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post #871 of 3675
1/18/10 at 9:47pm
If you're talking about the "VIA high definition audio driver", that's irrelevant to the HDMI audio. HDMI Audio drivers come with the "VGA driver" (which is kind of a misnomer since it's a graphics driver, not limited to VGA). The Audio driver is under the ibxHDMI subdirectory once you unzip the file. I don't think you need the stuff under the HDMI directory.

Re: 2 channels... have you gone into Control Panel | Hardware and Sound | Playback and then, after single clicking on the HDMI audio device, clicked the Configure button? If you're stuck with Stereo at that point, you're probably not detecting the >2 channel capability of your receiver. This could be due to some EDID read weirdness, or possibly because you have your receiver set to audio passthrough and therefore the capabilities being advertised back to your HTPC are the ones of your TV rather than of your receiver.
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post #872 of 3675
1/19/10 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by Makaveli6103 View Post

I did d/l the audio driver from ASRock website and still no go.

Do you have the audio output in the external player set to HDMI? I had the same problem until to changed the setting in TMT3.
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post #873 of 3675
1/19/10 at 8:07am
Just to confirm, you are able to rip a blu-ray to an MKV keeping DTS-HD MA and then playback and bitstream that audio to your receiver? you need a 3rd party software player though? and can that work seemlessly within media center?
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post #874 of 3675
1/19/10 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by Metric View Post

Just to confirm, you are able to rip a blu-ray to an MKV keeping DTS-HD MA and then playback and bitstream that audio to your receiver? you need a 3rd party software player though? and can that work seemlessly within media center?

You do not need a 3rd party player if you go the mkv route, using the latest FFDSHow and Haali you should be able to bitstream an mkv w/ hd audio in WMC
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post #875 of 3675
1/19/10 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

You do not need a 3rd party player if you go the mkv route, using the latest FFDSHow and Haali you should be able to bitstream an mkv w/ hd audio in WMC

Thats awesome! thank you.
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post #876 of 3675
1/19/10 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

If you're talking about the "VIA high definition audio driver", that's irrelevant to the HDMI audio. HDMI Audio drivers come with the "VGA driver" (which is kind of a misnomer since it's a graphics driver, not limited to VGA). The Audio driver is under the ibxHDMI subdirectory once you unzip the file. I don't think you need the stuff under the HDMI directory.

Re: 2 channels... have you gone into Control Panel | Hardware and Sound | Playback and then, after single clicking on the HDMI audio device, clicked the Configure button? If you're stuck with Stereo at that point, you're probably not detecting the >2 channel capability of your receiver. This could be due to some EDID read weirdness, or possibly because you have your receiver set to audio passthrough and therefore the capabilities being advertised back to your HTPC are the ones of your TV rather than of your receiver.

Oh interesting. That is weird they would name it VGA driver.

And it worked. Thanks a lot

But I realized I had the newer version 8.15.10.2021 installed and the ASRock driver CD installed an older 8.15.10.1968 which worked fine. Are there some problems with the new version?
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post #877 of 3675
1/19/10 at 11:54am
The Intel DH57JG or Zotac H55-ITX WiFi need to come out! I have all my components and am just waiting for a mini-ITX motherboard. I wish Asus or Gigabyte would come out with one...I've always had a good experience with them.
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post #878 of 3675
1/19/10 at 12:01pm
Hi,

I posted this question in another thread, but this thread seems more appropriate.

My Wishes are pretty simple, and I'm wondering if I could go the i3/i5 way with HD Video/Audio decoding.

My (new) HTPC will be used for the following:

- Watching 720p/1080p .MKV files with MPC-HC
- Watching SD DVD's
- Downloading (120mbps) and watching the above files simultaneously,which is a problem at the moment with my AMD Dual core.
I don't want a mediaserver somewhere else in the house, so I will be downloading on the HTPC's harddisk. This is really important to me. Unrarring and watching 720p content
is impossible at them moment (Using Newsleecher btw.)

