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Originally Posted by philnerd View Post

Well I suppose the confirmation of the new release and its far superior quality is a nice little vindication for those of us that were banned at other forums for pointing out how incredibly awful the "Sapphire" edition was.

So to any insiders or studio representatives that may have advised me to the contrary regarding poor Blu-Ray video releases: I will NOT sit farther from my television and I will NOT drop movie watching as a hobby. However I WILL continue to complain about poor quality releases, I WILL warn other buyers and I WILL wait for a proper version before handing over my hard earned dollars.

And having said that, I'm really looking forward to the US release of this new version and will happily plunk down first week pricing to own this.

Well said! I'm sick of poorly made and unreliable products.

This is a great little story... Are there any other recent examples where enthusiasts (like the very ones at AVS) were able to make a studio remaster a shoddy transfer?

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post #2642 of 2846
I don't know how long ago it was now that I called the Paramount phone number that was originally listed for the exchange. I remember that the voice mail box was full. That same day, I sent in an email to their customer service address. Today, I got a phone call in response to that email - telling me to call a customer service line for instructions.

Go PHE!
post #2643 of 2846
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Originally Posted by AVS_MVP View Post

I just received my replacement copy today.

Mailed on August 3rd. Received it today via FedEx.

I came here to post this. I mailed it around the same time. I live in L.A so that probably contribute to the quick turnaround time.
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I mailed mine last Wednesday and got the replacement today. So the question that'll come up a thousand times:
How can I be sure I have a replacement disc?

I didn't view my old copy at all, so I am asking about any physical features that might be different on the disc itself.

EDIT: Nevermind, I saw this in the other thread for those who bought legit copies in the store:

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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

Some more concrete info:

There is no longer a white, titled security sticker on the top of the case.

The insert AND the slipcase of the new disc no longer indicates "2-Disc Set" above the Paramount logo on the lower right hand corner.

The printed side of the disc now has a smooth dark gray finish as opposed to the grainy finish found on the "Braveheart" disc.

The inner mirror ring on the recorded side has the code NA13081B1R2.

The bolded clue at the bottom clears it up; I have the same number on my inner-ring.
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Thunderbolt8,

Do the other frames around that particular frame exhibit the same artifacts? Just wondering if it's one or two frames or longer.
post #2646 of 2846
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

I mailed mine last Wednesday and got the replacement today. So the question that'll come up a thousand times:
How can I be sure I have a replacement disc?

I didn't view my old copy at all, so I am asking about any physical features that might be different on the disc itself.

EDIT: Nevermind, I saw this in the other thread for those who bought legit copies in the store:



The bolded clue at the bottom clears it up; I have the same number on my inner-ring.

Hopefully someone can help me here. I too received the (supposedly) new version. I honestly cannot tell from looking at the disc itself. I also never watched the other one so I can't compare PQ-wise. But I cannot read the # you are indicating on the inner ring. I see no number there. The disc still says Sapphire Series & Disc One. The title side is gray, but I don't have Braveheart so I can't compare the two to see if it's the same shade of gray. Is there any other way to tell? Or is there some special trick to being able to read the # on the inner ring? To me, they have sent me back the same exact disc or at least the same version.

EDIT: I was just able to make out the # & it is the same as indicated above. But is the disc still supposed to say Sapphire Series & Disc One?

Ken
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Well I guess us Canadians are screwed because of the bilingual packaging. There was never any printed " 2 disc set" above the Paramount logo (which is on the left side) on the original case. I have yet to find 2 Blurays side by side that has the slightest difference in packaging. How the hell I am supposed to know which one is the new one?

Does anybody know what to look for in the Canadian version or are we just not getting the new one? How much trouble would it have been to put a yellow UPC symbol.
post #2648 of 2846
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Originally Posted by Yosemite Dan View Post

Well I guess us Canadians are screwed because of the bilingual packaging. There was never any printed " 2 disc set" above the Paramount logo (which is on the left side) on the original case. I have yet to find 2 Blurays side by side that has the slightest difference in packaging. How the hell I am supposed to know which one is the new one?

