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post #3181 of 3675
Many thanks to salacious and ricabullah!!! Reaaaaally appreciate your help!!!

Under your inspiration, I went to check the Manual Setup for RX-V863, Under Audio Select -->HDMI Set --> RX-V863. (was "other", meaning pass the audio signal to other device.)

Now, I get my Intel HD Audio support Multi-channel.

Thank you so much.

But yet, I don't have bit-stream HD from TMT3 or PD10...they both set to use HDMI audio output. any thoughts or help are really appreciated.

keep researching...feel I am seeing the light
post #3182 of 3675
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Originally Posted by tony7711 View Post

Many thanks to salacious and ricabullah!!! Reaaaaally appreciate your help!!!

Under your inspiration, I went to check the Manual Setup for RX-V863, Under Audio Select -->HDMI Set --> RX-V863. (was "other", meaning pass the audio signal to other device.)

Now, I get my Intel HD Audio support Multi-channel.

Thank you so much.

But yet, I don't have bit-stream HD from TMT3 or PD10...they both set to use HDMI audio output. any thoughts or help are really appreciated.

keep researching...feel I am seeing the light


I to have issues getting bit-stream audio from TMT3. I have an ASRock H55M Pro and i3-530. I am able to get bitstream from mkvs via MPC-HC. Under TMT3 I have it set as HDMI output but when I choose the HD audio track in the disc I don't get any audio? Anyone have any suggestions on this?
post #3183 of 3675
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

I to have issues getting bit-stream audio from TMT3. I have an ASRock H55M Pro and i3-530. I am able to get bitstream from mkvs via MPC-HC. Under TMT3 I have it set as HDMI output but when I choose the HD audio track in the disc I don't get any audio? Anyone have any suggestions on this?

When I was using my H55M Pro, the only way I could get bitstreaming to work was to use ReClock.
post #3184 of 3675
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Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post

When I was using my H55M Pro, the only way I could get bitstreaming to work was to use ReClock.

Hmm, I'd hate to have to install more software as I everything else I have setup is running fine. Is there a way to have ReClock just run when using TMT3? I don't want it to run when I'm playing my .mkv's in MPC-HC and FFDShow. Is tehre a setup you followed to get it to work?
post #3185 of 3675
I followed some ReClock guide I found on the internet. I don't recall where it is though. You can tell ReClock to only work on certain applications, and TMT3 is one of them.
post #3186 of 3675
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Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post

I followed some ReClock guide I found on the internet. I don't recall where it is though. You can tell ReClock to only work on certain applications, and TMT3 is one of them.

Alrighty, thanks. I'll look around and see what I can find.
post #3187 of 3675
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Originally Posted by tony7711 View Post

Many thanks to salacious and ricabullah!!! Reaaaaally appreciate your help!!!

Under your inspiration, I went to check the Manual Setup for RX-V863, Under Audio Select -->HDMI Set --> RX-V863. (was "other", meaning pass the audio signal to other device.)

Now, I get my Intel HD Audio support Multi-channel.

Thank you so much.

But yet, I don't have bit-stream HD from TMT3 or PD10...they both set to use HDMI audio output. any thoughts or help are really appreciated.

keep researching...feel I am seeing the light

Quote:
Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

I to have issues getting bit-stream audio from TMT3. I have an ASRock H55M Pro and i3-530. I am able to get bitstream from mkvs via MPC-HC. Under TMT3 I have it set as HDMI output but when I choose the HD audio track in the disc I don't get any audio? Anyone have any suggestions on this?

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Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post

When I was using my H55M Pro, the only way I could get bitstreaming to work was to use ReClock.

Gigabyte H57 or H55 mobo and i3 should give you HD bitstreaming with TMT3 .180 - reclock doesn't bitstream with TMT3 .180 and shouldn't be needed. ASRock first generation H55 mobo did not implement intel MEI drivers and required ReClock with TMT3 .170 - .175 to get bitstreaming. Current ASRock mobo now have allow intel MEI driver to be installed (which is required to get HD bitstreaming from commercial players).

