. I am still very happy with this unit and it sure beats the maintenance of having a server based setup (at least with current technology).
post #3075 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Taz50thVette View Post

Have a "new" Refurbished 960...phew
After a power outage lasting approximately 1 min., the 960 starts back up and flashes "PLEASE WAIT" continuely.... 1 min.... 2 imn... 10+ min., ok somethings wrong. Unplugged and let sit. Plugged back in and more "PLEASE WAIT".... Finally, called Sony and was told to send to Texas for repair. Shipped it off, discs in machine and all.... After a couple of confusing emails, get a call from technician to say can't be repaired (I am assuming in a timely manner), so they can send a refurbished machine as replacement.... OK, but what about my discs in the machine? He says, " you have 181 discs and they will come with machine". Wow, about a week later, machine shows up and it is working... GREAT!
So, after spending 2 plus hours waiting on Gracenotes, 21 (6 of which were DVD-R's of family video) were NOT found, not too bad.... Now using the "wonderful" Sony labeling menus (YUCK!), spending an evening labeling the discs. I now have a working 960 again...YEAH!
This process leads to some of observations...
1. Good unit, just a little phinicky with power issues.
2. Sony needs some Software Engineering HELP.... (what I do for a living)
3. I am still very happy with this unit and it sure beats the maintenance of having a server based setup (at least with current technology).

You are a software engineer ... and you shipped your unit to Sony with your media in it ???
post #3076 of 3313
Yep....trusting, aren't I... or maybe foolish.... lol. Had "one of those weeks" when everything went to hell in a hand basket and had 3 other projects that had to get done. All turned out for the good, so, I am greatful.
post #3077 of 3313
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Yep....trusting, aren't I... or maybe foolish.... lol. Had "one of those weeks" when everything went to hell in a hand basket and had 3 other projects that had to get done. All turned out for the good, so, I am greatful.

Me too, when these jukeboxes work as advertised they are the best thing going for hassle free all media access and most importantly, HD picture/audio. smile.gif
post #3078 of 3313
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by davelillis View Post

well, I don't know about US laws, they don't apply here anyway unless enacted here, Never heard of an isp here complaining about download content, all they care about is you exceeding the download limit from what I see, so that can charge you for it.
Anyway, I didn't mean for this to go off topic, anyone interested in selling a region free BDP-CX7000ES, send me a message,
Thanks
Dave.

Here is another option http://www.jvbdigital.nl/jvb.asp?cur=2&level=modifications&page=title&title=1118 . I've worked with them in the past and have always been pleased. Too bad the DIY kit is not available for this unit.

Thanks,

Nick cool.gif
post #3079 of 3313
Hi,
I got my hands on a region free'd 7000ES, and wow, what a machine,
I've noted that some don't like the user interface on it, well you should see what a cats dinner Sony did with the dvp-cx777es in comparison,
The dvp-cx777es requires you to use an excel spreadsheet, there is just no other manageable way, not so with the 7000es thankfully, its almost PS3 style gui isn't too bad as I can find a disk easily .

The only gripe I have with it is that it does take a time to read a disk after the carousel has rotated and selected the disk, my old ps3 starts the blurays abit faster, but its something I can live with as I know of other bluray players where you be waiting quiet a while before the disk starts playing. DVD read speeds are fine.

The remote is user friendly and not cluttered with infrequently used buttons unlike its earlier dvd changer remote predecessors.

Its almost like Sony spent the last 10 years perfecting these 400 disk machines, and were nine tenths of the way to making a perfect dvd/bluray changer and then canned the lot.
I think that's a real pity !!
Edited by davelillis - 9/10/12 at 5:57am
post #3080 of 3313
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Me too, when these jukeboxes work as advertised they are the best thing going for hassle free all media access and most importantly, HD picture/audio. smile.gif

Hey, RMK. Is that a Jack Russell Terrier in your Avatar? I've got a wire-haired JRT, and what an amazing animal. Cute, too.

I've been swearing by multi-disc changers for years. I've compared them directly with some very high end players, and they don't suffer at all in comparison. Audio and Video.

Good luck with the changer. And with the JRT.

Thanks,

Nick cool.gif
post #3081 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Nick Satullo View Post

Hey, RMK. Is that a Jack Russell Terrier in your Avatar? I've got a wire-haired JRT, and what an amazing animal. Cute, too.
I've been swearing by multi-disc changers for years. I've compared them directly with some very high end players, and they don't suffer at all in comparison. Audio and Video.
Good luck with the changer. And with the JRT.
Thanks,
Nick cool.gif

Hi Nick,

Yep, that is a rough coat Parsons JRT (longer legs than a standard JRT). Ajax is the best dog I have ever had the pleasure of serving...tongue.gifwink.gif

Bad news on the Sony changer. This weekend it went south on me and will no longer read any disks in the drive. I have a call into Sony and will probably be sending it back one more time. What a PITA ... mad.gif
post #3082 of 3313
Hi all.... I'm from the UK and finally gearing-up to have a dedicated home cinema (theater) setup, after years n years of having surround sound around a TV that the whole family uses.

