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post #6961 of 7090
What is the main differences between wd tv live 2009(Gen2) with the new wd tv live 2011(Gen3) at software and hardware.
And is there any topic for wd tv live 2011(Gen3)?
a lot of thanks.
post #6962 of 7090
WDTV Live Streaming:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1364999
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Originally Posted by raphaelwd View Post

The new WD TV Live Streaming is based on the Sigma SMP8670 chip, you can find more information about it on Sigma's website.
The theme system is the same as WD TV Live Hub. You can find tutorials like this one on our community forums.
post #6963 of 7090
I don't own any of the WD TV media players, but was curious if on this newer WDTV2, whether you can can change how it displays the movies?

Its probably a stupid question, but for example are you able to change it to look like what in this thread?

http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-Li...on/td-p/213476

It seems some media players like to use tiny thumbnails for their movies that I really hate. I much prefer bigger pictures of the box art.
post #6964 of 7090
That is pretty much what it will look like once you have all the movie info and art set up. Took WD long enough, but it does look nice once set up.

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Originally Posted by tc17 View Post

I don't own any of the WD TV media players, but was curious if on this newer WDTV2, whether you can can change how it displays the movies?

Its probably a stupid question, but for example are you able to change it to look like what in this thread?

http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-Li...on/td-p/213476

It seems some media players like to use tiny thumbnails for their movies that I really hate. I much prefer bigger pictures of the box art.
post #6965 of 7090
A new off-shoot of XBMC (openELEC) has been released. I was wondering if it would be possible to compile and load openELEC on a WDTV Live?
post #6966 of 7090
Folks, forgive me if this has been discussed already but I didn't see it. Since the last firmware update that added the ability to select your Audio Out options (digital HDMI, digital optical, stereo), I've had an annoying issue. My setup is WDTV to receiver via optical so I selected Digital via Optical. Movies, music, and Pandora all work fine this way. However, YouTube videos play without sound. On a whim I tried changing the Audio selection to Stereo, and then YouTube worked. Of course, I have to switch it back when I want to watch a movie in DD or DTS.

Am I missing something, or is this a "Feature" in the last firmware?
post #6967 of 7090
Just got this today and I'm having an issue. I want to be able to access specific m2ts files from a blu-ray rip but it won't allow me to to do so. It's a TV series and it will just start from the first episode which is a huge pain. I noticed if I select "files" instead of "video" I can access some of the sub-folders but once I go from: Blurayname>BDMV>JAR OR STREAM (select stream)>Blurayname(once again). However, when I first installed an update a message came up which I can't remember and I selected "no" and then I was able to access the individual m2ts files (0001.m2ts, etc.) but when I turned off the box and turned it back on I was no longer able to do so.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
post #6968 of 7090
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Originally Posted by pg_rider View Post

Folks, forgive me if this has been discussed already but I didn't see it. Since the last firmware update that added the ability to select your Audio Out options (digital HDMI, digital optical, stereo), I've had an annoying issue. My setup is WDTV to receiver via optical so I selected Digital via Optical. Movies, music, and Pandora all work fine this way. However, YouTube videos play without sound. On a whim I tried changing the Audio selection to Stereo, and then YouTube worked. Of course, I have to switch it back when I want to watch a movie in DD or DTS.

Am I missing something, or is this a "Feature" in the last firmware?

Many youtube videos use AAC audio, so with digital optical it would probably just send the bitstream as is and your receiver probably doesn't support AAC format decoding?
Stereo would let the WDTV Live do the decoding of AAC internally which is needed for formats that the receiver doesn't support native decoding.
post #6969 of 7090
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Originally Posted by AM95 View Post

Just got this today and I'm having an issue. I want to be able to access specific m2ts files from a blu-ray rip but it won't allow me to to do so. It's a TV series and it will just start from the first episode which is a huge pain.

The Live will play isolated BD.m2ts files just fine. But it doesn't have the capability to navigate a BD menu to select an episode like it does for a DVD.iso rip. If you have a full disk rip to folder you can use Clown_BD to extract the individual episodes into separate BD.m2ts files. It's a pain since you have to identify the individual episodes and match them to the extracted titles.
post #6970 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

The Live will play isolated BD.m2ts files just fine. But it doesn't have the capability to navigate a BD menu to select an episode like it does for a DVD.iso rip. If you have a full disk rip to folder you can use Clown_BD to extract the individual episodes into separate BD.m2ts files. It's a pain since you have to identify the individual episodes and match them to the extracted titles.

Too bad. I was hoping this player would eliminate the workarounds I got fed up with in dealing with when it comes to certain files on my blu-ray player and internal media player on the TV. Oh well, thanks anyway.
post #6971 of 7090
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Originally Posted by AM95 View Post

Too bad. I was hoping this player would eliminate the workarounds I got fed up with in dealing with when it comes to certain files on my blu-ray player and internal media player on the TV. Oh well, thanks anyway.

