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post #481 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Jeffg8 View Post

Saw my first 960 tonight in best buy. Its as large as most receivers. Tempting as I have coupons this week, I was just planning on the LG390 or Pio320....I haven't got my new onkyo receiver in the rack yet let alone a blue ray that size.

Just checked their web site and nothing...Haven't seen it at any bb store either...must have a special bb in your area...
post #482 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Binnerup View Post

Hi all,

I can now confirm that My Movies 3, when released on October 22'nd will have basic support for the BDP-CX7000ES.

Basic support means that you in the Collection Management program add titles from our WebService, and mark which slot in the changer the title is in.

There will be a plug-in structure available by the release, allowing users to create .NET dll plug-ins that receives an event when a disc is loaded, to automatically switch inputs from the Media Center PC to the input the changer is connected to.

I hope that we later on will be able to extend the functionality to allow the program to automatically go through each disc in the changer, and index and add them automatically, as well as remove/change the title repository whenever a change of discs occurs in the changer.

Similar, we would like to improve the implementation to allow the plug-ins to receive events when discs are stopped, allowing the plug-ins to switch the input back to the Media Center PC.

But, the changer is now going to be supported with basic operation that will be enough for most people.

Regards,

Brian Binnerup
My Movies

So Brian, what the software will do is to amalgamate the movies in the changer with those on a Media Center PC hard drive to create one movie library which can be displayed on your tv or movie screen? (although you will need to manually enter the movie for look up of meta data for now)

You can then select the movie on the hard drive or in the changer that is displayed on the screen. How is this controlled? Via a rs232 remote or a tablet? Are their folks from your company that could recommend a Media Center PC? Any screen shots of the new gui yet?
post #483 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

So Brian, what the software will do is to amalgamate the movies in the changer with those on a Media Center PC hard drive to create one movie library which can be displayed on your tv or movie screen? (although you will need to manually enter the movie for look up of meta data for now)

First of all, it will give you a much more appealing interface than the Sony changer itself - this means larger covers, browse by genres, custom filters, sort options, ect. ect.

Then, optionally, it lets you browse not only titles in the changer, but also offline titles (on shelf), titles stored on harddrive or network storage.

You can say that the adding of data is partly manual - you must add the titles to your collection manually, but all the data is already in our webservice, including cover arts, ect. ect. Hopefully, later we will be able to extend it to automatically detect all titles in the changer.

Here is a few images:





post #484 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

So Brian, what the software will do is to amalgamate the movies in the changer with those on a Media Center PC hard drive to create one movie library which can be displayed on your tv or movie screen? (although you will need to manually enter the movie for look up of meta data for now)

You can then select the movie on the hard drive or in the changer that is displayed on the screen. How is this controlled? Via a rs232 remote or a tablet? Are their folks from your company that could recommend a Media Center PC? Any screen shots of the new gui yet?

Noah,

It's controlled either from the media center PC with the remote or a media center extender like the XBOX 360 connected to Vista or Windows 7
post #485 of 3313
[quote=Binnerup;17335408]First of all, it will give you a much more appealing interface than the Sony changer itself - this means larger covers, browse by genres, custom filters, sort options, ect. ect.

Then, optionally, it lets you browse not only titles in the changer, but also offline titles (on shelf), titles stored on harddrive or network storage.

You can say that the adding of data is partly manual - you must add the titles to your collection manually, but all the data is already in our webservice, including cover arts, ect. ect. Hopefully, later we will be able to extend it to automatically detect all titles in the changer.[quote]

Thank you, the images and explantion are very helpful. I'm am very much a newbie when it comes to Media PC computers. The interface is certainly more appealing.

When you view your library on the tv screen, would it include the movies from both the computer hard drive and the changer at the same time, so that the moives stored on both sources would be "combined" on the screen regardless of their source? In other words, could "10,000 BC" be from the megachanger and "A Knight's Tale" be on the hard drive in the images you provided? Or do you have to switch back and forth from a changer interface
"library" to a computer interface "library", not being able to see all your movies at one time.

By using a remote for the PC, you could select the movie and play it even though it was stored on the megachanger. What about other megachanger functions like stop, reverse, FF, etc, would these be functional with the PC remote or would you still need to use the Sony or third part remote.
post #486 of 3313
[quote=Noah Winter;17336998][quote=Binnerup;17335408]First of all, it will give you a much more appealing interface than the Sony changer itself - this means larger covers, browse by genres, custom filters, sort options, ect. ect.

Then, optionally, it lets you browse not only titles in the changer, but also offline titles (on shelf), titles stored on harddrive or network storage.