I have been a long-time admirer of the Sony Mega-Changers first with DVDs, and then with Blu Rays. Of course Sony UK never thought to offer such machines here unfortunately mad.gif

But back to the present day.... and I have been offered the chance to purchase a 2nd-hand American BDP-CX960 unit!
.....But I just wish that I had been offerred this machine, BEFORE I added approximately 50 Region B (Europe) Blu Rays to my media collection! D'Oh!

So my question is..... is there a Region-Hack for the BDP-CX960, which would allow me to play my 50 Region B Blu Ray discs, in a US-origin Region A BDP-CX960 ?
Come to think of it... is there a Region-Hack available for the BDP-CX7000ES model... if needs be, I would pass on the CX960 that I could buy now... and try to get a 7000ES somehow instead ?

And, yes I have tried searching this thread, and Google for the answer to my question.... so although I might be a Newbie here... I'm not your average, typically lazy Noob! LOL wink.gif

Thanks in advance for any help, guys!

John
post #3083 of 3313
You can still buy the CX7000ES and Google search works fine for me, but the CX7000ES region-free is only available at merchants in the USA which means costly shipping for you and although the units are dual voltage you'll still need plug adapters.

http://www.220-electronics.com/dvd/sony_multi_region_blu_ray_bdpcx7000es.htm (package 2 is optional)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BDP-CX7000ES-Blu-Ray-HDTV-BDPCX7000es-Region-Free-Region-Free-DVD-Changer-/221108453753 (slightly overpriced if you ask me)

Now those are the BDP-CX7000ES but am not sure the other one is still available region-free, a quick search here found nothing.

The region-free works as follows on this machine. By default all DVD's are region-free but for Blu-ray you have to select the region before switching on using the remote. However the mod doesn't convert PAL DVD's to NTSC and vice-versa, so either an adapter or a bi-standard TV is needed.

On the remote to activate the mod for Blu-ray: 1 for A and 2 for B (your area), then switch on. The default when the unit arrives is B according to the leaflet included. If you ever update the firmware you have to take care to switch the unit on to the right region mode for that firmware before updating.

Sony are noticeably slow at updating firmware, however, and I haven't seen one since I got my unit nearly a year ago. (20 is the latest for the USA/Canada, not sure what it is for UK etc.)

I found that the BDP-CX7000ES will handle 2 separate indices of disks, 1 for region A and 1 for region B, but inputting is rather fiddly and often needs to be repeated in both modes so you know which disk is which. I usually include a hint in the title manually so I know at a glance.

My only beefs at the machine are A) unlike earlier models there is no keyboard input socket so everything is keyed in on the remote and the screen, unless Gracenote got the info for you, which doesn't always happen (never happens for home-made disks) & B) You need a spare flash memory stick (8gb is ample) to plug in the back to allow the unit to remember disk data and for BD-Live content etc.






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Edited by Ex_Brit - 9/15/12 at 4:32am
post #3084 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post

You can still buy the CX7000ES and Google search works fine for me, but the CX7000ES region-free is only available at merchants in the USA which means costly shipping for you and although the units are dual voltage you'll still need plug adapters.
http://www.220-electronics.com/dvd/sony_multi_region_blu_ray_bdpcx7000es.htm (package 2 is optional)

A friend of mine checked into this and said it wasn't available. I am not sure, but it is rather expensive.
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Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post

Sony are noticeably slow at updating firmware, however, and I haven't seen one since I got my unit nearly a year ago. (20 is the latest for the USA/Canada, not sure what it is for UK etc.)
Sony is not updating the firmware. The only option is to use Control4, because MyMovies has recently quit supporting the changers as well.

Another option is to build you an HTPC with serveral drives. My drives are on my other server, but with Thunderbolt you can place the drives away from the HTPC. I built one that has a passive power supply, it is rather quiet. Only noise is coming from the Cpu fan, but I upgrade that to a passive fan soon. I built mine primary for DVD, and my audio collection. I use J River media center as the software, and it works out great. I have the (3) Sony 7000ES changers as well.
post #3085 of 3313
My Movies has not recently quit supporting Sony changers. Support for the Sony BDP-CX7000ES and Sony DVP-CX777ES is still going strong. In fact, the last several updates have addressed a few long standing issues I've been experiencing with the changer support. Everything is working perfectly for me now. Support was even added recently for the Sony DVP-CX777ES with My Movies installations running on Windows 7 64-bit. That being said, if you already have a HTPC running Windows 7 the My Movies solution is an excellent option if you own a Sony changer with RS-232 capability. It's a very simple solution to implement and very affordable. The software is free to download and use. Does require you register an account. The changer functionality is locked out requiring that your account have 2,500 points. Points can be earned by contributing title information to the web service with the Collection Management program or you can simply pay for the 2,500 points outright which is what I did. The $100 was well worth the price of admission.
post #3086 of 3313
I'm afraid the end draws nigh for my 7000es ... it is on it's way to Laredo for one last attempt at repair of strangely quirky unit. My hope is that I can get another year out of the unit but the last repair where they replaced the BR Drive and the "Table Assembly" lasted less than 2 months before the drive gave up. After working flawlessly for 5-6 weeks it out of the blu (pun intended) refused to recognize any bluray disks . It did load and play a ripped DVD of the Beatles Love DVD (go figure) so I believe the problem is in the drive itself. If I had paid retail for this unit (like I did for the 960 I bought prior to the 7000) I'd be pissed.
post #3087 of 3313
This is very sad and frustrating news!
Curious how long you have owned the unit, and how heavily it is used?