- No need for Blu-ray discs (I have a dedicated player)
- Surfing the web
- Editing AVCHD files using Sony Vegas 9
- Watching online content (Youtube HD/Microsoft Silverlight)
- Sometimes using Microsoft Office (Outlook/Word)

Will I need to use an extra Video card, or will an i3 or i5 do?
Which mobo would be my best choice (new h57's?)

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thank you so much.

Cheers,

Erwin
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post #879 of 3675
1/19/10 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by Makaveli6103 View Post

Oh interesting. That is weird they would name it VGA driver.

And it worked. Thanks a lot

But I realized I had the newer version 8.15.10.2021 installed and the ASRock driver CD installed an older 8.15.10.1968 which worked fine. Are there some problems with the new version?

Newer versions are validated by Intel, but sometimes motherboard makers prefer to offer on their website only drivers they themselves have validated for stability. In this case, ASRock appears to have only validated .1968.
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post #880 of 3675
1/19/10 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

Trying to figure out my display options.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128421
Implies I can get dual digital out. So far only can use vga and hdmi or, I'm sure another digital out. I would like three digitals out. But I'm guessing two may be maximum. But haven't got it to work.
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Yes, that's the implication, but if you look a the MB manual, page 20, it's clear that you can only use 1 digital output at a time.

In fact, if you use the DisplayPort, you cannot use any other video output port.

Very sad. The reality is that tag line "supports dual digital output" is really misleading.

Combination Supported or Not
DVI-D + D-Sub Yes
DVI-D + HDMI No
DVI-D + DPj No
HDMI + D-Sub Yes
HDMI + DPj No
DP + D-Subj No
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post #881 of 3675
1/19/10 at 12:56pm
It's not a chipset limitation. Wo0zy got HDMI + DVI on the Asus board. There is a boottime limitation that will not let you see BIOS from both at once, but in Windows it should be doable unless Gigabyte have done something weird.

Have you tried it? Not sure I always trust Gigabyte manuals (cf. bogus HDMI audio information).
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post #882 of 3675
1/19/10 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by hellerbrewing View Post

Yeah, I still need to pick up a WinTV-HVR-2250 to replace my old analog dual tuner card. Also need to decide which dinovo keyboard I want to get. Probably pick up another another GGC-H20L as well. At least I have enough parts to get the machine up and running.

I know this is slightly off topic here, but can you still buy the GGC-H20L anywhere? I wanted another just recently (bought mine a year ago) and it seems to be unavailable now. The new version is identical minus the HD-DVD support (which I'm interested in, having both high def formats).
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post #883 of 3675
1/19/10 at 1:22pm
Can anyone tell me what option you are using for refresh rate in the graphics properties menu of the Intel HD graphics? This is confusing me because the system sets the default for my receiver/Panasonic LCD at a 30hz refresh rate which does not seem correct. When I change it to 60hz (or keep 30hz for that matter) I am having problems with TMT3. The only options are 24hz, 30hz, or 60hz. I also have a 19" Hanns G LCD monitor on the VGA connection at
60hz and everything looks great on it. I am using extended desktop to the receiver/Panasonic TV, not clone.

Thanks.
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post #884 of 3675
1/19/10 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by Jung Grasshoppa View Post

I know this is slightly off topic here, but can you still buy the GGC-H20L anywhere? I wanted another just recently (bought mine a year ago) and it seems to be unavailable now. The new version is identical minus the HD-DVD support (which I'm interested in, having both high def formats).