Tony have you installed MEI drivers? What are your settings in windows sound and TMT3 audio? Should be HDMI and original primary audio.
post #3188 of 3675
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Originally Posted by HTPCat View Post

Gigabyte H57 or H55 mobo and i3 should give you HD bitstreaming with TMT3 .180 - reclock doesn't bitstream with TMT3 .180 and shouldn't be needed. ASRock first generation H55 mobo did not implement intel MEI drivers and required ReClock with TMT3 .170 - .175 to get bitstreaming. Current ASRock mobo now have allow intel MEI driver to be installed (which is required to get HD bitstreaming from commercial players).

Tony have you installed MEI drivers? What are your settings in windows sound and TMT3 audio? Should be HDMI and original primary audio.

I have the TMT3 .180 and the first gen of ASRock H55 board so I am unable to install MEI driver. For my TMT3 setup I have it set to HDMI and original primary audio. I have tried using Reclock but can only get multich or core audio track, no hd-audio. Is there a 'workaround' to get the MEI drivers installed on early ASRock H55 boards?
post #3189 of 3675
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Originally Posted by HTPCat View Post

Gigabyte H57 or H55 mobo and i3 should give you HD bitstreaming with TMT3 .180 - reclock doesn't bitstream with TMT3 .180 and shouldn't be needed. ASRock first generation H55 mobo did not implement intel MEI drivers and required ReClock with TMT3 .170 - .175 to get bitstreaming. Current ASRock mobo now have allow intel MEI driver to be installed (which is required to get HD bitstreaming from commercial players).

Tony have you installed MEI drivers? What are your settings in windows sound and TMT3 audio? Should be HDMI and original primary audio.

My m/b does not support MEI, the same as utee05's.

utee05 - there is no workaround. MEI will not install on our motherboards.

*edit* Changed 'Tony' to 'utee05'.
post #3190 of 3675
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Originally Posted by HTPCat View Post

Gigabyte H57 or H55 mobo and i3 should give you HD bitstreaming with TMT3 .180 - reclock doesn't bitstream with TMT3 .180 and shouldn't be needed. ASRock first generation H55 mobo did not implement intel MEI drivers and required ReClock with TMT3 .170 - .175 to get bitstreaming. Current ASRock mobo now have allow intel MEI driver to be installed (which is required to get HD bitstreaming from commercial players).

Tony have you installed MEI drivers? What are your settings in windows sound and TMT3 audio? Should be HDMI and original primary audio.

Thank you so much, HTPCat!!!

I have installed MEI Drivers. And I did it again. I upgraded to TMT3 .180 version.

I set as you told me, in Audio setup page in TMT3, Sound Card: Intel Display Audio , as HDMI, as Original Primary Audio.

But everytime I tried to play some movies with HD Audio, the TMT3 will change "Original Primary Audio" to "PCM Lossless Audio" automatically. My AVR's screen shows 2 channels and DTS.

please help me. many thanks
post #3191 of 3675
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Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post

My m/b does not support MEI, the same as Tony's.

Tony - there is no workaround. MEI will not install on our motherboards.

my friend,

my m/b is Gigabyte H57USB3, I installed MEI and it shows installation completed, not saying error.

our m/b doesn't support MEI?
post #3192 of 3675
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Originally Posted by tony7711 View Post

my friend,

my m/b is Gigabyte H57USB3, I installed MEI and it shows installation completed, not saying error.

our m/b doesn't support MEI?

Sorry - I meant to say utee05, not Tony.
post #3193 of 3675
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Originally Posted by tony7711 View Post

my friend,

my m/b is Gigabyte H57USB3, I installed MEI and it shows installation completed, not saying error.

our m/b doesn't support MEI?

I think he might've confused your post with mine. Sorry for confusion. I have an ASRock H55M board which doesn't support MEI.
post #3194 of 3675
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Originally Posted by tony7711 View Post

Thank you so much, HTPCat!!!

I have installed MEI Drivers. And I did it again. I upgraded to TMT3 .180 version.

I set as you told me, in Audio setup page in TMT3, Sound Card: Intel Display Audio , as HDMI, as Original Primary Audio.

But everytime I tried to play some movies with HD Audio, the TMT3 will change "Original Primary Audio" to "PCM Lossless Audio" automatically. My AVR's screen shows 2 channels and DTS.

please help me. many thanks

Could you tell me are you trying to play the movie from disc, iso, blu-ray file folder structure or file? What movie?
post #3195 of 3675
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

I have the TMT3 .180 and the first gen of ASRock H55 board so I am unable to install MEI driver. For my TMT3 setup I have it set to HDMI and original primary audio. I have tried using Reclock but can only get multich or core audio track, no hd-audio. Is there a 'workaround' to get the MEI drivers installed on early ASRock H55 boards?

