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post #871 of 1011
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Originally Posted by moodyman View Post

Strange indeed. At this point I would check your TV settings for anything that would allow your TV to communicate with other devices and make sure that setting is disabled. Keep us posted.

I disabled the AnyNet or whatever. That is the only thing that is remoteable close to connectivity.

I have disabled the same thing on amp and PS3.

Same results.. WTH..
post #872 of 1011
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post

I disabled the AnyNet or whatever. That is the only thing that is remoteable close to connectivity.

I have disabled the same thing on amp and PS3.

Same results.. WTH..

Have your TV connected and your PS3 input selcted on the receiver and go into the PS'3 sound menu, select HDMI then Auto....what formats does it say are available?? Does it list any 5.1 formats??
post #873 of 1011
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Originally Posted by moodyman View Post

Have your TV connected and your PS3 input selcted on the receiver and go into the PS'3 sound menu, select HDMI then Auto....what formats does it say are available?? Does it list any 5.1 formats??

It lists everything including TrueHD and DTS HDMA except AAC
post #874 of 1011
Talking to Samsung rep.

Here is his reply.

[quote]
Shelley: I believe that even if the audio changes to PCM when the TV is connected, you can still go to the PS3 menu and change the audio out type to whatever you desire.
Visitor: I used to have Samsung Pedestal TV.
Visitor: and it worked fine with it too
Visitor: Worked with Sony
Visitor: worked with older samsung. but not with this damn $3000 TV.
Shelley: Yes, that is correct. This has happened with the introduction of HDMI 1.3 version that supports HDMI-CEC.
Shelley: The HDMI-CEC helps in a two way communication between the devices connected via HDMI.
Shelley: Because of this it's now possible for a compatible device to change the audio and video format according to what the TV supports.
Shelley: Because of this the PS3 changes the audio out to PCM when it detects a device (here the TV) that can't understand other type of audio than PCM.
Visitor: let me paste your reply in avsforum and see what others say.
Visitor: If what you say is true, nobody can get the bitstream to work with newer TV
Shelley: The audio source here is PS3 and it's the only place where we can change it to desired type and force it to output True HD even if it has changed the audio out type to PCM because of the TV.
Shelley: I apologize, I never said that no TV can accept bitstream.
Visitor: so you are saying that with this TV, I cannot get the bitstream to work
Visitor: is that about right?
Shelley: New Samsung TVs can't accept bitsream through HDMI and for that reason the audio on PS3 is changing.
Shelley: Yes, this TV will not accept a bitstream audio.
Visitor: so all new Samsung TVs when connected to PS3 or any BD Player, I won't get a bitstream to work..
/quote]


So, with all new HD Samsung TV, I can't get a damn bitstream to my receiver to work?

WTH...?
post #875 of 1011
I got a newer response.

"Our newer Samsung TVs DO NOT Work with HDMI Gaming device. You have to buy a BD Player to get bitstream to work."

LOL????

I asked if I can buy any BD Player, and rep says that I have to call their manufacturer to get the support.

WTF..?

Are they really that dumb? I wasted more than 2hours on tech support calls that they have no clue what the hell they are talking about..
post #876 of 1011
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post

So, with all new HD Samsung TV, I can't get a damn bitstream to my receiver to work?

WTH...?


It's probably some sort of handshake coming from the TV that won't let the signal through to even the receiver. When I use my receiver and HDMI, the TV shows "audio codec not supported" or something and the receiver plays it fine.

There should be a way around that, because otherwise HDMI is useless with that TV if you're using a surround system.
post #877 of 1011
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post

I got a newer response.

"Our newer Samsung TVs DO NOT Work with HDMI Gaming device. You have to buy a BD Player to get bitstream to work."

LOL????

I asked if I can buy any BD Player, and rep says that I have to call their manufacturer to get the support.

WTF..?

Are they really that dumb? I wasted more than 2hours on tech support calls that they have no clue what the hell they are talking about..

Can you borrow a friend's stand-alone player, or buy one somewhere you can return it after you open, and test it out?
post #878 of 1011
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

Can you borrow a friend's stand-alone player, or buy one somewhere you can return it after you open, and test it out?

I can..

But that comment is bizarre imo.

I meant "that" statement being that PS3 Slim won't be supported for any newer Samsung TVs.
post #879 of 1011
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post

I can..

But that comment is bizarre imo.

I meant "that" statement being that PS3 Slim won't be supported for any newer Samsung TVs.

The issue is your AVR. It is supposed to be blocking the TV's audio negotiation and replacing the audio part of the HDMI handshake with its audio capabilities. Have you contacted your AVR manufacture?