There seem to be quite a few of them on ebay. Many times they have been only slightly used (or so they say) and people are selling them because they could not get Blu ray to play properly on their HTPC. You can also search for the GGC-H20N if you don't care about lightscribe. I have a GGW-H20L (bluray writer) on my main rig, which was a great deal on newegg before they stopped selling them, and a GGC-H20L hooked up to my media server. I picked this one up on ebay but I have to say I have yet to try blu ray on either of them.
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post #885 of 3675
1/19/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by hellerbrewing View Post

There seem to be quite a few of them on ebay. Many times they have been only slightly used (or so they say) and people are selling them because they could not get Blu ray to play properly on their HTPC. You can also search for the GGC-H20N if you don't care about lightscribe. I have a GGW-H20L (bluray writer) on my main rig, which was a great deal on newegg before they stopped selling them, and a GGC-H20L hooked up to my media server. I picked this one up on ebay but I have to say I have yet to try blu ray on either of them.

Thanks much, I'll check and see what I can find. I'm rather distracted now with the rebuilding of my HTPC, but probably get to it shortly. So far the Asus P7H55-M Pro motherboard and i5-661 cpu have done just fine - running Win7 Ultimate x64 and TMT3. Just got mostly finished last night but itching to get done with work and go home and finish the job. And dying for that update from Arcsoft too...

Many thanks to all the great info on this thread also, it's helped much!
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post #886 of 3675
1/19/10 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

It's not a chipset limitation. Wo0zy got HDMI + DVI on the Asus board. There is a boottime limitation that will not let you see BIOS from both at once, but in Windows it should be doable unless Gigabyte have done something weird.

Yep. Works fine on the Asus. I've attached screenshots of the Intel control panel with clone mode and extended desktop set.

As usual, clone mode has the limitation that both displays can only run at the highest resoluton of the "lesser" display. Also, it seems that scaling doesn't work in clone mode (at least if you're testing with two displays of very different capabilities as I am). Shouldn't be a problem with two 1080p capable displays.

Edit. Just added a third screenshot showing working HDMI audio to in dual digital display setup. In this setup only one of the displays is capable of HDMI audio. Not sure what would happen if both displays supported it. May try and test that tomorow at work.

Wo0zy
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post #887 of 3675
1/19/10 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Makaveli6103 View Post

So now I cannot get my audio working. I set up default as HDMI audio out but no audio. It also says it only supports 2 channels. My case does have an HD audio connector that has a headphone jack on the front. Does that affect anything?

Core i3 and ASRock H55M Pro board.
Connected through HDMI to Onkyo 606 receiver.

Check your AVR settings and make sure that HDMI audio is set to OFF. My Integra 9.8 was set to ON and I was having the same problem you are.
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post #888 of 3675
1/19/10 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

So SD deinterlacing is fine? I never change inputs when watching content, so the second issue wouldn't affect me.

As long as I'm sure there is no 24p stutter and HD/SD deinterlacing are good I think I'll go with the i5 for a m-itx build.

I'd say so yes. Tested with "real world" viewing and "Cheese Slices" (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=cheese+slices) so far.

As usual Cheese Slices looks a mess but an equal mess to the results from my 8600GT and a better mess than with an nVIDIA 730i (9400) board. Haven't tested a recent ATi solution to compare but I always found ATi did better in artificial tests than actual viewing (at least in PAL land). Just my opinion.

Not a lot of point trying to post screenshots but babgvant's review seems to agree with my findings (or rather the other way around).

Wo0zy
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post #889 of 3675
1/19/10 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by E-Nygma View Post

Hi,

I posted this question in another thread, but this thread seems more appropriate.

My Wishes are pretty simple, and I'm wondering if I could go the i3/i5 way with HD Video/Audio decoding.

My (new) HTPC will be used for the following:

- Watching 720p/1080p .MKV files with MPC-HC
- Watching SD DVD's
- Downloading (120mbps) and watching the above files simultaneously,which is a problem at the moment with my AMD Dual core.
I don't want a mediaserver somewhere else in the house, so I will be downloading on the HTPC's harddisk. This is really important to me. Unrarring and watching 720p content
is impossible at them moment (Using Newsleecher btw.)