The cheapest player right now that does BD menus is the Netgear NTV550. It has a healthy share of problems and recent steep discounts to $110 make it attractive -- but it also probably signals that it is at end of life and so all those problems will probably never be addressed. However, those people who use it for just streaming BD.iso and DVD.iso over a wired ethernet connection seem quite pleased with the performance.
post #6972 of 7090
You also might want to check out this new to the market player, it claims to support menus though the one I bought hasn't truly supported them on any ISO's I have but it does the chapters and all that just fine and it might be my ISO setting that are messing with it too. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M1QP7O
Seems to play everything I've fed it so far and has a active forum with factory reps that answers questions and try to fix and add features.
It already has some third party firmware and they also seem to be open to users modding the FW themselves, plus it's cheap
post #6973 of 7090
D-man, cool. Does it have a thread yet?
post #6974 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Dartman View Post

You also might want to check out this new to the market player, it claims to support menus though the one I bought hasn't truly supported them on any ISO's I have but it does the chapters and all that just fine and it might be my ISO setting that are messing with it too. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M1QP7O
Seems to play everything I've fed it so far and has a active forum with factory reps that answers questions and try to fix and add features.
It already has some third party firmware and they also seem to be open to users modding the FW themselves, plus it's cheap

That thing looks interesting and seems to get positive reviews as well. However, there's a major bummer unless I'm missing something: no Netflix.

Can you confirm this?
post #6975 of 7090
Yep, no Netflix. I THINK they are talking about adding it but not sure. Never really been something I've wanted so didn't care myself but for some I'm sure it's important, like you.
You might want to check out their forum or wiki and watch or just plain ask if it's really planned on being added soon if your really considering one. I'm happy enough with it even with the issues, especially seeing how I had almost 100 in gift cards for Amazon sitting there waiting for something worthwhile so I took a chance.
I check the wiki and forum a lot myself and since I got it they've had like 2 firmware updates and a bunch of updates to the hacked version that you can find on the wiki, pretty cool.
Whenever I post a question someone seems to answer right away so the support seems pretty good so far.
I still have my live hooked up too becuase at least with the B-rad version it has way more web goodies and features on that side, but this thing kills it as far as BD playback support even if I can't get the menu to come up on my ISO's yet.
post #6976 of 7090
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

D-man, cool. Does it have a thread yet?

As far as I know there is no thread here yet for it except this passing mention here. It truly is brand new to the US market right now, I only found out about it because I get the NCIX newsletters and they just started a US web store that had it featured for like 89-99 bucks and the specs and writeup sounded great but I didn't need to spend another 100 on yet another media player.
Then I was poking through my Amazon newsletter and accidentally found they just started selling it as well and I did have those gift cards so I jumped on it. I don't know that I would be big on starting a thread but it might be worthwhile for other users as more people decide to test drive it and the firmware and features get more mature and extras added.
Hoping that folks like B-Rad get a hold of it and add goodies like they have for the live myself...
OK, did a search right after I posted this and http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1362994&page=2 there it is
post #6977 of 7090
Thanks Dartman for the post. I got The Live + from Amaz. less than a month ago. I think I might return it. The main reasons are not paying True HD with bluray ripped. And can't be connected two HDs. This one seems to have those two features.
post #6978 of 7090
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Originally Posted by AVS66 View Post

Thanks Dartman for the post. I got The Live + from Amaz. less than a month ago. I think I might return it. The main reasons are not paying True HD with bluray ripped. And can't be connected two HDs. This one seems to have those two features.

The Live plays TrueHD with no problems from m2ts containers.
You need however to have the audio as TrueHD+AC3 core in the m2ts.
It seems latest FW also plays TrueHD from mkv container but I do not know if it needs the core also or not.
post #6979 of 7090
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Originally Posted by AVS66 View Post

Thanks Dartman for the post. I got The Live + from Amaz. less than a month ago. I think I might return it. The main reasons are not paying True HD with bluray ripped. And can't be connected two HDs. This one seems to have those two features.

Mine all play TrueHD from the m2ts container without issue.

Bill
post #6980 of 7090
I didn't know bluray can be played TrueHD in m2st. Thanks for info.

How about DTS-HDMA?

The later FW is not playing TrueHD in MVK format. All my movies are in mvk so I can confirm this.
post #6981 of 7090
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Originally Posted by AVS66 View Post

I didn't know bluray can be played TrueHD in m2st. Thanks for info.

How about DTS-HDMA?

The later FW is not playing TrueHD in MVK format. All my movies are in mvk so I can confirm this.

The WDTV doesn't do DTS-MA in any container. That is my ONLY complaint as far as my usage goes with it.