The Samsung rep. you chatted with doesn't seem to realize that you are running the HDMI through an TRUEHD/DTS-HD capable AVR (at least you didn't put that portion in your chat log). Yes of coarse the TV by itself can not accept a Dolby TRUEHD or DTS-HD bit-stream.
post #880 of 1011
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Originally Posted by WhatHappend View Post

The issue is your AVR. It is supposed to be blocking the TV's audio negotiation and replacing the audio part of the HDMI handshake with its audio capabilities. Have you contacted your AVR manufacture?

The Samsung rep. you chatted with doesn't seem to realize that you are running the HDMI through an TRUEHD/DTS-HD capable AVR (at least you didn't put that portion in your chat log). Yes of coarse the TV by itself can not accept a Dolby TRUEHD or DTS-HD bit-stream.

I've had 2 different Pioneer Elite receivers connected to my PS3 Slim and a 2009 Panasonic plasma TV. I have never had a problem setting the PS3 to bitstream or ever had an issue anything remotely like Toshee has...I believe he has a Pioneer Elite too...
post #881 of 1011
Toshee...

So when you actually have the problem with no audio and the AVR indicating Stereo the PS3 HDMI sound setting still indicates that 5.1 Dolby HD and/or DTS-HD is available??

If it doesn't show it you can manually select the 5.1 codecs and force the PS3 to output the lossless bitstream...

what model AVR did you have??

Also...Try disabling the TV speakers....longshot but try it...
post #882 of 1011
I thought their were issues between ps3/pioneer necessitating firmware upgrade from pioneer!
post #883 of 1011
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

I thought their were issues between ps3/pioneer necessitating firmware upgrade from pioneer!

Good point. There were some reported issues between Pioneer AVR's and the PS3 slim. However Toshee mentioned when he tried other TV's he had no issue bitstreaming to his AVR.

With that said...Toshee should double check that he has the latest PS3 FW update.
post #884 of 1011
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

I thought their were issues between ps3/pioneer necessitating firmware upgrade from pioneer!

The issue was resolved with PS3 firmware. Audio worked fine... new firmware for the PS3 came out it didn't... newer firmware came out for the PS3 and the issues was resolved.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17118389
post #885 of 1011
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Originally Posted by moodyman View Post

Toshee...

So when you actually have the problem with no audio and the AVR indicating Stereo the PS3 HDMI sound setting still indicates that 5.1 Dolby HD and/or DTS-HD is available??

If it doesn't show it you can manually select the 5.1 codecs and force the PS3 to output the lossless bitstream...

what model AVR did you have??

Also...Try disabling the TV speakers....longshot but try it...

1. Yes. PS3 says it's outputting TrueHD.
2. I had disabled the TV.
3. I have Pioneer VSX-92.
post #886 of 1011
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Originally Posted by moodyman View Post

Good point. There were some reported issues between Pioneer AVR's and the PS3 slim. However Toshee mentioned when he tried other TV's he had no issue bitstreaming to his AVR.

With that said...Toshee should double check that he has the latest PS3 FW update.

I have the latest firmware.. Well, not the one that just came out.

I used it against Samsung Pedestal TV as well as Sony XBR. I used to have older samsung for while. I upgraded to Sony, then I gave it to my parents when their TV started to mal-function and bought a new Samsung just a few days ago.
post #887 of 1011
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

The issue was resolved with PS3 firmware. Audio worked fine... new firmware for the PS3 came out it didn't... newer firmware came out for the PS3 and the issues was resolved.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17118389

definitely didn't fix mine..
post #888 of 1011
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Originally Posted by moodyman View Post

Good point. There were some reported issues between Pioneer AVR's and the PS3 slim. However Toshee mentioned when he tried other TV's he had no issue bitstreaming to his AVR.

With that said...Toshee should double check that he has the latest PS3 FW update.

might change cables, or hdcp issue between tv and avr, i guess?
post #889 of 1011
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post

definitely didn't fix mine..

Sony broke/fixed an audio issue for the newer Pioneer receivers although if I remember there were some Pioneer receivers (generation or two older?) that has to have their firmware updated (separate issue). I don't remember which models but a search should find bring up the details.
post #890 of 1011
Has anyone tried playing an M2TS file from a blu-ray disc on the PS3 and compare the picture against the blu-ray itself?

Here's what I noticed, if I copy the M2TS files from a blu-ray and play it on the PS3, the image seems darker. But if I were to burn that same file back to a blu-ray disc and play the disc, the image is back to normal. If you want a small sample test, use the 2012 BD and copy the 00428.m2ts file (a deleted/alternate ending scene) which is only 428MB and play it on the PS3. Then find the same scene directly from the disc and play it. I see a big difference in the brightness/gamma of the image.