Does anybody know what to look for in the Canadian version or are we just not getting the new one? How much trouble would it have been to put a yellow UPC symbol.

You're not the only one with this dilemma - Universal Australia haven't even negotiated to have the remaster brought into the country, so we're even further behind.

Isn't there a contact for Paramount Canada or a rep from Paramount US you can call up? That's I did down here, & got the info I was after within minutes..
post #2649 of 2846
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Originally Posted by Yosemite Dan View Post

Well I guess us Canadians are screwed because of the bilingual packaging. There was never any printed " 2 disc set" above the Paramount logo (which is on the left side) on the original case. I have yet to find 2 Blurays side by side that has the slightest difference in packaging. How the hell I am supposed to know which one is the new one?

Does anybody know what to look for in the Canadian version or are we just not getting the new one? How much trouble would it have been to put a yellow UPC symbol.

Check the code on the inner ring of disc one. I can't recall what it exactly is (I believe it may have been posted earlier in the thread). What I would do is call up Universal or email them. That's what I did, they emailed me back and asked that I call their 800 number. From there, they verified the packaging and the number on the inner ring of the disc. Once they verified the info they said told me to send it in to for replacement. Sent it in from Calgary, AB and I expect I'll get my replacement in the next couple of weeks, hopefully.

Eric
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Originally Posted by chillspace View Post

Check the code on the inner ring of disc one. I can't recall what it exactly is (I believe it may have been posted earlier in the thread). What I would do is call up Universal or email them. That's what I did, they emailed me back and asked that I call their 800 number. From there, they verified the packaging and the number on the inner ring of the disc. Once they verified the info they said told me to send it in to for replacement. Sent it in from Calgary, AB and I expect I'll get my replacement in the next couple of weeks, hopefully.

Eric

Thanx for the info but I never bought the original to begin with so I really can't check the disc. I really don't wanna go to the trouble of buying the original and then having to exchange it thru the mail.
post #2651 of 2846
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Originally Posted by Yosemite Dan View Post

Thanx for the info but I never bought the original to begin with so I really can't check the disc. I really don't wanna go to the trouble of buying the original and then having to exchange it thru the mail.

I am in the same boat, I decided to wait for a better PQ release, and am now ready to buy. Hopefully there will be a way of identifying the remastered Canadian version.
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Originally Posted by Beta Tester View Post

I am in the same boat, I decided to wait for a better PQ release, and am now ready to buy. Hopefully there will be a way of identifying the remastered Canadian version.

Just got my new disc from Paramount in the mail and it took 3 wks. Tried it for a few minutes and it looks better but overall a fairly dull looking video. That was how it was made so enjoy.
John
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Just got my new disc from Paramount in the mail and it took 3 wks. Tried it for a few minutes and it looks better but overall a fairly dull looking video. That was how it was made so enjoy.
John

I think it's important to be precise.

I gather that what you are really saying is that the movie is dull looking and the BD accurately reflects the dullness of the movie.
post #2654 of 2846
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Originally Posted by Yosemite Dan View Post

Well I guess us Canadians are screwed because of the bilingual packaging. There was never any printed " 2 disc set" above the Paramount logo (which is on the left side) on the original case. I have yet to find 2 Blurays side by side that has the slightest difference in packaging. How the hell I am supposed to know which one is the new one?

Does anybody know what to look for in the Canadian version or are we just not getting the new one? How much trouble would it have been to put a yellow UPC symbol.

I'm pretty sure they haven't received any new version yet. I guess I'll just send my previous disc to paramount (which does offer the replacement for both US *AND* Canada), and won't even bother checking at the stores anymore...
post #2655 of 2846
Received my replacement disc today!

Took 24 days - not too bad for a Canadian address.
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QUOTE=sillysam;19110798]I think it's important to be precise.