(I am in year #2 with a 960 and we watch only 2~3 discs per week, just wondering when to expect end-of-life)
post #3088 of 3313
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

This is very sad and frustrating news!
Curious how long you have owned the unit, and how heavily it is used?
(I am in year #2 with a 960 and we watch only 2~3 discs per week, just wondering when to expect end-of-life)

I've had the unit for 1.5 years and my usage is about the same as yours on average. I really thought the last repair had done the trick as the unrecognized disk problems seemed resolved but as it turned out the "fix" only lasted for a few weeks.

Sony picked up the return shipping this time and I'm trying to stay optomistic because when it works (important caveat), it is a nice piece of gear.
post #3089 of 3313
Wow...some of you are having much better luck than me!
I have been through 2, yes 2 7000ES Players. Neither of them had more than 10 minutes of play time!

The first unit out of the box did not recognize almost half of the 380 Blu Ray DVDs I loaded (what a pain to load and then remove them). Since it was a new unit, I swapped it out for another new unit. Brought that unit home and, it had multiple issues. First off, it also did not recognize a number of Blu Rays. To make matters worse, it gave me the dreaded 8003 error code and another code. Since new units are tough to come by (the store was unable to find another new unit) so I sent this one off to Laredo. Had great support and follow up while it was there. They replaced the optical drive, motherboard, and pickup (I believe there were 4 parts total on the invoice). Got the unit back and loaded up 10 Blu-Ray DVDs. All were recognized. I never thought I would ever be this excited because my DVD player recognized DVDs as being DVDs. Convinced everything would be working ok, I loaded about 390 Blu Rays DVDs into the slots (more painstaking time). I then selected LOAD ALL DISCs and walked away; figuring this would take hours to complete. About 40 minutes later I walked by and noticed the power was off. That's strange...can't imagine it loaded all DVDs with Gracenote that quickly. Went to power the unit back on and got a PLEASE WAIT. I hear the carousel going back and forth, back and forth. Then it powered off. Tried to power it on again and got the 8003 error code again.

I am convinced that Sony knows there is a big problem and there is no real fix. Mine has never worked properly out of the box. At any rate, called my contact in Laredo, who was apologetic and nice about it, but all they could do was offer to fix it again. I am throwing in my hat and calling it quits. I heard the first unit I purchased was sent to Laredo to be fixed and they just replaced the optical drive. They sold that unit as a demo unit to a customer. WIthin 1 month the customer came back because it wasn't working properly.
post #3090 of 3313
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Originally Posted by lthlvpr View Post

Wow...some of you are having much better luck than me!
I have been through 2, yes 2 7000ES Players. Neither of them had more than 10 minutes of play time!
The first unit out of the box did not recognize almost half of the 380 Blu Ray DVDs I loaded (what a pain to load and then remove them). Since it was a new unit, I swapped it out for another new unit. Brought that unit home and, it had multiple issues. First off, it also did not recognize a number of Blu Rays. To make matters worse, it gave me the dreaded 8003 error code and another code. Since new units are tough to come by (the store was unable to find another new unit) so I sent this one off to Laredo. Had great support and follow up while it was there. They replaced the optical drive, motherboard, and pickup (I believe there were 4 parts total on the invoice). Got the unit back and loaded up 10 Blu-Ray DVDs. All were recognized. I never thought I would ever be this excited because my DVD player recognized DVDs as being DVDs. Convinced everything would be working ok, I loaded about 390 Blu Rays DVDs into the slots (more painstaking time). I then selected LOAD ALL DISCs and walked away; figuring this would take hours to complete. About 40 minutes later I walked by and noticed the power was off. That's strange...can't imagine it loaded all DVDs with Gracenote that quickly. Went to power the unit back on and got a PLEASE WAIT. I hear the carousel going back and forth, back and forth. Then it powered off. Tried to power it on again and got the 8003 error code again.
I am convinced that Sony knows there is a big problem and there is no real fix. Mine has never worked properly out of the box. At any rate, called my contact in Laredo, who was apologetic and nice about it, but all they could do was offer to fix it again. I am throwing in my hat and calling it quits. I heard the first unit I purchased was sent to Laredo to be fixed and they just replaced the optical drive. They sold that unit as a demo unit to a customer. WIthin 1 month the customer came back because it wasn't working properly.

Wow is right, I did not think it was possible for anyone to make me feel fortunate about my 7000ES expierence ... but you have ...tongue.gif

Hope springs eternal in the HT hobiest heart. smile.gif
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