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post #151 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Shmendrapolk View Post

Is the Asus O!Play better than the WD in general. I read that the WD isn't great for music because songs never appear in proper order & the interface sucks. I have 150gb of music & using the device for my library is key.

I have an Asus and I am going to either sell it or give it away.

In the Asus, the UI is cumbersome. Too many clicks to get to the video or audio, even more when you try and access the network. No thumbnail support. Also, when playing the same video file with the asus versus the WDTV, the video is better looking with the WDTV. Asus has a problem with color saturation. Asus does have the option to adjust the brightness and contrast, but was unable to remedy the video issues using this method.

While the Asus does have some features the WDTV HD does not, it is not worth the loss of video quality.
post #152 of 7090
Well please keep us posted. If it doesn't play music well - easy to browse and play albums, gapless playback - it's a deal breaker.
I read one review where the reviewer complained because he set the device for 1080 resolution but hooked it up to a lower resolution TV and it crashed. While perhaps annoying, that hardly seems like a reason to not buy one.
post #153 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Derelict_Drvr View Post

I have an Asus and I am going to either sell it or give it away.

In the Asus, the UI is cumbersome. Too many clicks to get to the video or audio, even more when you try and access the network. No thumbnail support. Also, when playing the same video file with the asus versus the WDTV, the video is better looking with the WDTV. Asus has a problem with color saturation. Asus does have the option to adjust the brightness and contrast, but was unable to remedy the video issues using this method.

While the Asus does have some features the WDTV HD does not, it is not worth the loss of video quality.

I appreciate your post as I am looking at getting the Asus myself. Can you tell me what features the Asus has over the WD?
post #154 of 7090
Two biggest, from what I have read because I don't use them, is the Asus has full DVD menu support in ISO's, and it downmixes DTS and Dolby True Digital. It is also network enabled, but so will the WD TV Live.
post #155 of 7090
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Originally Posted by csgamer View Post

I wouldn't count on the wdtv live on bitstreaming hd audio. It probably will have hdmi 1.3, but seems like all the media players are unable to do this for whatever reasons. Well except for the nmt players.

Does not appear to be correct. Many media players (but certainly not all) that have HDMI 1.3 do bitstream the HD audio via HDMI allowing a recent vintage AVR with HDMI inputs to decode the HD audio. What most media players do not do is internally decode the HD audio (nor output via analog connections nor as LPCM over HDMI). The new WDTV2 is widely reported to be a be able to bitstream the HD audio via HDMI.
post #156 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Derelict_Drvr View Post

I have an Asus and I am going to either sell it or give it away.

In the Asus, the UI is cumbersome. Too many clicks to get to the video or audio, even more when you try and access the network. No thumbnail support. Also, when playing the same video file with the asus versus the WDTV, the video is better looking with the WDTV. Asus has a problem with color saturation. Asus does have the option to adjust the brightness and contrast, but was unable to remedy the video issues using this method.

While the Asus does have some features the WDTV HD does not, it is not worth the loss of video quality.

I don't understand why the UI always has to suck on these things.
When you say cumbersome - let's say I have all my music files stored:

Music/[artist name]/[album name]/ files

All the individual music tracks have their track numbers in the file names and the id3 tags are properly named. So whether you browse by folder or browse by album tags on my PC the music is properly ordered. Would this be the case on the Asus? Would I be able to play an album & then cue up another album in the same playlist?
post #157 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Shmendrapolk View Post

I don't understand why the UI always has to suck on these things.
When you say cumbersome - let's say I have all my music files stored:

Music/[artist name]/[album name]/ files

All the individual music tracks have their track numbers in the file names and the id3 tags are properly named. So whether you browse by folder or browse by album tags on my PC the music is properly ordered. Would this be the case on the Asus? Would I be able to play an album & then cue up another album in the same playlist?

I don't know about music, I don't do music on mine. What I do know is that the Asus opening screen is not bad, but it goes down from there. After that it is like trying to read a screen in old DOS 3.1. Font is small in a small window. There is no thumbnail support for cover or movie art.

Whereas the WDTV defaults to movies when you turn it on, the Asus defaults to photos. So no gain there. Asus is a bit easier to get to the media you want, but it goes downhill from there.

To me, the WD TV HD is cleaner and more simple. The UI on the Asus is not very user friendly.

For me, I wasted my money on the Asus. I am going to wait on the new WD TV Live.
post #158 of 7090
I just watched a video review of the Asus:

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/291...iew/index.html

It looks pretty good. The UI, while hardly dazzling, doesn't look too problematic.

In any case, I'll probably order it from Amazon, since they give you a 30 day return policy.

I forgot to ask - I assume it works with NTFS, not just FAT32, since iso files are over 4gb.
post #159 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post

Does not appear to be correct. Many media players (but certainly not all) that have HDMI 1.3 do bitstream the HD audio via HDMI allowing a recent vintage AVR with HDMI inputs to decode the HD audio. What most media players do not do is internally decode the HD audio (nor output via analog connections nor as LPCM over HDMI). The new WDTV2 is widely reported to be a be able to bitstream the HD audio via HDMI.

I believe you are incorrect.

