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post #6871 of 7090
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Originally Posted by sinusss View Post


For mkv's chapters you have to go through Option button and Chapters.

Exactly!
post #6872 of 7090
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Originally Posted by de8212 View Post

No, it's hdmi to my denon 1909. My source files are various mkv files, iso files, etc. Sound is fine from all my other devices (dvd player, blu ray player, etc.). For some reason the WD just sounds "flat". No crystal clear sound, no low end, just blah. But I have just dealt with it because I rarely use it.

No big deal, was just hoping it was a weird issue in the firmware but no one else seems to have this problem.

You might have to tweak the HDMI input selection on your Denon. I have an AVR-2310ci and every input is different, it requires some tweaking for the right sound to come out.
post #6873 of 7090
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Originally Posted by 80sGuy View Post

You might have to tweak the HDMI input selection on your Denon. I have an AVR-2310ci and every input is different, it requires some tweaking for the right sound to come out.

Any chance you know where I would go to tweak? Not saying you are wrong but I didn't have to tweak my denon when the comcast dvr/phillips dvd player/samsung blu ray were connected.
post #6874 of 7090
^^Each input has their own setup modes. I'm not familiar with the specific features on the 1909 but I would assume it is not too far off compared to my 2310ci. For instance if you are using HDMI 2, go to the menu set up and try the different Audyssey modes (that is if you already had it setup). Make sure Multi EQ and Dynamic EQ is on, then select the different modes from Audyssey; for music I use 'Bypass L/R', and for movies I leave it at 'Audyssey'.

Denons are very complicated to use and their manual doesn't help much.

Also, you might want to try 'Restorer HQ' (the highest mode) from your remote for a boost in audio. They tend to bring out the highs and lows.
post #6875 of 7090
After upgrading to the latest firmware, apparently the HDMI (Auto) setting with match framerate doesn't work anymore for me. I have used the factory reset button as well to no avail.

WDTV Plus -> Denon 2309 -> Sony 60EX500

Essentially 1080p24 videos display in 1080p60 instead of 1080p24 now. I also need to manually setup the HDMI Passthrough now as the auto apparently is not supported by my "TV". When I try to manually set the resolution to 1080p 24Hz, it also says my TV doesn't support the resolution, so I have to force it. While this makes the videos display properly, the whole UI is sluggish now.

All of this worked beautifully in the previous firmware, and removing the Denon from the mix defeats the whole purpose.

Anyone with similar problems?
post #6876 of 7090
^^Many from WD community and amazon reviews stated that the newest firmware is useless and has recommended rolling back to the previous one. My unit will be here this coming Tuesday and I will be sure not to use the latest firmware.
post #6877 of 7090
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Originally Posted by 80sGuy View Post

^^Many from WD community and amazon reviews stated that the newest firmware is useless and has recommended rolling back to the previous one. My unit will be here this coming Tuesday and I will be sure not to use the latest firmware.

Any idea how to get rid of the nag screen that tells me about the new firmware every time I start the WDHD?
post #6878 of 7090
^^Not sure, and like I mentioned earlier that I've yet to receive my unit but this seemed like a good place to check for help, take a look.
http://community.wdc.com/t5/forums/s...wdtvlive&q=nag
post #6879 of 7090
I have a question for the group - this looks like a very active thread, which is nice to see.

I have a very specific need. I have 60,000+ pictures that I'd like to view on my TV for friends and relatives. I have tried AppleTV linking to an iPhoto computer, but with 60k pics its just too slow and painful. I have also tried a Sony PS3 linking to a Buffalo Terastations DLNA server, which works, but very poorly (its pretty slow, and does not properly sort the folders or the pics within a folder).

So my plan is to have a WDTV with a USB hard drive hanging off it. I believe that this will show up as a network drive on my network. Every night I would have Chronosync (an OSX syncing software that works great) sync all my JPEGs from my file server to the WD.

I know this sounds pretty simple, but amazingly this has been hard for me to figure out a way to do well.

Does anyone think that this will not work as I am hoping?

Generally speaking, how is the photo viewing capabilities of the WD?

Thanks in advance,

David
post #6880 of 7090
Dschamis: I do something similar (Robocopy from a Windows PC).

The only question is if you will like the WDTV UI. I don't particularly.
post #6881 of 7090
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Originally Posted by LesMoss View Post

Dschamis: I do something similar (Robocopy from a Windows PC).

The only question is if you will like the WDTV UI. I don't particularly.

Is there a better option out there that does what we want to do?
post #6882 of 7090
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Originally Posted by dschamis View Post

Is there a better option out there that does what we want to do?

I'm using a Synology NAS (211j model). It works great, and my WD Live Plus reads all files from it quite nicely.

I suppose you could use any backup software from any computer on the 'net to upload your pictures to it.
post #6883 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Athlon646464 View Post

I'm using a Synology NAS (211j model). It works great, and my WD Live Plus reads all files from it quite nicely.