You can say that the adding of data is partly manual - you must add the titles to your collection manually, but all the data is already in our webservice, including cover arts, ect. ect. Hopefully, later we will be able to extend it to automatically detect all titles in the changer.
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Thank you, the images and explantion are very helpful. I'm am very much a newbie when it comes to Media PC computers. The interface is certainly more appealing.

When you view your library on the tv screen, would it include the movies from both the computer hard drive and the changer at the same time, so that the moives stored on both sources would be "combined" on the screen regardless of their source? In other words, could "10,000 BC" be from the megachanger and "A Knight's Tale" be on the hard drive in the images you provided? Or do you have to switch back and forth from a changer interface
"library" to a computer interface "library", not being able to see all your movies at one time.

By using a remote for the PC, you could select the movie and play it even though it was stored on the megachanger. What about other megachanger functions like stop, reverse, FF, etc, would these be functional with the PC remote or would you still need to use the Sony or third part remote.

Noah,

Yes all titles would be combined in one file. When you open title it would show if in changer or computer file etc. If shelf then you would have to put in disc of course. For controlling changer stop ff etc you would still need the Sony remote. I myself use the Harmony one universal remote and just change from play media center to play blu-ray. So after i hit play in Brians program on my harmony remote I hit play blu-ray which switches input on receiver and tv and then use buttons on remote for controlling the Blu-ray
post #487 of 3313
LOL, And someone said it wouldn't come out this summer...please, we were all wrong

Cool
post #488 of 3313
Before I try this since I have edited at least 10-15 titles, does anybody know if I tell the player "load all disks" if it'll overwrite any edits I made, or will it just look for missing disks?

also, I put my disks in order the first time. tonight I noticed disks 22-30 was unknown. and I know they were known as I watched one of the blu-rays. Anybody else had a bunch of titles go missing?

And I noticed when this happened, I initially lost the disk numbers. So I couldn't tell the player to load that disk # and try again. After I loaded a disk and went back to menu, the player did say I have like 10 unknown disks. so now i'm wondering if I have to site here for 15minutes and load each one, one by one, or "load all disk" if it'll just look for the missing ones.
post #489 of 3313
Perhaps your discs became unknown by pressing 'Disk Eject' on the front panel and then rotating the carousel once opened?

Try opening the little door at the bottom of the remote and pressing the 'LOAD' button found there. It seems to be different than the single-disc 'Load' and the 'Load All Discs' options found in the 'OPTIONS' menu in that it apparently loads only the unknown discs. 'Load All Disks' seems to always start from disc 1...

Good luck!
post #490 of 3313
Sort of...
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Originally Posted by RegGuheert View Post

Interestingly, 5 of the unrecognized discs are the new BD set of Star Trek Next Generation movies. I'm assuming these will show up soon, but I was surprised they are not there already.

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Originally Posted by RegGuheert View Post

Still waiting for data on Star Trek Next Generation movies...

I tried again this morning and Gracenote has the four movie discs in Italian:

- Star Trek VII: Generazioni (1994)
- Star Trek Viii: Primo Contatto (1997)
- Star Trek IX: L'Insurrezione (1999)
- Star Trek X: La Nemesi (2003)

The bonus disc still has no label in Gracenote.

I wonder how Gracenote decides to enter most disc titles in English, while some disc titles get entered in other languages.
post #491 of 3313
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Originally Posted by mikefl52 View Post

It's all about choice. If you want cheap buy the 960, if you need the 7.1 (and associated extra DSP and D/A chips) then the 7000 is available for an extracost. I actually laud Sony for giving people this choice. Surely people are not so totalitarian to say that choices should not be available, that all sounds a little "1984" to me.

Also do not belittle the high end gear, it is often the money spent on more esoteric equipment that pays for the R&D and trickles down into the mass market products.

Another little seed to plant. Not too may years ago DVI was the HD video connection of the future and then came the HDMI connection to include audio and add protection from copying. The HDMI connector is a terrible connector still fraught with problems so when in some years in the future they add HDMI II as the required connection then it certainly won't be 2009!

Bottom line don't criticize OEMs for giving people options, after all I like my blue car, but there again maybe I should only be able to buy a black one and eliminate the cost of having choices.


I did not criticize anyone. I simply offered up an explanation as to why manu's still include legacy connections on their gear- and you nearly precisely regurgitated parts of that explanation.

James
post #492 of 3313
UPDATE: I gave it a try. Hey it loaded only the ones marked as unknown. Thanks! And to answer one of my other questions, I guess if a disk is ejected/marked as unknown when reloaded, any edits you made is deleted. One of the disks "Monsters vs Aliens" (Hey it's a Dreamworks title, why no Gracenotes? lol.) lost my name edit.

