Mitsubishi HC6800 LCD HD Projector (30,000:1 on/off)

Where is the other new Mit. DLP HC3800 ?

If compared with panasonic pt-ae3000 or epson's 6500ub, will be the 6800 better, the same or worst?

"Images come to life with stunning color, clarity and sound quality"

This projector has a built in sound system?

Just got my HC6800 last night to replace my Barco 1208 that went out. My Barco had great 1080p, but the HC6800 is outstanding. It looks awesome out of the box. Extremely quiet too. Highly recommend it. I struggled with the choice between it and the PT-AE3000, but finally decided on this one. I am happy.

Mits will unveil the HC6800 and the HC3800 at CEDIA. The 6800's MSRP is $2,295, and the 3800's MSRP is $1,495.

The 6800 ships this month, and the 3800 ships in the third quarter.

Obviously, this thread belongs in the under $3,000 MSRP forum.

http://www.twice.com/article/339828-...ector_Pair.php

Where did you see the price on the 6800? Projectorcentral has it listed at $3,495. If it really is that low, I will have to seriously consider getting one.

Edit: Oops, missed it the first time around somehow. I see it at Twice.

wellbornd -- How did you get a Mitsubishi HC6800 already? I didn't think they were available for sale yet.

You referred to it along with the AE3000. The HC6500 is the 2009 model, as is the AE3000. The 2010 models are the AE4000 (not available for another month, at least) and the HC6800, which also should not be available for another month, or so.

Elkhunter -- I question the price as quoted in Twice (I think it's a typo). I fail to see how they can improve on the HC6500 and be able to list it's MSRP for $1000 less (the HC6500 had a MSRP of $3495).

I think that the Twice article meant $3495, not $2495. Especially in today's economy. Also, like the HC6500, the HC6800 is not available for Online sales.

As I said, I think that that MSRP was a typo, unfortunately (it should be $3495, like the HC6500 was).

Although the HC6800 has doubled it's advertised On/Off CR compared to the HC6500, it still appears to be quite a way behind the Epson 6800UB (in the advertising wars). The Epson 6800UB is advertised at "up to 200,000:1". However, based on my HC5500 experience, personally, I think that Mitsubishi is being a whole lot more truthful.

I still think I will wait another year, or two, before I upgrade (I'm enjoying my HC5500 too much).

Claus:

You're probably right about the $2,295 price being a typo.

Looks like another TWICE article, that I read yesterday, has a typo too.

In their "Sony Debuts Video At CEDIA" article, they list the VW85's MSRP as being $7,000; not $8,000, as posted in this forum. They also list the HW15's MSRP as being $2,800.

Well the HC6800 is in our system at $2499.

Please explain me why did you choose the Mitsu instead of the Pana?
I'm wondering which to buy but I can´t see them working

Thanks // LEO

I also have the HC6800 and I love it!!! I have had mine now since August 27th. I do not know what the actual price these are supposed to go for since my HT guy said he was giving me a smoking deal. I haven't had it calibrated yet but the picture out of the box is extremely good. If anyone has one also and has had it calibrated I would really appreciate it if you would share your settings.

Projector Central hopes to have their reviews of the HC6800, and the BenQ W6000 posted on Friday.

They will post comments on how they compare to one another, since both of them have MSRPs of $3,495 (TWICE listed the HC6800's MSRP as being less than this).

www.projectorcentral.com/

Claus,

Come on. Whom are you kidding about hanging on to the 5500 for couple more years?

LOL.

Too bad, it's $3,495 MSRP.

I normally do not trust these specs until a review is done by Art, not by Evan. Sure makes think interesting with all these great 1080p PJs at these prices.

It appears to be shipping in Japan http://kakaku.com/pc/projector/ma_55/

Anyone done any calibrations yet they would like to share?

dragonbud0 -- No I'm not kidding. I'm up to 1500+ hours, and I'm really enjoying my HC5500. Since I watch a lot with some ambient light in the room (and on a 106" Da-Lite High-Power screen), any extra CR is not that big a deal for me (per Art, a 2:1 CR improvement is only really obvious in a side-by-side comparison, and in a totally dark room).

I estimate that I will be needing a new lamp sometime around Dec. 2010. Hopefully, by that time we should see some "real" PJ improvements (2010 CEDIA). Being retired, I have to watch my budget, so upgrading my PJ every year just isn't "in the cards" (I don't do that anyway, unless I have to). Besides, my surround sound system needs some serious upgrading (surrounds & sub-woofer), so that's where my "mad" money will be going -- those two items will cost more than the MSRP of a HC6800.