I suppose you could use any backup software from any computer on the 'net to upload your pictures to it.

Sorry - I meant is there a better option than the WD Live Plus.
post #6884 of 7090
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Originally Posted by dschamis View Post

Sorry - I meant is there a better option than the WD Live Plus.

NP.

I only have experience with the WD boxes.........
post #6885 of 7090
I can pretty easily view any pictures in a shared folder on my PC, a external USB hard drive, or a USB stick but I've mainly played them from my shared drives and only a few now and then not 60k like you have.
I'm sure there are many ways to do what you want that may be faster or easier to navigate but it does what I want as long as I put them somewhere it can see them and they look very good on my TV screen.
I think for the kind of money this thing costs you can't go wrong but I mainly use mine to play all the captured and edited HD shows from my TV card.
B-rads firmware may make what you want to do easier seeing how they have all kinds of things you can add or tweak.
I guess you'll need to do some searching around and ask at other geek type forums then you can decide for yourself what best fits your needs.
post #6886 of 7090
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Originally Posted by dschamis View Post

Is there a better option out there that does what we want to do?

Get a cheap pre-Intel MacMini and flash it with XBMC?
post #6887 of 7090
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Originally Posted by dschamis View Post
Sorry - I meant is there a better option than the WD Live Plus.
I like the slideshow options on the PS3, so I just loaded all of my photos on a USB hard drive and left it connected to the game console.
post #6888 of 7090
Well, I received the 'Live Plus' and I must say that out of the box with 1.04 firmware it has performed flawlessly. I can't remember exactly which version it was but I've decided to update to the latest 1.06.16_B solely because of its ability to 'resume' playback after power down. I guess I'll have to live with all the other major buggy functions like the 'settings' menu and the menu which controls the Subtitle and Audio until the next fix.
post #6889 of 7090
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Originally Posted by MOrlando View Post

After upgrading to the latest firmware, apparently the HDMI (Auto) setting with match framerate doesn't work anymore for me.

The most frustrating thing, is you have to choose which features you want the most and select a firmware that breaks the fewest.

Every firmware introduces a new feature, breaks one or two, and fixes one that was broken in the last release. The code seems so fragile, that touching one piece breaks another.

For me, the last version wouldn't apply the correct aspect ratio (all other firmwares were fine,) now fixed in with the current one.

WD needs a QA test procedure badly.

On the plus, I'm thrilled WD is more resilient than HP.
post #6890 of 7090
Hey at least they have been updating it and it is still supported. Many companies just release a product and never issue updates to it.
post #6891 of 7090
Most brands update firmware for the better, but WD update it for the worst!
post #6892 of 7090
I installed latest (current) firmware for WDTV Live. I think the version is 1.06.15. I was running on 1.05.xx. After installing latest firmware, it looks like it is not recognizing the audio type in the video files. When I was running 1.05 version, I was able to see the audio types like Dolby Digital, DTS, DTS ES etc on my Denon 1910 Panel. Doesn't display that any more. Looks like the latest firmware update was a bad idea. I was expecting some support for DTS HD MA audio. Does anyone know if there is any easy way to back-out the latest firmware upgrade?

Thanks.
post #6893 of 7090
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Originally Posted by bas2001 View Post

I installed latest (current) firmware for WDTV Live. I think the version is 1.06.15. I was running on 1.05.xx. After installing latest firmware, it looks like it is not recognizing the audio type in the video files. When I was running 1.05 version, I was able to see the audio types like Dolby Digital, DTS, DTS ES etc on my Denon 1910 Panel. Doesn't display that any more. Looks like the latest firmware update was a bad idea. I was expecting some support for DTS HD MA audio. Does anyone know if there is any easy way to back-out the latest firmware upgrade?

Thanks.

Yes, you can easily download and install a previous version using a USB stick-drive. The only problem is the WD will alert you to a firmware update each time it is started -- considered a nag screen by many, including me. As regards the newest firmware, you need to go back through your settings because the feature set has changed and some settings are reset to the lowest default by the update. In particular the audio was set to default stereo after I upgraded. You need to set the HDMI audio mode to what you want and check all the settings. Checking the settings is something people should do as a matter of course after an upgrade.

True HD is still supported but DTS-MA is not and probably never will be. It is a licensing issue and WD apparently does not want to incur the license fee and have to raise the price of the unit. Unless you have a super audio setup and a wife who lets you play it loud, you probably won't hear the difference vs DTS core audio. At the current price of $90, the WD Live+ is a steal for what it does. You can pay double the price for very little additional functionality.

The biggest difference with this latest firmware is that it now writes bookmarks to my NAS to remember position within a DVD.iso even if you shut the WD off. I like that a lot and use it all the time so it is worth the minor aggravation of the disappearing subtitle name when turning them on. Since my rips typically have only a single English subtitle it's not much of an issue for me. What I have noticed is that it does not write the bookmarks for BD.m2ts files and does not remember position within the BD title if the WD is shut down. I don't know if it will write them for a BD.iso since all my BD rips are main_title.m2ts. I may give it a try unless someone has done it already and can report.
post #6894 of 7090
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Originally Posted by 80sGuy View Post

Most brands update firmware for the better, but WD update it for the worst!

