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post #3241 of 3675
7/30/10 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I recently tested TMT3 (3.0.1.185) and PowerDVD 10 (10.0.1830.51) and I saw no issue in (automatically) changing refresh rate. MPC-HC with EVR CP worked fine too, but it does not need it any longer.

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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

For me these two statements are contradictory.

TMT3 and PDVD aren't FSE, MPC-HC isn't FSE but may use FSE in one of the renderers.

MC and SageTV (optional) are two e.g. of FSE applications, and it is possible with some creative workarounds* to change the resolution but not w/o some development effort.

* the DTBAddin minimizes the MC window which takes it out of FSE mode, changes the res/rate, and them maximizes it to flip it back to FSE
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post #3242 of 3675
7/30/10 at 1:29pm
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation.
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post #3243 of 3675
7/30/10 at 1:44pm
tmt is not fse? On my system it disables aero and when windowed shows tearing. In fullscreen it doesnt. in my experience without aero only fse fixes tearing.
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post #3244 of 3675
7/30/10 at 1:53pm
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tmt is not fse? On my system it disables aero and when windowed shows tearing. In fullscreen it doesnt. in my experience without aero only fse fixes tearing.

There's no reason for an FSE application to disable DWM composition (i.e. basic mode), that it does is an indication that it's not FSE. The effect you're seeing is probably related to the renderer's implementation.
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post #3245 of 3675
7/31/10 at 2:14am
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Originally Posted by PeterPL View Post

In ATI I have to change manually to 23Hz everytime when I want to watch 23.796 movie ?

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When I change in Intel drivers to 23Hz, XBMC reports 23.98Hz.

I don't get it. Does it mean the "problem" with 24p is really intermittent and doesn't happen to some people?
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post #3246 of 3675
7/31/10 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by DavidC2 View Post

I don't get it. Does it mean the "problem" with 24p is really intermittent and doesn't happen to some people?

I haven't used XBMC in forever, are we sure that it's not reporting the frame rate of the source material?

I've only seen deviation from 24.000 in ReClock with a custom resolution created with DTDCalc (never was able to get it to lineup properly though).
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post #3247 of 3675
7/31/10 at 1:30pm
^no, XBMC reports 23.98Hz in system information actual set refresh in Intel settings without playing any movie, so if you set 23Hz that's 23.98 not 24p like some people say so it's OK, but I don't know it should be 23.976

The only problem is that when you want watch movies in higher fps 25fps 29,97 you have to change manually everything in intel drivers
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post #3248 of 3675
7/31/10 at 7:03pm
Ok I got this thing going but I can't get any HD audio out of it. In the control panel for sounds it lists my Onky 5007 as the default device and says it supports DTS, DD, and DD Plus. No HD listings. The Driver says it is by Microsoft which doesn't seem right but it automaticly installs it that way. Their is another HDMI Device listed but says it is unpluged. The only Realtek devices are Digital and Optical

Do I have the wrong driver some how, I am dieing for bitstream here....

Gigabyte H57M-USB3 with i3 550 to Onkyo 5007 to Panny 4000 projector
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post #3249 of 3675
7/31/10 at 7:13pm
renethx and dbone1026 thanks for the replies.

The issue was solve by updating the intel drivers
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post #3250 of 3675
7/31/10 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Ok I got this thing going but I can't get any HD audio out of it. In the control panel for sounds it lists my Onky 5007 as the default device and says it supports DTS, DD, and DD Plus. No HD listings. The Driver says it is by Microsoft which doesn't seem right but it automaticly installs it that way. Their is another HDMI Device listed but says it is unpluged. The only Realtek devices are Digital and Optical

Do I have the wrong driver some how, I am dieing for bitstream here....

Gigabyte H57M-USB3 with i3 550 to Onkyo 5007 to Panny 4000 projector

It doesn't sound like you have the Display Audio device enabled, or maybe it thinks it is unplugged? I'm not sure exactly where that setting is in a Gigabyte BIOS. The drivers for HDMI Display Audio are included with the Intel graphics drivers.
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post #3251 of 3675
7/31/10 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

It doesn't sound like you have the Display Audio device enabled, or maybe it thinks it is unplugged? I'm not sure exactly where that setting is in a Gigabyte BIOS. The drivers for HDMI Display Audio are included with the Intel graphics drivers.