Then tell me, which players are the many that you speak of that can bitstream hd audio besides the nmt players which i have mentioned? Where is this widely reported info on wdtv2?
post #160 of 7090
Besides the nmt players, i think xtreamer is the only other one. ACRyan has in its specs, but cannot.
post #161 of 7090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmendrapolk View Post

Is the Asus O!Play better than the WD in general. I read that the WD isn't great for music because songs never appear in proper order & the interface sucks. I have 150gb of music & using the device for my library is key.

The latest firmware update for the WDTV, released last week, corrects this.
All music is now displayed and plays in the original and correct album order.

I have applied this update and it works fine, it also provides video playlists now too and also enhances a couple of other features.

I like my WDTV, it does everything I want it to.

I hear the Asus OPlay has problems of its own.

Regards,

Lt. Dang
post #162 of 7090
Lt. D

re: the albums displaying in correct order , does this work in thumbnail mode also?
post #163 of 7090
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Originally Posted by christoofar View Post

Lt. D

re: the albums displaying in correct order , does this work in thumbnail mode also?

Yes, for thumbnail mode the tracks still display in the original album order, with thumbnails displayed left to right across the screen.

Regards,

Lt. Dang
post #164 of 7090
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

I can convert files to AC3 for free, and even the old WD TV can do streaming via ethernet with custom FW.

Hi, i stumbled upon this website trying to find out more info about the new wdtv player. looks like 10/10 release date from what i can tell, lots of usefull info here and i just had a couple questions. The main reason i wanted to upgrade is for the DTS downmixing feature and the ethernet is appealing as well. no real complaints about the player, but question for documaker or anyone else.

when i convert my MKV from DTS to AC3 i have sync issues, not much but noticable to my better half and it bugs the sh*t out of her, what is the best obviously free program and quickest for converting audio to AC3 that you have used?

also
and even the old WD TV can do streaming via ethernet with custom FW

what is custom FW? (firmware)? if so can you please enlighten me? thanks in advance, i hope to be a regular!
post #165 of 7090
very cool. Hopefully this will be ported over to the WDTV2 also.
post #166 of 7090
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Originally Posted by csgamer View Post

I believe you are incorrect.

Then tell me, which players are the many that you speak of that can bitstream hd audio besides the nmt players which i have mentioned? Where is this widely reported info on wdtv2?

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Originally Posted by csgamer View Post

Besides the nmt players, i think xtreamer is the only other one. ACRyan has in its specs, but cannot.

I was going by the specs. and online owner's manuals for a few other players, such as the Mvix Ultio and Olevia ZP-500, which list support for the HD audio formats. It may be that future firmware updates will add support to some of the players which have claimed support but which currently have issues with the HD audio. It may also be that HD audio is only supported when used within m2ts files (as used with Blu-ray).

In any case I will be surprised it the WDTV2 is not capable of bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA via HDMI when used within m2ts files.
post #167 of 7090
Hopefully your right and wdtv2 will support hd audio. I was going by the specs at first as well until kept reading users reporting otherwise.
post #168 of 7090
Any word when the WDTV2 will be available?
post #169 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Colton View Post

Any word when the WDTV2 will be available?

Some reports claim it will be released within the next week but I wouldn't place a lot of confidence in those reports. However, it may very well be released by the end of this month. It's not yet on the Western Digital web site nor has there been an official release date published so it's really a gussing game at this point.
post #170 of 7090
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Originally Posted by drcos View Post

This does not explain why
http://www.amazon.ca/Western-Digital.../dp/B002KKFP9Y
this is still available on Amazon.ca . . .

Annnnddd . . . now that appears to have been pulled as well.
post #171 of 7090
Wow, i guess wdtv2 will be out for me. I don't want to wait over a month.
post #172 of 7090
Still listed on UK amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/..._ya_os_product

1 to 3 months wait. Hmmm...
post #173 of 7090
Just saw 3 of these on the shelf at Best Buy.
post #174 of 7090
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Originally Posted by kevin2 View Post

Just saw 3 of these on the shelf at Best Buy.

Pics or it didn't happen. And I think you probably saw the mini, or the original.
post #175 of 7090
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Originally Posted by christoofar View Post

Pics or it didn't happen. And I think you probably saw the mini, or the original.

can u post a pic in best buy
post #176 of 7090
Hello all....I'm new here.
...and I couldn't resist registering in order to post this.

I just bought the WD Live from J&R Music World through Buy.com. It is definitely available, but I'll bet that stock is limited:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=211557987

http://www.jr.com/western-digital/pe/WD_BAAN0000NBK/

Happy buying everyone!

Edit: I think these sites are pulling the ads because their inventory is being bought up.
post #177 of 7090
Pictures of a WD TV Live I picked up from Best Buy.
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post #178 of 7090
where do you live?
post #179 of 7090
OK.... I'm startin' to get pi$$ed here. I'm going to go out to Best Buy tomorrow and check it out. If they have them, I am going to give Amazon a piece of my mind (what little there is left, anyway).
post #180 of 7090
Did not see the WD but my Best Buy has the new Seagate HD theater unit for $139 on the shelf.
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