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post #61 of 1011
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Originally Posted by yakkosmurf View Post

Very good info guys. Thanks for posting it. Bitstreaming was a needed addition. I'm in the camp that doesn't care either way. I have a new receiver that processes and handles whatever nicely. So, I'll stick with my launch model (and dead quiet) 60GB model. But, it's nice to see them add the new HDMI chip for those in need of it.

Btw, does the new one handle SACDs? That would be a big negative for me should my current one fail.

I would suspect not, as none of the models after the last PS2-compatible one (the MGS4 80GB release in June/July 2008) did, IIRC - i.e., the smaller cooler chip that eliminated PS-2 software compatibility also lost SACD playback.
post #62 of 1011
I guess I'll go against the grain and say "dang, I sure would like my AVR to light up with the HD codecs". I'm not going to take a loss on my current PS3,but I for one, would prefer to bit stream. Oh well....
post #63 of 1011
I sold my 80gb MGS4 one for 330 this morning. That should let me get a nice slim and an extra controller so I will finally have 4.

I hope the HDMI CEC works well with other devices. I have an Onkyo receiver and I hope I can control it through that like I do the DVD player now. I doubt they would limit HDMI CEC to just Bravia TVs since they enabled bistreaming and are focused on HD audio and you cant use that if you connect to the TV directly.
post #64 of 1011
Just in case, it's been mentioned that some receivers (somebody said Onkyo) process bitstreaming and PCM differently (or don't process one of them). I think they're confusing that with being unable to process above some sampling rate. The Onkyo 606 can't process above 48 kHz, bitstreaming or PCM. My Pioneer VSX-01 can't process multichannel above 96 kHz, but does stereo.

There is no reason for the receiver to distinguish between processing bitstreaming or PCM, since bitstreaming will be converted to PCM in the receiver anyway.
post #65 of 1011
About the noise of the PS3, I have been using a friend's 80 GB one (getting the slim!), and the fan is quiet normally, but it has at least two stages. If it gets considerably hot in the room, you'll hear it.

And the bitstreaming thing... It'd be AWESOME if it could bitstream from m2ts files. But since it wasn't that hard for it to decode DTS-HD and TrueHD from m2ts in the first place, I doubt it will.
post #66 of 1011
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Originally Posted by yakkosmurf View Post

Btw, does the new one handle SACDs? That would be a big negative for me should my current one fail.

no only the erlier 60 gb models, It would've be great since they added bitstreaming to add SACD with DSD support but well nothing is perfect
post #67 of 1011
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Originally Posted by SAVholic View Post

no only the erlier 60 gb models, It would've be great since they added bitstreaming to add SACD with DSD support but well nothing is perfect

The 20gb, 60gb and the first 80gb model do SACD. The first 80gb also has PS2 compatibility but in software instead of hardware.
post #68 of 1011
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Have you ever been over an hour into a blu-ray and come across a scene where the dialogue stops and all you could hear was your ps3's fan running at high speed sounding like a jet about to take off....

YES! Which is why I sold my 60gig a couple weeks back and picked up a slim yesterday. I can hear the fan on the slim only standing within about 5', not from my seating position which is exactly what I was hoping for. Of course more movies need to be played to know for sure...
post #69 of 1011
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Originally Posted by Gelinas View Post

Have you ever been over an hour into a blu-ray and come across a scene where the dialogue stops and all you could hear was your ps3's fan running at high speed sounding like a jet about to take off....

I also have never heard noise from my PS3 even during quite passages.
post #70 of 1011
just sold mine as well. Picking up the slim one for the bitstream... just for piece of mind
post #71 of 1011
Hello,
If I did not already have two other BDP's which bitstream, I would definitely get a PS3 Slim. Moreover, if I had any other model than the 60gb launch model, I would sell it in a heartbeat to get the slim. I still like the SACD playback over HDMI and full backwards compatibility to sell it. In addition, to the card readers,etc...

After making as informed as possible decision regarding the possibility of the original PS3 being able to bitstream, I purchased standalone BDP's. If it seemed possible that via fw it could bitstream, I probably would have only purchased one BDP for the bedroom.
I have not used my PS3 as a BDP since the first available BDP's which offered bitstreaming.

Cheers,
AD
post #72 of 1011
I picked up the slim two days ago and love it. Very little to no noise, but it gets pretty warm in the back. I watched an enitre blu ray movie and I could not hear the ps3 from 7 ft away.
post #73 of 1011
Please let's not bicker or waste each other's times about whether the PS3's fan noise was loud. This has been beaten to death and settled. Some people have loud fans, others don't. Because you have a loud PS3 doesn't mean people who don't are lying or deaf. And because you have a quiet PS3 doesn't mean those who don't are hyper-picky whiners or delusional. The good news is that all reports so far seem to confirm that the PS3 Slim is quiet and unobtrusive.

For those new PS3 Slim owners who were PS3 owners as well, can you comment on Blu-ray speed? Engadget's review makes the claim that the Slim is notably slower in loading Blu-ray movies that the original. There are many questions raised by this review that are not addressed by it, including whether or not the times were recorded after one test, whether or not the times were reported when the movies were inserted fresh into the machines (in other words, whether Blu-ray data may have been copied onto the hard drive on one machine from a previous play but not the other), etc. I'm curious to know whether owners of both machines have a similar experience as Engadget.
post #74 of 1011
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Originally Posted by peterlee View Post

For those new PS3 Slim owners who were PS3 owners as well, can you comment on Blu-ray speed? Engadget's review makes the claim that the Slim is notably slower in loading Blu-ray movies that the original. There are many questions raised by this review that are not addressed by it, including whether or not the times were recorded after one test, whether or not the times were reported when the movies were inserted fresh into the machines (in other words, whether Blu-ray data may have been copied onto the hard drive on one machine from a previous play but not the other), etc. I'm curious to know whether owners of both machines have a similar experience as Engadget.