- No need for Blu-ray discs (I have a dedicated player)
- Surfing the web
- Editing AVCHD files using Sony Vegas 9
- Watching online content (Youtube HD/Microsoft Silverlight)
- Sometimes using Microsoft Office (Outlook/Word)

Will I need to use an extra Video card, or will an i3 or i5 do?
Which mobo would be my best choice (new h57's?)

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thank you so much.

Cheers,

Erwin

This is pretty much what I am going to be doing with the Core i3-530 with no video card. I just received everything yesterday but so far everything is working fine. I havent watched and mvk files while doing other tasks though.
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post #890 of 3675
1/19/10 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

It's not a chipset limitation. Wo0zy got HDMI + DVI on the Asus board. There is a boottime limitation that will not let you see BIOS from both at once, but in Windows it should be doable unless Gigabyte have done something weird.

Have you tried it? Not sure I always trust Gigabyte manuals (cf. bogus HDMI audio information).

So far only VGA and hdmi. When I connect to the DVI the VGA goes blank
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post #891 of 3675
1/19/10 at 3:18pm
Can't do all three at once that I'm aware.
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post #892 of 3675
1/19/10 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by nightfly85 View Post

Yes, that's the implication, but if you look a the MB manual, page 20, it's clear that you can only use 1 digital output at a time.

In fact, if you use the DisplayPort, you cannot use any other video output port.

Very sad. The reality is that tag line "supports dual digital output" is really misleading.

Combination Supported or Not
DVI-D + D-Sub Yes
DVI-D + HDMI No
DVI-D + DPj No
HDMI + D-Sub Yes
HDMI + DPj No
DP + D-Subj No

Yes, but it also says "There is no such limitation in operating system environment".
If I connect to display port with adapter, nothing happens.
I'm thinking it's a BIOS setting as I did enable VGA always on, but it disables when connecting DVI.
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post #893 of 3675
1/19/10 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

Can't do all three at once that I'm aware.

Just hdmi and dvi won't work.
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post #894 of 3675
1/19/10 at 3:24pm
WoOzy,

I can get your same display images with hdmi and vga. It lists vga as monitor and hdmi AVR 605 as Digital Monitor.
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post #895 of 3675
1/19/10 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

WoOzy,

I can get your same display images with hdmi and vga. It lists vga as monitor and hdmi AVR 605 as Digital Monitor.

My images show HDMI (Digital TV) and DVI (Digital Display). No VGA connected. Haven't tried VGA and DVI but VGA and HDMI also works on this board

What board are you using? If it's the Asus I'm not sure what's going on. If not then there could be a board limitation as Archibeal suggests.

Wo0zy
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post #896 of 3675
1/19/10 at 4:57pm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128421

A review asking where are the dual digital outputs has been posted.

Yes hdmi and vga here too, but not hdmi and dvi.
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post #897 of 3675
1/19/10 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128421

A review asking where are the dual digital outputs has been posted.

Yes hdmi and vga here too, but not hdmi and dvi.

Ouch!

Looks like a Gigabyte FUBAR.

Wonder if it can be fixed? Are you going to take a chance or return it and get an Asus?

Let me know how it goes. I really like Gigabyte boards as a rule.

All the best.

Wo0zy
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post #898 of 3675
1/19/10 at 6:03pm
Your MB, Asus P7H55D-M Evo, specifically notes on the manufacturer page hdmi/dvi/vga output. Can't find anything similar @ gigabyte.
I did update to 8.45.10.1995 and unless I did something wrong, it was the most uneventful video driver I ever did. I had to check driver to realize it updated.

Changing MB all depends on how discrete 4670 install goes. How will ATI setup with Intel?
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post #899 of 3675
1/19/10 at 8:03pm
any m-itx boards with usb 3.0 announced?

any confirmation if jet geyser has cir headers?
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post #900 of 3675
1/19/10 at 8:11pm
Anyone got a link directly to the latest Intel video drivers for the H55 boards? I'm having a heck of a time finding them on Intel's site. Or I'm blind.
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