I gather that what you are really saying is that the movie is dull looking and the BD accurately reflects the dullness of the movie.[/quote]

Not sure how much better HD can do for this film. I really hoped there would be a big diff but not to my eyes. The EE and ringing is gone from the short viewing I've done but yes the original must have been dull or at least the SD was, so eye-popping it wasn't.
John
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Originally Posted by tezster View Post

Received my replacement disc today!

Took 24 days - not too bad for a Canadian address.

We must have sent it at the same time
John
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Mine took 3 weeks.....the difference between the original BD and the re-release is quite evident to me. Very happy with the new disc.....
post #2659 of 2846
Completely thrilled that I got the replacement back in 2 weeks.

I was skeptical about the pictures issues when I got to original Blu-Ray, but angered at how BAD the original release was.

Kudos to the collective voices of HD video fans and Paramount for the doing the right thing.
post #2660 of 2846
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Originally Posted by tezster View Post

Received my replacement disc today!

Took 24 days - not too bad for a Canadian address.


How did they send it? Was it via Fedex or USPS? I'm waiting for my copy to a Canadian address as well.

Eric
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Originally Posted by chillspace View Post

How did they send it? Was it via Fedex or USPS? I'm waiting for my copy to a
Canadian address as well.

Eric

I got it by Fedex here in Toronto.
John
post #2662 of 2846
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

I got it by Fedex here in Toronto.
John

Awesome, I guess I'll just wait. I only sent my disc in on August 17th, so I expect it'll be at least another couple of weeks yet. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the info.

Eric
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The replacement disc is a significant improvement. I viewed it yesterday and it finally has the kind of treatment a movie of this caliber deserves. Sharp, detailed, with rich colors and nice black levels.
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Sadly the US Remastered Disc has Problems with compression.

Here are 2 new Xylon Comparisons which clearly shows the Problem:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-...ml#post1999059 -> Posting Nr. 629
Look at the Sand especially.

Number 2:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-...ml#post1662794 ->Posting Nr. 7

Look at her face and the area in the left.

Off course the Disc is not bad.
But it shows that Bitrate is not everything. The Dutch has a much lower bitrate and is better compressed.
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Originally Posted by Swiss HD View Post

Sadly the US Remastered Disc has Problems with compression.

Here are 2 new Xylon Comparisons which clearly shows the Problem:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-...ml#post1999059 -> Posting Nr. 629
Look at the Sand especially.

while looking at that picture did you notice the guy on the far left of the picture? the one in blue jeans and white shirt standing next to a tri pod and camera....

kinda sticks out like a sore thumb....he in all of those screen grabs.
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Can't really see it. It's just odd that Crowe's sword is cut in half by the shadow.
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Originally Posted by soul embrace View Post

while looking at that picture did you notice the guy on the far left of the picture?

yes of course Funny. Didn't notice that on DVD btw.
Have attached The Picture for others to see that funny error.

Time travel is cool. I'm wondering where he parks his De Lorean
LL
post #2668 of 2846
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Originally Posted by Swiss HD View Post

yes of course Funny. Didn't notice that on DVD btw.
Have attached The Picture for others to see that funny error.

Time travel is cool. I'm wondering where he parks his De Lorean

i just went to that scene on the dvd and he is there...
post #2669 of 2846
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Originally Posted by soul embrace View Post

i just went to that scene on the dvd and he is there...

Of course he is there but i never noticed him on DVD. Perhaps because the limitation of resolution.
post #2670 of 2846
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Originally Posted by soul embrace View Post

while looking at that picture did you notice the guy on the far left of the picture? the one in blue jeans and white shirt standing next to a tri pod and camera....

kinda sticks out like a sore thumb....he in all of those screen grabs.

I hadn't noticed, but WOW does he ever stick out! I figure he was either a time-traveler or he was trying to set a new fad for clothing.
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