Bill
post #6982 of 7090
Well I was totally happy with my Live all this time too. It plays most things just fine for me, not doing BD menus wasn't that big a deal and not doing every single new audio format wasn't either but after all this time and actually using the new player that does do MOST of that it really is nice to have all the extras working. B-rad and even WD have slowly much improved the live but there are some things that just will never happen because the hardware can't do it or they refuse to pay licensing to let it happen.
Anyone that decides to try that new player have fun, I am, anyone that wants to stick with the Live that's cool too as I still really like many of it's web features and so far the new player doesn't support half the web goodies the live does, especially with the hacked stuff.
I'm going to leave BOTH hooked up and use each to it's best advantage.
post #6983 of 7090
The AIOS does look interesting, but it is early in its release cycle and I get the impression from its thread that there are a number of bugs (just like with the new Live-S). I'll be keeping an eye on it in the AIOS thread to watch the bug-fix progression. Not that I need another media player having just bought the Live-S -- but with features it offers at that $99 price point, there's always a little more room somewhere in the house.
post #6984 of 7090
I like my WDTV Live, but would happily swap it for a unit that is kid friendly - configure a set of folders and have it default to those only, with definable images for each file, and require a password to escape to the rest of the system. My wish anyways.
post #6985 of 7090
I was thinking about getting one of these, but have a couple of questions (apologies if they have already been answered but the unit specs change so fast... etc just want to be sure:

1. How does one know when web ordering (or pickup up at Best Buy) that one is getting the most up to date version (I imagine firmware updates live, but not a hardware change in the box.

2. Am I right that if all I want to do is access everything that I see on the internet (regular Hulu, other movie and TV program websites etc.) and see my favorites saved websites (I am aol) this box will do that for me?

Thanks folks!
post #6986 of 7090
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

I was thinking about getting one of these, but have a couple of questions (apologies if they have already been answered but the unit specs change so fast... etc just want to be sure:

1. How does one know when web ordering (or pickup up at Best Buy) that one is getting the most up to date version (I imagine firmware updates live, but not a hardware change in the box.

Good question. Their naming strategy leaves a lot to be desired. The WD Live player, which is the subject of this thread, is two versions back and no longer sold. The latest version is the Live-S (thread here). The Live-S sells for $99 at Best Buy and, when one factors in shipping, I haven't seen it cheaper anywhere else. From my personal experience I would walk into BB and pick one off the shelf to make sure you get the right one.

The previous "Live+" model is now designated for non-US sales on the WD site and is not listed for sale on the BB website. However, many stores may still have it in stock and sitting on the shelves. On a very recent trip to my local BB, I found the older WD Live+ on the shelf in the A/V section with the TV's and next to the Roku boxes on the shelf. The new Live-S was across the store in the PC section on the shelf with the routers and next to the Slingboxes. So if you order over the web for store pickup, there is no telling what they may pull off the shelf for you. All the stock boy will see is WD Live on the box and think he has the right one.
post #6987 of 7090
Guys, I'm having problem getting my WD TV Live to see my server and my computer.
I know the subnet has changed but I know nothing about networking.

I don't suppose there's anyone that would be willing to help me fix this OVER THE PHONE?
I don't care where you are as I have cheap international rates and free long distance so I can call you if you'd like.

Please, no explanations over the forum, as my reading comprehension sucks!

Right now it's telling me that the DNS server is incorrect but I thought that maybe someone can talk me through how to check all settings including my router and server ip's.

Thanks

George
post #6988 of 7090
Hey guys, sorry if this has already been covered, but I've searched and come up empty, so here it is.
I have a WD TV Live with a WD MyBook World (RAID 1.) Some of my folders will duplicate songs, and others will not. In other words, some folders (formerly CDs) will show up with each song in the proper order and number, like this:
song 1
song 2
song 3
song 4
However, other folders (formerly CDs) will display songs like this:
song 1
song 1
song 2
song 2
song 3
song 3
song 4
song 4
So basically every song plays twice before moving on to the next song. I can't figure out why some folders do this and others don't. The actually files are correct and not duplicated, but WD TV displays them as duplicates as shown above. I'm guessing it has something to do with the RAID 1 arrangement, but really it's just a guess.
Does anyone know how to eliminate this problem?
Thanks!
post #6989 of 7090
I have firmware 1.05.04_V

Once I get my stuff back online, should I upgrade or not and what's in the newer firmware?

I also happened to see this manual and I was wondering if I can get a remote like the one in the manual for my WD TV Live as I can't stand that little remote. I hate the layout of the buttons.
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/librar...779-705062.pdf

Thanks and I'm still looking for someone to give me a little phone help to get my WD TV Live to talk to the rest of my stuff.

By the way, this is the one I have now.. http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/300/211557987.jpg

George
post #6990 of 7090
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Originally Posted by csharp.windev View Post

I want this too. I've complained about this in multiple threads w/o much response so I guess no one cares but us so we'll likely never get this.

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Originally Posted by silvereyes View Post

is there any way to have both stereo output and digital output both on at the same time? My tv is connected via stereo output and my receiver via digital. I'd like the ability to use either one independently from the other, without going to menu and selecting the output type.

It's tough going through 255 pages to find an answer. I found my issue on page 96. Has anyone in the last two years figured out how to get stereo sound to the TV via RCA cables and surround sound to the Receiver via Optical cables?

Thanks.
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