I will have to check the BIOS setting I do get video and audio through HDMI just fine, just no HD audio.
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post #3252 of 3675
7/31/10 at 11:04pm
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Ok I got this thing going but I can't get any HD audio out of it. In the control panel for sounds it lists my Onky 5007 as the default device and says it supports DTS, DD, and DD Plus. No HD listings. The Driver says it is by Microsoft which doesn't seem right but it automaticly installs it that way. Their is another HDMI Device listed but says it is unpluged. The only Realtek devices are Digital and Optical

Do I have the wrong driver some how, I am dieing for bitstream here....

Gigabyte H57M-USB3 with i3 550 to Onkyo 5007 to Panny 4000 projector

are you connected via hdmi?

device manager is showing microsoft driver then you need to reinstall intel drivers.. it should list intel driver and a fairly recent date.. also you can check it in dxdiag.. it will list the driver there as well.. you should have two audio devices.. at least i do with my asus p7h55mpro.. not sure how the gigabyte board is configured.. but it sounds as if you arent loading the intel drivers..
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post #3253 of 3675
8/1/10 at 7:28am
Ok I got it going. Installed the latest drivers off from Intel and then had to update the HDMI audio seperate to get rid of the Microsoft drivers. Bitstream now works

Next question, is it normal for this thing to clinp blacks and not give blacker then black? I am getting black crush or something it looks like. DVE confirms no BTB
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post #3254 of 3675
8/1/10 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post


Next question, is it normal for this thing to clinp blacks and not give blacker then black? I am getting black crush or something it looks like. DVE confirms no BTB

BTB clipping is normal, crush is not. If you want to enable BTB check "Override Application Settings" on the "Media -> Color Enhancements" tab of the GPU settings utility.
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post #3255 of 3675
8/1/10 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

BTB clipping is normal, crush is not. If you want to enable BTB check "Override Application Settings" on the "Media -> Color Enhancements" tab of the GPU settings utility.

Tried that and still no BTB

Maybe it is in my head but it looks like their is less shadow detail, blacks all running together, then I had on my ATI 5700 card. I would have to hook it back up to tell for sure but it just doesn't look as good.
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post #3256 of 3675
8/1/10 at 6:21pm
Another thing I found, DVD's won't play in Media Center, or AVI or MPG

Found that if I set the audio option to 2 channel in the control panel instead of 7.1 they work. Is this a common problem and what other things am I messing up by swithcing it to 2 channel.
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post #3257 of 3675
8/1/10 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Another thing I found, DVD's won't play in Media Center, or AVI or MPG

Found that if I set the audio option to 2 channel in the control panel instead of 7.1 they work. Is this a common problem and what other things am I messing up by swithcing it to 2 channel.

If you are bitstreaming, you aren't messing anything up. You're sending the audio out to your receiver, which decodes it correctly.

When you say DVDs won't play, what exactly do you mean? My DVDs have always played in MCE without any problems.
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post #3258 of 3675
8/1/10 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Tried that and still no BTB

Maybe it is in my head but it looks like their is less shadow detail, blacks all running together, then I had on my ATI 5700 card. I would have to hook it back up to tell for sure but it just doesn't look as good.

Is your downstream equipment using RGB full/enhanced? Except for some early drivers they use RGB limited (16-235) for HDMI.
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post #3259 of 3675
8/1/10 at 8:12pm
Is this worth it or just a waste of money?

Intel BX80613i7980X Core i7 980X Extreme Edition Processor
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post #3260 of 3675
8/2/10 at 1:17am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Another thing I found, DVD's won't play in Media Center, or AVI or MPG

Found that if I set the audio option to 2 channel in the control panel instead of 7.1 they work. Is this a common problem and what other things am I messing up by swithcing it to 2 channel.

Yep, known problem. See here. As Kegobeer says, just leave the Windows audio set to 2 channel. Everything will then just work as expected. Just another bizarrity of Windows...
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post #3261 of 3675
8/2/10 at 2:48am
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Originally Posted by PeterPL View Post

The only problem is that when you want watch movies in higher fps 25fps 29,97 you have to change manually everything in intel drivers

You don't have to do this as XBMC hs the ability to automatically change the refresh rate.
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post #3262 of 3675
8/2/10 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post

Is this worth it or just a waste of money?

Intel BX80613i7980X Core i7 980X Extreme Edition Processor

I have Core i7-980X in my gaming PC. Be aware that it does require an X58 based motherboard. Also, it does not have integrated video or audio so it requires a discrete ATI or nvidia graphics card. Yes, it is overkill for most programs out there, but I'm an overkill kind of guy.

