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post #991 of 1117
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Originally Posted by rsmclay View Post

Everyone,

I have the ability to buy a HC6800 demo projector for $1K. It has about 400 hours on the bulb. They tell me it is the original bulb.

They fired the unit up and it looks beautiful. It has been ceiling mounted the whole time, so it is blemish free.

Is this a good deal? Would you buy a demo unit, at $1K, to get this projector?

Does it have full warranty? If no warranty, then no deal for me.

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post #992 of 1117
I am not sure. I know they stated that I could get their warranty, which would cover a bulb later as well. I can check tomorrow.

If it has the full manufacturers warranty, which I would think it does, but like you stated I would want to make sure, would you say that is a good deal? Could I find it online, for not much more than that. I haven't been able to find it for much cheaper than $1800.

So obviously, no warranty, not worth it. But if there is a warranty, is that a good deal/steal?
post #993 of 1117
Anyone else like to chime in? I would like to head to the store in the early afternoon to talk with the guy a bit more - asking about warranty, etc...

Any advice would be much appreciated - including quetions I should ask. This will be my first PJ purchase.

Also, when he fires it up, what is the dead give away if there are dust blobs? Is this a problem with this unit? For the reviews this thing seems to get, $1K seemed like a good deal.

Thanks everyone!!
post #994 of 1117
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Originally Posted by rsmclay View Post

I am not sure. I know they stated that I could get their warranty, which would cover a bulb later as well. I can check tomorrow.

If it has the full manufacturers warranty, which I would think it does, but like you stated I would want to make sure, would you say that is a good deal? Could I find it online, for not much more than that. I haven't been able to find it for much cheaper than $1800.

So obviously, no warranty, not worth it. But if there is a warranty, is that a good deal/steal?

Mits says it would not honor warranty if purchased online...its on the mitsubishi presentations website.......
post #995 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

Mits says it would not honor warranty if purchased online...its on the mitsubishi presentations website.......

Lots of Authorized Mitsubishi dealers sell online including AVS. I don't think there's a problem unless you buy from a non-authorized seller.
post #996 of 1117
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Originally Posted by rsmclay View Post

I am not sure. I know they stated that I could get their warranty, which would cover a bulb later as well. I can check tomorrow.

If it has the full manufacturers warranty, which I would think it does, but like you stated I would want to make sure, would you say that is a good deal? Could I find it online, for not much more than that. I haven't been able to find it for much cheaper than $1800.

So obviously, no warranty, not worth it. But if there is a warranty, is that a good deal/steal?

If it has full manufacturers warranty or an equivocal store warranty, then I would think that it would be worth 1k with 400 hours. I would not pay any more for it though. As for items to check:

Look at a grid system and check panel alignment. The more red, blue and green that you see at the edges of the grid lines, the worse the alignment is. Check the corners and see if the image is consistent to the corners. Also check for pincushion. Make sure that the lamp has plenty of brightness, since the 6800 is a fairly bright projector, it should still have a lot of lumens with only 400 hours on the lamp.
post #997 of 1117
I have a 6800 with a Panny Blue Ray Player DMP-BD80 and a Toshiba HD-D3 HD DVD Player. I have been trying on having the 6800 due the upscaling when playing regular DVDs but have not being able...I tried setting the Panny resolution manually to 480p (by setting HDMI resolution manuallly) and then have the 6800 due to upscaling but it does not appear to be working. Tried similarly with the HD D3 but the 6800 output appears to be just 480p...

Is there a way to do this? What I am doing wrong?
post #998 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post
I have a 6800 with a Panny Blue Ray Player DMP-BD80 and a Toshiba HD-D3 HD DVD Player. I have been trying on having the 6800 due the upscaling when playing regular DVDs but have not being able...I tried setting the Panny resolution manually to 480p (by setting HDMI resolution manuallly) and then have the 6800 due to upscaling but it does not appear to be working. Tried similarly with the HD D3 but the 6800 output appears to be just 480p...

Is there a way to do this? What I am doing wrong?
The output of the HC6800 is 1080P It will always be 1080P. Since it is a fixed pixel display, 1080P is the only output that it can do. You can set the output on the BD player and HD DVD player to 480P so that is what the HC6800 will receive, if your AVR does not do any processing.
post #999 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mjg100 View Post
The output of the HC6800 is 1080P It will always be 1080P. Since it is a fixed pixel display, 1080P is the only output that it can do. You can set the output on the BD player and HD DVD player to 480P so that is what the HC6800 will receive, if your AVR does not do any processing.
That's what I thought...However, the letters in the menu are bigger than when watching 1080p blue ray material, so I thought it was output as 480p. When I let the Panny HDMI resolution in auto...you see the difference..the letters are smaller, as when in 1080p or auto mode....

It got me wondering whats happening....
post #1000 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post
That's what I thought...However, the letters in the menu are bigger than when watching 1080p blue ray material, so I thought it was output as 480p. When I let the Panny HDMI resolution in auto...you see the difference..the letters are smaller, as when in 1080p or auto mode....