I think you are being very unfair. WD has been releasing firmware updates every 1-2 months and progressively ironing out bugs while adding features. They continue to support the older WD Live which was essentially discontinued with the introduction of the Live+. If you want to see a much higher-priced mess of a media player, go read the Netgear NTV-550 thread.
post #6895 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I think you are being very unfair. WD has been releasing firmware updates every 1-2 months and progressively ironing out bugs while adding features. They continue to support the older WD Live which was essentially discontinued with the introduction of the Live+. If you want to see a much higher-priced mess of a media player, go read the Netgear NTV-550 thread.

+1

I've owned 2 of them for some time now.

A simple question and answer disputes what he said: Are they a better box than when I bought them? Answer: Yes!

They are not perfect, but in my environment they are pretty darn good. They play nearly everything I throw at them.
post #6896 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

The biggest difference with this latest firmware is that it now writes bookmarks to my NAS to remember position within a DVD.iso even if you shut the WD off . . . What I have noticed is that it does not write the bookmarks for BD.m2ts files and does not remember position within the BD title if the WD is shut down. I don't know if it will write them for a BD.iso . . . I may give it a try . . .

I got the urge to test this after I wrote the above. It turns out the latest firmware does write the bookmarks for both BD.m2ts and BD.iso when played through the network shares route (which is how I play my DVD.iso). So, it remembers the place in the title for DVD.iso, BD.iso and BD.m2ts even when the power is cycled. When a BD.m2ts is played through the media server route (DLNA), no bookmarks are written and the Live+ doesn't remember the place in the title when the power is cycled.
post #6897 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I think you are being very unfair. WD has been releasing firmware updates every 1-2 months and progressively ironing out bugs while adding features. They continue to support the older WD Live which was essentially discontinued with the introduction of the Live+. If you want to see a much higher-priced mess of a media player, go read the Netgear NTV-550 thread.

It is true for the latest update, and you are probably right about others.
Regarding the 'audio' selections; I chose HDMI pass-through and left all the audio format boxes 'unselect' because Youtube would not output any audio, but everything plays fine when I didn't choose any. It seems like this is just a bug -- like the 1080p 60hz 'forced resolution' selection. I also owned a Denon (2310ci) and I can monitor what type of audio coming in and going out.

I too updated the 16_B for the 'resume' playback (remembered after shutdown). I guess I can live with the other problems for now until the next update, and let's hope they don't f'ked it up!
post #6898 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Yes, you can easily download and install a previous version using a USB stick-drive. The only problem is the WD will alert you to a firmware update each time it is started -- considered a nag screen by many, including me. As regards the newest firmware, you need to go back through your settings because the feature set has changed and some settings are reset to the lowest default by the update. In particular the audio was set to default stereo after I upgraded. You need to set the HDMI audio mode to what you want and check all the settings. Checking the settings is something people should do as a matter of course after an upgrade.

True HD is still supported but DTS-MA is not and probably never will be. It is a licensing issue and WD apparently does not want to incur the license fee and have to raise the price of the unit. Unless you have a super audio setup and a wife who lets you play it loud, you probably won't hear the difference vs DTS core audio. At the current price of $90, the WD Live+ is a steal for what it does. You can pay double the price for very little additional functionality.

The biggest difference with this latest firmware is that it now writes bookmarks to my NAS to remember position within a DVD.iso even if you shut the WD off. I like that a lot and use it all the time so it is worth the minor aggravation of the disappearing subtitle name when turning them on. Since my rips typically have only a single English subtitle it's not much of an issue for me. What I have noticed is that it does not write the bookmarks for BD.m2ts files and does not remember position within the BD title if the WD is shut down. I don't know if it will write them for a BD.iso since all my BD rips are main_title.m2ts. I may give it a try unless someone has done it already and can report.

Thank you so much Kelson. Lot of useful information and that resolved my problem. I just had to select Digital HDMI audio option instead of Stereo. I didn't think of the settings going to default after the firmware update.

Thanks again.
post #6899 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I think you are being very unfair. WD has been releasing firmware updates every 1-2 months and progressively ironing out bugs while adding features. They continue to support the older WD Live which was essentially discontinued with the introduction of the Live+.

That's not something to we should be specially grateful for, that should be the way companies are. If we are going to give them a lot of money they damn well better support us for a long time to come.
post #6900 of 7090
I asked not too long ago what format to convert video files to so that WD TV Live can play them.
I have some .wmv files that it won't play and was recommended .mkv format.

Well, I tried one with any video converter and it went from an 11mb file to 20mb file...

Am I doing something wrong? If I do this, I will effective double the space needed on my drives and although I have space, I think it's unnecessary if I can help it.

Thanks

George
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