Thanks! I'll give that a try and see what happens when I get home.

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Originally Posted by RegGuheert View Post

Perhaps your discs became unknown by pressing 'Disk Eject' on the front panel and then rotating the carousel once opened?

Try opening the little door at the bottom of the remote and pressing the 'LOAD' button found there. It seems to be different than the single-disc 'Load' and the 'Load All Discs' options found in the 'OPTIONS' menu in that it apparently loads only the unknown discs. 'Load All Disks' seems to always start from disc 1...

Good luck!
post #493 of 3313
Looks like the only differences between the BDP-CX7000ES & BDP-CX960 is 5yr warranty, Serial connector, better Video processing and more analog connectors.

Easy for me, I have the reon processor, don't need the serial interface, no need for analog and I save 1k. I'm sold, the 960 it is
post #494 of 3313
If this an offical thread then the OP should add some pics to the cover, specs and links.

Here is a link for the BDP-CX960 manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...60&region_id=1

Here is a link for the BDP-CX7000ES Manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...CX7000ES&LOC=3

Please put a little effort into it and add these LINKS to the cover

Me
post #495 of 3313
I went by Best Buy here in Northern VA (Bailys Crossroad location) yesterday and went to magnolia counter and asked if they had the CX960 in stock. The sales person had never heard of it. He checked his computer and sure enough two units were in stock in back (none were setup out front). He went into the back and got it for me and I got 10% + 5% one time discount. Not a bad deal considering almost no one has it online.

I plan on setting it up on Wednesday night.
post #496 of 3313
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

If this an offical thread then the OP should add some pics to the cover, specs and links.

Here is a link for the BDP-CX960 manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...60&region_id=1

Here is a link for the BDP-CX7000ES Manual: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...CX7000ES&LOC=3

Please put a little effort into it and add these LINKS to the cover

Me

For those of us who need to wear glasses, it is a shame that then you maximize the manual, the only page that gets larger is the cover page.

I may have to wait until my local Best Buy has one in stock before I can actually find out enough about the player to decide whether I want one.
post #497 of 3313
I am looking for a rack shelf that fits the CX960. I have a two point front rack. What depth rack shelf will I need? I am fine if the unit hangs off the back as long as the units feet are planted.

Any links would also be helpful.
post #498 of 3313
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

I went by Best Buy here in Northern VA (Bailys Crossroad location) yesterday and went to magnolia counter and asked if they had the CX960 in stock. The sales person had never heard of it. He checked his computer and sure enough two units were in stock in back (none were setup out front). He went into the back and got it for me and I got 10% + 5% one time discount. Not a bad deal considering almost no one has it online.

I plan on setting it up on Wednesday night.

Best Buy in Lex KY had one on the shelf and one underneath in the box on Sat. Yesterday the one that was out on the shelf was gone but they still had the one underneath. I noticed it does not have a shelf tag. It is not appearing on the website as of yet. I thought about it as I had a 10% off coupon but went with the LG 390 for now.
post #499 of 3313
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

Looks like the only differences between the BDP-CX7000ES & BDP-CX960 is 5yr warranty, Serial connector, better Video processing and more analog connectors.

Easy for me, I have the reon processor, don't need the serial interface, no need for analog and I save 1k. I'm sold, the 960 it is

Same for me... picking mine up at Best Buy tonight.... $ 679.99 out the door....
post #500 of 3313
Hi,

Question for Bujee1 or any of the previous owners of sony mega-changers (985 or 995's):

Has the 960 fixed the dreaded stubborn resume issues at startup that are present with these previous changers??

I'm talking about the fact that when you turn on the 995 you have to wait until it loads (and starts playing) the previously played DVD BEFORE being able to access the DVD listing to choose a different one?

I'm also eager to replace my 995 with a unit that does not suffer from DVD title amnesia as mine.
post #501 of 3313
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Originally Posted by GeorgeE View Post

Hi,

Question for Bujee1 or any of the previous owners of sony mega-changers (985 or 995's):

Has the 960 fixed the dreaded stubborn resume issues at startup that are present with these previous changers??

I'm talking about the fact that when you turn on the 995 you have to wait until it loads (and starts playing) the previously played DVD BEFORE being able to access the DVD listing to choose a different one?

I'm also eager to replace my 995 with a unit that does not suffer from DVD title amnesia as mine.

I never used the feature on my old changer. I put all my disks on an excel spread sheet and burned it to a DVD scrolling from top to bottom. I separated the titles into chapters based on genre and each title had a number. When I wanted to find a disk I would play disk one and scroll down to the title and input the number next to it. The player went to the title and Viola! movie time!