Use TMT3 .170 or .175 and it should work.
post #3196 of 3675
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Originally Posted by HTPCat View Post

Could you tell me are you trying to play the movie from disc, iso, blu-ray file folder structure or file? What movie?

Thanks a lot for your help, HTPCat

I have tried following, all the same,

Avatar.2009.BluRay.US.1080p.AVC.DTS-HD.MA5.1, under this DIR, there are BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders. The movie file was packed as .m2ts under STREAM Folder. I double clicked the biggest m2ts file in the STREAM folder.

I also tried,

King.Kong.Extended.versions.2005.Blu-ray.REMUX.VC1.1080P.DTSHDMA

The Dark Knight 2008 Bluray 1080p CEE VC-1 TrueHD

same file format as Avatar

The.Bourne.Supremacy.2004.Blu-ray.REMUX.VC1.1080P.DTSHDMA.DD51, in .TS format.

all of above can only be palyed in 2 channels mode. the audio setup in TMT3switched from "original primary audio" to "PCM lossless Mix" automaticcaly.

Really appretiate your help
post #3197 of 3675
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Originally Posted by notnyt View Post

ati 5xxx cards do not have this problem.

Also, here are the custom timings I used to get smooth playback at 23.976 with my core i3


This is for 1920x1080 output

The proper timing info that I found to get 23.976 playback is as follows:

active pixels horizontal: 1920 vertical: 1080
front porch horizontal: 638 vertical: 4
sync width horizontal: 44 vertical: 5
total pixels horizontal: 2750 vertical: 1124
polarity horizontal: positive vertical: positive
refresh rate: 23.978

for 59.94:
front porch horizontal: 88 vertical: 4
sync width horizontal: 44 vertical: 5
total pixels horizontal: 2200 vertical: 1124
refresh rate: 59.942

for 29.97:
unverified (my projector cannot output at this refresh rate)
front porch horizontal: 638 vertical: 4
sync width horizontal: 44 vertical: 5
total pixels horizontal: 2750 vertical: 1124
polarity horizontal: positive vertical: positive
refresh rate: 29.972


50hz and 25hz do not seem to have any issues.

good luck

please elaborate on this! where are you entering these custom settins?

for the record.. any hd playback on my i3/p7h55mpro looks stuttery in any software player.. ie tmt, powerdvd, or mpc.. but if i run reclock with them.. even though it doesnt show a change in the refresh rate it looks much much smoother.. i hope it isnt my imagination.. but when i run reclock most of the time it has a red clock face in the toolbar.. but playback still looks so much smoother.. however then bitstream doesnt work...LOL.. it is either bitstreaming or flawless, chopless, stutterless video with pcm, or choppy stuttery video and bitstream audio... grrrr
post #3198 of 3675
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Originally Posted by tony7711 View Post

Thanks a lot for your help, HTPCat

I have tried following, all the same,

Avatar.2009.BluRay.US.1080p.AVC.DTS-HD.MA5.1, under this DIR, there are BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders. The movie file was packed as .m2ts under STREAM Folder. I double clicked the biggest m2ts file in the STREAM folder.

I also tried,

King.Kong.Extended.versions.2005.Blu-ray.REMUX.VC1.1080P.DTSHDMA

The Dark Knight 2008 Bluray 1080p CEE VC-1 TrueHD

same file format as Avatar

The.Bourne.Supremacy.2004.Blu-ray.REMUX.VC1.1080P.DTSHDMA.DD51, in .TS format.

all of above can only be palyed in 2 channels mode. the audio setup in TMT3switched from "original primary audio" to "PCM lossless Mix" automaticcaly.

Really appretiate your help

I am not sure, but I don't think you can bitstream TMT3 from file so how about trying to play from folder (this is how I play all of my 300 + Blu-rays). Open TMT3 .180 and at the bottom click on folder to select source and then click on Open disc folder then point to the folder with the volume label of the movie like Avatar or The Dark Knight the OK button should light up and then click it and it should start playing - hopefully bitstreaming DTSHD-MA.
post #3199 of 3675
Hi, I'm considdering investing in the Clarkdale platform for my HTPCs are there any reasons to choose i5 over i3 for a HTPC? And are there any hopes for a fix on the 24p problem?
post #3200 of 3675
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zicoz View Post

Hi, I'm considdering investing in the Clarkdale platform for my HTPCs are there any reasons to choose i5 over i3 for a HTPC? And are there any hopes for a fix on the 24p problem?