BTW, Art posted a 9/16/09 blog (CEDIA,Part 2) where his said that he "guessed" that the HC6800 should have a MAP more in line with the actual prices of the HC6500.

leo140hd -- Except for the CIH memory function and the FI (their most useful options), the HC6500/HC6800 is a much better PJ than the AE3000, in terms of build quality (IMHO). My HC5500 is my second Mitsubishi PJ, and they are built like the proverbial "brick s***-house". Looking back on the history of the 2009 PJ models, I would still opt for the Mitsubishi HC5500/6500.

The Panny's had a lot more problems than were reported for the Mits PJs (the HC4900 loss leader excepted) -- especially if you ceiling mount the PJ (panels shifting, one air intake not filtered, etc.). Except for some of the AE3000 features, the Epson 6500UB is the CR "king-of-the-hill" in terms of PQ.

As for the new models, the AE4000 appears to be a "no-show" (at least for another 3 to 6 months). so the 3-LCD choices are the Epson 6800UB {EDIT: S/B 8500UB} and the Mitsubishi HC6800 (Under $3K category). BTW, the Viewsonic Pro8100 (at a very good price now) is getting a lot of good PR (except for one problem that some users are reporting - 10 AVS member owners). There also are a couple of good DLPs coming out too (Mitsubishi & BenQ) for under $2K.

PS -- Panasonic has been pushing their upcoming 3D capability (a new BD player & new plasma HDTV). They may be delaying the AE4000 until they can figure out how to incorporate that into their USA version of the AE4000 model (a rumor only).

cuttersky -- Art (www.projectorreviews.com) should have a review out in the not too distant future (6 to 8 weeks???). Hopefully one of the new AVS member owners will have some calibration info before then, however.

Claus,

OK. That is why I'm still working to keep up with my toys. I still have the option to change PJ before changing lamps.

As former owner of Epson and Mitsubishi, either PJ would do fine in a more competitive 1080p world.

For me, the most notable (unbelievable?) part of Projector Central's Mits HC6800 review, was their conclusion that the HC6800's PQ is similar to the Samsung A900's ($12,999), and the Vivitek H9080HD's ($14,999).

That even astute (AVSers?) consumers would be left scratching their heads, wondering what they got for their money, after paying 5x the HC6800's price.

I would think that even a J6P could tell the difference between an LCD, a DLP, and a LED-DLP.

Quote: "Moreover, if you set up any of these models against the much more expensive Samsung A900 ($12,999), or the Vivitek H9080HD ($14,999), astute consumers will be left scratching their heads wondering what you get for the extra money. The differences in picture quality are quite often subtle at best. You'd think a projector that costs five times as much would look dramatically better, but it doesn't."

http://www.projectorcentral.com/mits...tor_review.htm

The HC6800 has a street price of $2500 which is pretty awesome.

Elkhunter -- PJCs reviews have lost a lot of credibility in the last 4 years, or so. Their current "reviews" are more like "first impressions" from a "quick look" standpoint. It's almost like they are trying to do too much with too few resources, in too short a time.

dragonbud0 -- I tend to agree, although I've never owned an Epson PJ.

I've owned a Kloss (CRT PJ), Sharp, Panasonic, Toshiba, and 2 Mitsubishi PJs (including my present HC5500), in that order. Of those, the Toshiba was a nice PJ, but it's problems and poor support left a really bad impression. The rest were good, with the Mitsubishi's being the best quality for the price. My other Mits was a low resolution HC3 (960 x 540) bought as a cheap backup when my Tosh died after ~3 months use.

Unless a disaster happens, I'm going to wait, at least, until the 2011 PJs get announced, released, and wrung out by other AVS members.

Best Buy has it for that price'Plus tax'at my local store.What is weird is if you order it online from BB you still have to pay tax'But they do offer 18months no intrest payments.PC reviews sounds like the 6800 is a killer fp for this price.Anyone get one yet.

You never want to order anything from BB on line. You can get better prices in the stores (plus they will price match in the store). For the "Diamond" model Mitsubishi PJs, the BB online price is MSRP per the factory requirements.

Because BB has stores in most states, they have to charge sales tax for their online orders (that's a legal requirement).

Thanks ct;Well that puts the price of the 6800 up to about $2700.I went with the Epson 6100 now that it's price has drop to 1500'That way I can upgrade again in 2 years.

Without talking price, the hc6500 was available for a lot less.....I can't see how the hc6800 could be much more.

That was my understanding too. Art (Projector Reviews) has a paragraph on the HC6800, in his "CEDIA 2009 Projectors - Part 2" blog.

BB has in in stock.with tax it is the same price as the sony hw15