But for my HTPC, I have a Core i5-661 and H55 setup. It does fine for all my media playback, and it generates less heat and fan noise.
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post #3263 of 3675
8/2/10 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by gcoupe View Post

Yep, known problem. See here. As Kegobeer says, just leave the Windows audio set to 2 channel. Everything will then just work as expected. Just another bizarrity of Windows...

Or disable the navigation sounds in Windows Media Center, and you can leave your speaker configuration as 5.1 or 7.1. This happens on other platforms too, so I consider it a Microsoft bug.
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post #3264 of 3675
8/2/10 at 6:28am
Yes, I was wondering about this too, but I didn't know what "DVD's won't play in Media Center, or AVI or MPG" meant specifically.

With the ATI 5000 (with ATI driver) and Nvidia GTX460, live and recorded TV can't be played cause you get a decoder error, if MC sounds are enabled and multichannel is selected in Windows. Don't know DVD's, I don't use MC for that. But the twist is that this doesn't happen with the ATI HDMI cards (4000 and 5000) with the Realtek driver (which is an alternative to the driver provided by ATI).
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post #3265 of 3675
8/2/10 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

Is your downstream equipment using RGB full/enhanced? Except for some early drivers they use RGB limited (16-235) for HDMI.

I don't believe so but I will have to double check. I know the Onkyo 5007 is on pass through. I have to check the projector. The Intel graphics seems pretty limited on option to change the graphic settings compared to the ATI. But atleast I have bitstream which is something I could never get going on the ATI.
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post #3266 of 3675
8/2/10 at 6:37am
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Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post

If you are bitstreaming, you aren't messing anything up. You're sending the audio out to your receiver, which decodes it correctly.

When you say DVDs won't play, what exactly do you mean? My DVDs have always played in MCE without any problems.

The video would play for about 5 seconds with no audio and then it would stop reporting a it could not play the video.

This was DVD riped as folders with no compression. AVI and MPG files that were rips from DVD. Did not try and actual disc in the drive.

I did try disabling the sound in Media Center first and that had no effect. Switching the sound properties to 2 channel did fix it, I haven't tried turning the Media Center sounds back on yet.
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post #3267 of 3675
8/2/10 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

I have Core i7-980X in my gaming PC. Be aware that it does require an X58 based motherboard. Also, it does not have integrated video or audio so it requires a discrete ATI or nvidia graphics card. Yes, it is overkill for most programs out there, but I'm an overkill kind of guy.

But for my HTPC, I have a Core i5-661 and H55 setup. It does fine for all my media playback, and it generates less heat and fan noise.

Thanks for the response and the pointers.
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post #3268 of 3675
8/3/10 at 4:58pm
Guys,

After ages i've found myself i can not watch anything with Clarkdale only installation; i've discovered i can only work with Clarkdale if i already setup my system as hybrid. What am i missing?

Here are the details:

Quoted from arcsoft forums:

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Here are my findings (i tried minimum three times to confirm) :

Clarkdale only system works without any issues with already installed systems as hybrid but a fresh install as Clarkdale only system always gave me lots of issues; it's not up to arcsoft or reclock btw. (always hangs on)

Tried with Seven 64 Home Premium and Seven 32 Pro....
Several INTEL drivers and several BIOS versions... Giga H55-UD3H with a 540.


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post #3269 of 3675
8/3/10 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Guys,

After ages i've found myself i can not watch anything with Clarkdale only installation; i've discovered i can only work with Clarkdale if i already setup my system as hybrid. What am i missing?

Here are the details:

Quoted from slysoft forums:




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Do what I did - change motherboards. I went from an ASRock to an Intel and haven't had any problems since. I recycled the processor and RAM, so I was only out $90 for another m/b. I picked up a DH55TC and it's been fantastic.
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post #3270 of 3675
8/3/10 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post

Do what I did - change motherboards. I went from an ASRock to an Intel and haven't had any problems since. I recycled the processor and RAM, so I was only out $90 for another m/b. I picked up a DH55TC and it's been fantastic.

Did you live similar issues before? (btw that-intel mobo- is not suitable for hybrid systems afaik?)

EDIT: I especially bought this mobo to use nVidia for video and iGPU for audio as a hybrid system but nowadays i don't need a hybrid system since i have an nVidia 460 anymore.
So i forgot it and don't need an INTEL.
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