It was discussed briefly here in the Playstation Subsection.
post #75 of 1011
Can PS3 output native video rate/resolution for Blu-ray and DVD?
post #76 of 1011
Yes
post #77 of 1011
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Originally Posted by andydumi View Post

Yes

So it will automatically output 480i/60 for DVD and 1080p/24 for Blu-ray movies with no user intervention? I am asking because I'm wanting to use the PS3 as a video transport and use my Anthem AVM50 for video processing.
post #78 of 1011
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Originally Posted by Ron Alcasid View Post

So it will automatically output 480i/60 for DVD and 1080p/24 for Blu-ray movies with no user intervention? I am asking because I'm wanting to use the PS3 as a video transport and use my Anthem AVM50 for video processing.

If you tell it to do no DVD upscale and force 24p on BD, then will always output at the default for the settings you tell to do.
post #79 of 1011
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Originally Posted by dogdoctor View Post

If you tell it to do no DVD upscale and force 24p on BD, then will always output at the default for the settings you tell to do.

What's not clear is can you turn off deinterlacing for DVD? Basically can DVD video be passed through unprocessed?
post #80 of 1011
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Originally Posted by peterlee View Post

Engadget's review makes the claim that the Slim is notably slower in loading Blu-ray movies that the original.

This scares me quite a bit, although I'd still rather go with slower and quieter than faster and louder... so I guess I'm still in the "PS3 Slim FTW" crowd
post #81 of 1011
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Originally Posted by Ron Alcasid View Post

What's not clear is can you turn off deinterlacing for DVD? Basically can DVD video be passed through unprocessed?

I tried and I can't get a DVD to pass at 480i...I can only get 480p. So I think that answers that question.
post #82 of 1011
Well I just hooked up my friend PS3 Slim to his Samsung LN52A650 TV and I've gotta say, I like it. The web pics actually don't do it justice. It actually looks pretty good in person. I still think the original design looks more stylish but it looks pretty good. It's also quite a bit smaller (hard to judge using online comparisons) and dead silent. I also tested HDMI-CEC on it and it works. Well it kind of works. It does power off and on the PS3 Slim and I can control the PS3 using the Samsung remote, but sometimes if I press left or right it's like I'm hitting the button 2 or 3 times. So I'd say HDMI-CEC control is OK with this particular TV. Overall, I think the redesign is pretty nice.

BTW, I have two PS3s I'm comparing this with too, a 60GB PS3 and an 80GB PS3.
post #83 of 1011
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Originally Posted by 4am View Post

This scares me quite a bit, although I'd still rather go with slower and quieter than faster and louder... so I guess I'm still in the "PS3 Slim FTW" crowd

With regards to the slowness with loading Blu ray, here's what Engadget said:

[quote] It seems that the PS3 Slim's Blu-ray player is actually a tiny bit slower than our 60GB PS3 classic from 2006, albeit not by much. As you can see from the chart, the time between inserting the disc (listening for that last little "click" sound) and having it register in the menu was pretty much the same ten seconds each time, but once you click on the disc and actually launch into the movie, the time it takes to get to a non-loading screen was seconds quicker on the classic. Not a drastic difference, but after so many years to improve the BD technology, you think they'd bother to add something with a little more pep here, and certainly not deliver something with less. [quote]

I bought the slim yesterday and noticed the slowness, for me, it's not a deal breaker.
post #84 of 1011
HDMI-CEC and Samsung LN40B550.

Does not work well. Only the FF and REW buttons work; Stop, Play and Pause buttons do nothing. I have to use the Up Arrow button to get get the Bluray menu, not sure of the right term; it's the menu where you can bookmark and skip chapters. I have to use this menu to get out of FF or Rew to get the movie to play at normal speed.

Just updated FW to 2.80 last night before hitting the zzzz's, don't know if this would make a difference. I'll see and post up my observations.
post #85 of 1011
BTW, not only can the PS3 Slim bitstream DTS-MA and TrueHD but it can also play secondary audio when set to do so (unlike any standalone player). I popped in Death Race to test bitstreaming on the the PS3 Slim and for kicks I activated U Control and to my surprise when the picture in picture content kicked in low and behold the PS3 automatically switched to PCM, when the video finished it automatically switched back to DTS-MA. The PS3 deals with these features more seamlessly than any other player; in fact the only player that comes close is the Oppo because at least you can switch secondary audio on and off in the Oppo on the fly without stopping the disc and going into the setup menu.
post #86 of 1011
Excellent plus for the console. thanks EVT
post #87 of 1011
Anyone with a slim managed to get it to play m2ts files with high def audio streamed or from the xmb or BD iso? Thanks,
post #88 of 1011
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Originally Posted by has123 View Post

Anyone with a slim managed to get it to play m2ts files with high def audio streamed or from the xmb or BD iso? Thanks,

Wondering exactly the same here, but don't have much hope. Bitstreaming of THD/DTS MA probably requires a sort of protected path. If the older PS3 could decode them for bluray but not for m2ts, it was probably deliberate. Hope I'm wrong though, but I'll know probably next week. I chose free shipping, so it's gonna take some days to get to me. It's the first thing I'll be testing.
post #89 of 1011
You can put this in the car and watch Blu-ray's! The PS3 is following in PS2's foot steps. These "improvements" are not enough for me to get one. I have a PS3 already and it works fine.
post #90 of 1011
When you are in bitstream mode do you still get menu sounds? You know the little clicks and beeps on some BD disk menu's. Sounds stupid but I sort of like the audio cue when I select something.
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