On the 960 I can turn the dial on the front until I get to the disk I want or I can scoll with the remote but I haven't found a way to go straight to the disc I want if I already know the number.

Probably more info than you needed. I am not a geek! (Who am I kidding?)
post #502 of 3313
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Originally Posted by GeorgeE View Post

Has the 960 fixed the dreaded stubborn resume issues at startup that are present with these previous changers??

Yes. No discs start playing at startup. It starts right in the menu system sitting at whatever disc was playing or selected prior to shutdown. Still, if you then play the disc which was playing when you shut down, it will resume from where it stopped, assuming it is not a BD-Java disc.
post #503 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Noah Winter View Post

Anyone hear any more news on third part interfaces like Cinemar or others? There have been previous threads such as below but nothing apparently concrete yet. This one dates back to August.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...061473&page=22

We're (Cinemar) getting closer. We've just been tied up with a few other drivers like HAI and iPort. We hope to have something closer to release by the end of the month depending on how our beta testing goes.
post #504 of 3313
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

Same for me... picking mine up at Best Buy tonight.... $ 679.99 out the door....

YAAAAA BABYYY! Nice price.
post #505 of 3313
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

We're (Cinemar) getting closer. We've just been tied up with a few other drivers like HAI and iPort. We hope to have something closer to release by the end of the month depending on how our beta testing goes.

Thanks Mario,

I look forward to seeing what you folks come up with, it looks most promising.
post #506 of 3313
Discrete codes for Sony CX960 Changer... Confirmed working with Pronto 7500 remote. Maybe someone can use them...

Sony OFF

0000 0069 0000 0015 005f 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0030 0200

Sony On
0000 0069 0000 0015 005f 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0030 0017 0030 0017 0030 0200
post #507 of 3313
Went to get an update from Escient and here is what they said - same old line although we are in Q4 and they are running out of time

Hello Richard,

We still plan on releasing support for the new Sony BDP-CX7000ES Blu-ray changer to the Vision systems later this year (Q4 – 2009). There is no planned support of this changer within the Fireball series; it remains to be seen if this is even possible. Please let me know if you need further assistance.

Best regards,

Mike Halperin
Customer Support Technician
mike.halperin@dm-holdings-na.com

D&M Holdings U.S. Inc. – Escient Division
T 317.616.6590 F 317.616.6790
Toll Free 1.800.372.4368 (direct: 6590)
post #508 of 3313
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

We're (Cinemar) getting closer. We've just been tied up with a few other drivers like HAI and iPort. We hope to have something closer to release by the end of the month depending on how our beta testing goes.

Well, well. That was quick. Cinemar released the 7000ES plug-in for DVDLobby already. The plugin will support up to 8 changers connected via regular PC serial ports or GC100 serial ports.

For those that are not familiar with the software,

DVDLobby Link with examples of a custom interfaces for browsing discs:
http://www.cinemarsolutions.com/dvdlobbypro.php

and here is the supporting documentation that Cinemar released with the plug-in:

http://wiki.cinemaronline.com/index....tle=MLCX7000ES

FWIW, I am not affiliated with Cinemar, I am an end-user of their software and I hope to purchase this changer and plug-in in the future. I just need to convince my wife that we need one
post #509 of 3313
I have the CX960 Changer installed and played with it for about 6 hours last night. Went to sleep at 5:00 am.... Got up for work at 8:00 am.....

Anyway.. First impressions:

Likes:
1) BD Changer... Keeps my lazy ass on the couch... Love it.
2) Interface is kinda cool... loaded 85 disks in.. only one had no art picture but title was correct.
3) Bit streams to my Denon 5308Ci
4) Discrete Power codes for Pronto Remote

Needs Improvement:
1) Bigger artwork pictures
2) Faster load time for disks... My Oppo83 kills this in performance.
3) DVD Scaling is Crap for SD DVDs. Oppo83 Kills in this area also.
4) Can not manually add pictures if not loaded. (If this could be done someone please chime in).


Hate:
1) This thing is huge.. It makes my Denon look like a HTIB AVR.:-)
2) No direct disk access via remote control.(If this could be done someone please chime in).

To be honest...I am on the fence about keeping or not.. Perhaps I need to spent more time with it. At this point I am truly undecided.... I wish it had a WEB interface that would allow customization of the front end. Faster load times as well as better up scaling would be nice, but not a deal breaker.... This is what we have to work with and it beats getting off the couch to change a movie.
post #510 of 3313
hmm, everyone who posted on the ES model stated the scaling was terriffic. Could this be a trade off for the lower price?
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