More of a concern to me, is it just m2ts files from a commercial blu-ray that it's doing this to or does it have the same effect on all m2ts files? because I record stuff from TV using my Hauppague HD device straight to an m2ts file and I wouldn't want to be settling for an inferior picture...

Anybody?
post #891 of 1011
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post

definitely didn't fix mine..


Did you ever get your Ps3/Receiver/TV issue resolved..??
post #892 of 1011
Does anyone have problem connecting a USB external hard drive to the PS3 Slim? I tried three different USB hard drives but the PS3 does not see them. If I understand the manual correctly, once you connect s USB device, it will show up on the screen. None of the three drives I tried showed up. The PS3 has no problem connecting with a USB flash drive, however.
Is there something I'm not doing right? Please help. Thanks
post #893 of 1011
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Originally Posted by chiusheung View Post

Does anyone have problem connecting a USB external hard drive to the PS3 Slim? I tried three different USB hard drives but the PS3 does not see them. If I understand the manual correctly, once you connect s USB device, it will show up on the screen. None of the three drives I tried showed up. The PS3 has no problem connecting with a USB flash drive, however.
Is there something I'm not doing right? Please help. Thanks

A simple question to ask is, is the drive formatted FAT32 since the PS3 cannot read a NTFS formatted drive. The USB sticks are more than likely to be formatted FAT32.
post #894 of 1011
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

A simple question to ask is, is the drive formatted FAT32 since the PS3 cannot read a NTFS formatted drive. The USB sticks are more than likely to be formatted FAT32.

Thanks, Ichiu7, for your response. Yes, the three drives I tried were all NTFS formatted. I found a FAT32 drive and tried it. It worked. My utmost gratitude to you for saving my day.
post #895 of 1011
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Originally Posted by chiusheung View Post

Thanks, Ichiu7, for your response. Yes, the three drives I tried were all NTFS formatted. I found a FAT32 drive and tried it. It worked. My utmost gratitude to you for saving my day.

Remember, there is a 4gig file size limit on fat32.
post #896 of 1011
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Originally Posted by Karmyna View Post

Remember, there is a 4gig file size limit on fat32.

True enough but the size of the drive can be fairly large if you use a tool other than Windows to format it. And as it has been noted on another thread, you can easily put .m2ts files on a FAT32 drive which are larger than 4G by using multiAVCHD and encapsulating them in the AVCHD folder structure. Each file is 4G in size but on playback the PS3 chains seamlessly from file to file (just as it does on BD titles).
post #897 of 1011
While going through PS3's user's guide, I came across the subject "Renewing the AACS encryption key". It appears that I've to renew the Key from time to time for the Blu-ray disc even if I have bought and own it. (A time frame of 12 to 18 months is mentioned.) If I don't renew, I won't be able to play the disc.

Is this Encryption Key unique to the Playstation system. I've been playing Blu-ray discs on two Blu-ray Players without being even aware of the Encryption Key. Certainly the owner's manuals of these two Blu-ray players never mention anything about such a Key. Can someone please enlighten me?

Thanks.
post #898 of 1011
Here is my set up and problem with CEC.

PS3 Slim, connected to an Onkyo 705 via HDMI. 705 connected to the HDMI 1 port on my Sammy 8500. I have a Harmony 880 remote. The tv sees the PS3 when setting for CEC are turned on. Here is my problem. When the setting is "off" on the PS3, I show HDMI 1/AV Reciever in the source list on the Sammy. Turn on the CEC setting on the PS3, it adds Anynet-CEC as another active source on my Sammy. No big deal right, but when I select "watch TV" on my Harmony, the TV swaps to an inactive OTA channel after the PS3 powers down. I have to go back into the TV menu and reselect HDMI 1. I turn the CEC setting back to off on the PS3 and all is well. Any ideas.
post #899 of 1011
Stimpson, sounds like it's working correctly. Watch TV on your remote probably means 'watch HDTV OTA' not necessarily watch TV on HDMI 1. Since it's a Harmony, you can change it to do what you want.
post #900 of 1011
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Originally Posted by razel View Post

Stimpson, sounds like it's working correctly. Watch TV on your remote probably means 'watch HDTV OTA' not necessarily watch TV on HDMI 1. Since it's a Harmony, you can change it to do what you want.

Thanks for the reply. All my activities on the Harmony are set to HDMI 1 on the Sammy, and do not have the issue untill I enable CEC on the PS3.
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