It got me wondering whats happening....
It is a scaling issue, but it is still 1080P.
post #1001 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mjg100 View Post
If it has full manufacturers warranty or an equivocal store warranty, then I would think that it would be worth 1k with 400 hours. I would not pay any more for it though. As for items to check:

Look at a grid system and check panel alignment. The more red, blue and green that you see at the edges of the grid lines, the worse the alignment is. Check the corners and see if the image is consistent to the corners. Also check for pincushion. Make sure that the lamp has plenty of brightness, since the 6800 is a fairly bright projector, it should still have a lot of lumens with only 400 hours on the lamp.
mjg100,

I did pick up the projector. They gave me a 4 year store warranty, in which they stated includes a free bulb when I need it, and also would cover dust blobs - where they will try and get it cleaned and if not then will replace with an equivalent projector.

I have 30 days to decide, with no restocking fee of any kind. I will set up the projector and make sure the alignment, etc... are good to go. Thanks for the advice.
post #1002 of 1117
Now that I have the projector, I need to read the rest of this thread. I think I read that there were some suggested settings, etc...

What is the general consensus for a screen for this?
post #1003 of 1117
Congratulations...and welcome to the 6800 users.....

I have a very inexpensive Elite Silverframe, now discontinued. I have seen it on the web for lower $200's. Elite makes fairly inexpensive screens.

I have heard that Carada makes pretty good screens, in the range of $600 to $700 for a 100 in diag......

There are some reviews at projectorreviews.com

Good luck with your setup....
post #1004 of 1117
I was able to talk the manager down to sell me HC6800 at $599.00 then I went to another store for a second unit and could not get him down to same price, but for $799.00 its still a good deal. Over two hundred hours on one and five hundred on the other. They don't do a price match on store display models the second manager said.

May be you guy's can negotiate a better price then $999.00 with this copy of the receipt.
LL
post #1005 of 1117
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Originally Posted by Reneamaya View Post

I was able to talk the manager down to sell me HC6800 at $599.00 then I went to another store for a second unit and could not get him down to same price, but for $799.00 its still a good deal. Over two hundred hours on one and five hundred on the other. They don't do a price match on store display models the second manager said.

May be you guy's can negotiate a better price then $999.00 with this copy of the receipt.

You got a great deal!!!
post #1006 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I have a 6800 with a Panny Blue Ray Player DMP-BD80 and a Toshiba HD-D3 HD DVD Player. I have been trying on having the 6800 due the upscaling when playing regular DVDs but have not being able...I tried setting the Panny resolution manually to 480p (by setting HDMI resolution manuallly) and then have the 6800 due to upscaling but it does not appear to be working. Tried similarly with the HD D3 but the 6800 output appears to be just 480p...

Is there a way to do this? What I am doing wrong?

I have the BD80 and a mits, you're best off upscalling to 1080p if you want the panny to do it, 1080i if you want the mits to do it.
post #1007 of 1117
Question for my fellow HC6800 owners: Ever noticed any flashing horizontal lines on the image? Very hard to explain... The first time I notice them is when turning the projector on. Even the manual eludes to this, although I'm not sure it's the same thing: "After the POWER button is pressed, the image may flicker before the lamp becomes stable. This is not a product malfunction" They kind of look like that.

What I see is what appear to be lines that very quickly flash across the image. This happens randomly/intermittently and does not seem to be tied to any particular type of image. The lines themselves appear to be dark/black and flash across the image very quickly, but noticeably (to me, anyway.) This happens with different sources.

The lamp is in LOW lamp mode, tried messing with the Auto Iris settings to no avail. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
post #1008 of 1117
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Originally Posted by pintozack View Post

Question for my fellow HC6800 owners: Ever noticed any flashing horizontal lines on the image? Very hard to explain... The first time I notice them is when turning the projector on. Even the manual eludes to this, although I'm not sure it's the same thing: "After the POWER button is pressed, the image may flicker before the lamp becomes stable. This is not a product malfunction" They kind of look like that.

What I see is what appear to be lines that very quickly flash across the image. This happens randomly/intermittently and does not seem to be tied to any particular type of image. The lines themselves appear to be dark/black and flash across the image very quickly, but noticeably (to me, anyway.) This happens with different sources.

The lamp is in LOW lamp mode, tried messing with the Auto Iris settings to no avail. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

The projector should not be doing that. Could it be loosing HDMI sync and then be getting it back? How do you have the HDMI cable/cables to the projector? In other words, how many and what size? Also are there any HDMI outlets in the signal chain?
post #1009 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mjg100 View Post

Could it be loosing HDMI sync and then be getting it back? How do you have the HDMI cable/cables to the projector?

This is an area I've gone round and round with... I actually have a thread on the HDMI section about my setup. What I have today is:

Components (PS3, XBox, DVD, etc) --- 3-6' HDMI cables --- Onkyo TX-SR608 AVR --- 50' HDMI --- Mits HC6800 Projector

I used to have faceplates, HDMI keystones, and many other things I tried before I got rid of them all. Now I just have the 50' run from the AVR to the projector direct; it's got some slack and does not pull on the ports. I used to have handshake and dropout problems, but now it seems much happier (especially once I turned off deep color.) The connections between components are 3-6' 24 AWG, the 50' is 22AWG, all Monoprice.