I don't see a reason to choose i5 over i3 for an HTPC. i3-530 ($113) or i3-540 ($117) is the best choice.
post #3201 of 3675
Thanks.
post #3202 of 3675
I have i3 + H55, last time I changed my desktop refresh to 23Hz in Intel drivers, run XBMC and it shows 23.98Hz run and test few MKV 1080p movies in 24p and it was ultra smooth without any juddering, so it's means thats its no 24p problem now ? I'm asking because movies are in 23.976.

When it was set on 59Hz in drivers (59.94Hz XBMC) was big juddering.
post #3203 of 3675
Anyone able to confirm either of their claims for smooth 23.943 playback?
post #3204 of 3675
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Originally Posted by PeterPL View Post

I have i3 + H55, last time I changed my desktop refresh to 23Hz in Intel drivers, run XBMC and it shows 23.98Hz run and test few MKV 1080p movies in 24p and it was ultra smooth without any juddering, so it's means thats its no 24p problem now ? I'm asking because movies are in 23.976.

When it was set on 59Hz in drivers (59.94Hz XBMC) was big juddering.

What version of the Intel drivers are you using? With v2141, I am unable to replicate your findings.

Also, it would be great if user notnyt kindly provides the missing pieces in the Custom Resolutions data entry window.
post #3205 of 3675
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Originally Posted by PeterPL View Post

I have i3 + H55, last time I changed my desktop refresh to 23Hz in Intel drivers, run XBMC and it shows 23.98Hz run and test few MKV 1080p movies in 24p and it was ultra smooth without any juddering, so it's means thats its no 24p problem now ? I'm asking because movies are in 23.976.

When it was set on 59Hz in drivers (59.94Hz XBMC) was big juddering.

Which drivers are you currently running that you don't see any issues with 24p playback?
post #3206 of 3675
Running xbmc and the 2141 drivers in 23hz, I get xbmc reporting a refresh rate of 23.98. Playing video is, as far as I can tell, smooth. However, the audio and video are not at all synced, indicating to me that the audio is playing at different speeds. What I think is happening is that xbmc is speeding up the video to match the 24 fps and doing nothing to the audio.

I am running my sound straight to my receiver through spdif, and hdmi to my tv.

Reclock reports 24.000.
post #3207 of 3675
Also, apparently the intel drivers do not allow 59.94 either...I was disappointed to find that the 59 option was reported as 60.000 by reclock.
post #3208 of 3675
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Originally Posted by hdtv47lg70 View Post

please elaborate on this! where are you entering these custom settins?

for the record.. any hd playback on my i3/p7h55mpro looks stuttery in any software player.. ie tmt, powerdvd, or mpc.. but if i run reclock with them.. even though it doesnt show a change in the refresh rate it looks much much smoother.. i hope it isnt my imagination.. but when i run reclock most of the time it has a red clock face in the toolbar.. but playback still looks so much smoother.. however then bitstream doesnt work...LOL.. it is either bitstreaming or flawless, chopless, stutterless video with pcm, or choppy stuttery video and bitstream audio... grrrr

dtd calc

http://www.clevertec.co.uk/productsfree.htm
post #3209 of 3675
I have tried your settings in dtd calc, but it still reports 24.000 after reboot.
post #3210 of 3675
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

Which drivers are you currently running that you don't see any issues with 24p playback?

I'm using latest 2141, as I said no problem only when I set drivers on 23Hz (XBMC reports 23.98) 23.976 movies run ideal smooth (I have good eye, testing on "The Incredible Hulk Movie" on begining when camera is flying over village = good material for testing ) in XBMC 9.11, no problems with audio sync too (using Digital output, DTS, DD passthrough) also enabled Vertical blank sync in XBMC.
Only problem is when I run movies in higher fps for example 25fps and higher then I see jumps/juddering on that movies.

My config Corei3 530+H55 -> Onkyo 905 -> Sony KDL-46Z4500.
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