Do you think HDMI limits could still be the problem here (like mini-dropouts)? I had asked in the other thread -- think HDMI over Cat6 would help?

Many thanks!!!
post #1010 of 1117
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Originally Posted by pintozack View Post

This is an area I've gone round and round with... I actually have a thread on the HDMI section about my setup. What I have today is:

Components (PS3, XBox, DVD, etc) --- 3-6' HDMI cables --- Onkyo TX-SR608 AVR --- 50' HDMI --- Mits HC6800 Projector

I used to have faceplates, HDMI keystones, and many other things I tried before I got rid of them all. Now I just have the 50' run from the AVR to the projector direct; it's got some slack and does not pull on the ports. I used to have handshake and dropout problems, but now it seems much happier (especially once I turned off deep color.) The connections between components are 3-6' 24 AWG, the 50' is 22AWG, all Monoprice.

Do you think HDMI limits could still be the problem here (like mini-dropouts)? I had asked in the other thread -- think HDMI over Cat6 would help?

Many thanks!!!

Yes, I am pretty sure that you are losing sync and then regaining it. To test, try a short cable directly to the projector. Don't worry about going through the AVR if that helps with the temporary set up. Set the PS3 or Xbox on a step ladder if needed (ceiling mounted projector). If this solves your problem, then you know what to fix. One of the cat6 HDMI solutions should take care of you.
post #1011 of 1117
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Originally Posted by mjg100 View Post

Yes, I am pretty sure that you are losing sync and then regaining it. To test, try a short cable directly to the projector.

Been meaning to try this test, so I'll do it and report back. I think I should also try PS3 direct to projector via the 50' to see the results; reason is, I'd like to rule out the AVR. It notoriously drops frames with 24 fps material, so I've disabled the video processor. So I'm hopeful the AVR is not the issue.

Question, though: if I was losing sync to the projector, wouldn't I lose the entire image and not just see flashes on an otherwise okay image? Thanks again.
post #1012 of 1117
pintozack -- You are not the only one that is having problems interfacing an Onkyo AVR with a PJ. Other AVS members report problems with their Onkyo AVR model and various PJ brands. Bypassing your AVR should verify, or rule out, your AVR as the cause.

Your problem seems to be more of a momentary video dropout, rather than a HDMI handshake issue. A HDMI issue should result in a freezing or loss of the entire image.
post #1013 of 1117
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Originally Posted by pintozack View Post

Been meaning to try this test, so I'll do it and report back. I think I should also try PS3 direct to projector via the 50' to see the results; reason is, I'd like to rule out the AVR. It notoriously drops frames with 24 fps material, so I've disabled the video processor. So I'm hopeful the AVR is not the issue.

Question, though: if I was losing sync to the projector, wouldn't I lose the entire image and not just see flashes on an otherwise okay image? Thanks again.

If the 50' cable works going direct from PS3 to projector, then that would point out that the problem is the AVR. But it is possible that the PS3 can't push a signal that far, but an AVR could. If the PS3 works using a short cable directly to the projector, then add the AVR to the loop, but also use a short HDMI cable. If it all works with the short cables, then you know the problem is due to the length of your cables.

After reading CT's post, I would do a search on your AVR and see if anybody has reported the same problem, but I would do the tests that I suggested first. Is the drop out, a complete loss of signal?
post #1014 of 1117
Well was going to jump on the 6800 ship but with the new model coming out replacing it i was a little unsure of that option..

So i will be dating the 9000d (not dd,,,he he) for the Next unit,
get it friday and atleast this gets me into the mits family..

Cant wait
post #1015 of 1117
Hello
Got my projector a couple months ago and notice the pixels out of alignment. On white images like the "no signal" box, I can see green pixels on top and red on the bottom. Is this something I can fix myself?

thanks
jason
post #1016 of 1117
Is any one using a scaler like a Dvdo vp50 or lumagen with their hc6800?
post #1017 of 1117
Hi guys, also having issue sizing vert / horz. My screen size is 96"x54". @ 160" from screen. Any suggestions?
post #1018 of 1117
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Originally Posted by echo419 View Post

Hello
Got my projector a couple months ago and notice the pixels out of alignment. On white images like the "no signal" box, I can see green pixels on top and red on the bottom. Is this something I can fix myself?

thanks
jason

It seems like your LCD panels have slipped out of alignment. If so, you can't fix it; you'll have to contact Mits support for help.
post #1019 of 1117
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Originally Posted by ProjectorNerd View Post

It seems like your LCD panels have slipped out of alignment. If so, you can't fix it; you'll have to contact Mits support for help.

Is this very common with the PJ?
post #1020 of 1117
Thanks guys for your feedback got it replaced by mitsu.

Another Question: Are any of you using a scaler like a DVDO Vp50 with their HC6800??

Thanks again
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