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post #31 of 192
Well I pulled the trigger on a refurbished model from fleabay...it has the same warranty from the factory...so that should be ok...is that one year, right? Couldn't find further information. But I'll hook this baby up with my HK 3490 stereo amp so it should be ok...(fingers crossed).
post #32 of 192
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Originally Posted by natchie View Post

Well I pulled the trigger on a refurbished model from fleabay...it has the same warranty from the factory...so that should be ok...is that one year, right? Couldn't find further information. But I'll hook this baby up with my HK 3490 stereo amp so it should be ok...(fingers crossed).

It has a one year warranty from H/K. I think you will be very happy
with it. For $150 I don't see how you could go wrong.
I am very pleased with mine. Do you have a TV you can hook it up to?
Very helpful to navigate the menu once you get your cd's loaded
into it.
post #33 of 192
Is there any reason to believe that this device will make mp3s or .wav files sound better than the WD TV HD Media Player if both are connected to my receiver via HDMI? What about as compared to a HTPC via HDMI? I already own a WD TV HD Media Player and a HTPC and my decision to purchase this device would be much easier if I knew it would produce a higher quality sound from digital audio file playback. Thanks.
post #34 of 192
The ebay deal is looking too good to pass up. I have a multiroom/multichannel audio framework installed, but nothing really driving it (baby monitor doesn't count)

One, HUGE question I'm surprised no one has asked, and isn't apparent (to me at least) from h/k's website. How does it handle (or does it handle) transferring an EXISTING mp3 library into the unit? Does it work well, sort out album artwork, etc?

I'm assuming it's possible to move in data by dumping it onto a small external drive and connecting it to the unit, but documentation about importation of the data left a lot to be desired. Does it work? Well? Easily?

Who, exactly has no existing digital audio archive in 2009 (or 2008 or 2007, for that matter? I did this project, ripping all my CDs - at least four years ago, and I don't want to do it again.

Info would be greatly appreciated.
post #35 of 192
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Originally Posted by mcdannej View Post

The ebay deal is looking too good to pass up. I have a multiroom/multichannel audio framework installed, but nothing really driving it (baby monitor doesn't count)

One, HUGE question I'm surprised no one has asked, and isn't apparent (to me at least) from h/k's website. How does it handle (or does it handle) transferring an EXISTING mp3 library into the unit? Does it work well, sort out album artwork, etc?

I'm assuming it's possible to move in data by dumping it onto a small external drive and connecting it to the unit, but documentation about importation of the data left a lot to be desired. Does it work? Well? Easily?

Who, exactly has no existing digital audio archive in 2009 (or 2008 or 2007, for that matter? I did this project, ripping all my CDs - at least four years ago, and I don't want to do it again.

Info would be greatly appreciated.


For $150 for a refurbished unit, I suggest that you are wasting time.

With regard to not wanting to rip again, that doesn't make any sense.

This unit both rips to the HDD and within 5 seconds starts playing back the music from the hard drive.

IMHO ripping CD music has never been easier.

Cheers
post #36 of 192
FYI,

h/k customer support got back to me and confirmed it does load previously ripped libraries and will pull cover art embedded in mp3s. No idea how well it works, of course.

But, for me, alas, a moot point. Missed the refurb units by 30 minutes or so. If anyone bought an extra and wants to sell me one for a modest premium, pm me. Hope the units work out for all of you, post your thoughts for those of us waiting for the next chance to snag one.
post #37 of 192
YES THERE is way to get gapless, a little work but , you image the disc on your pc in a .wav file so it is one continuous file, then burn in nero, what you have is a cd with one track , so you can't access each track. I done that with the LOVE cd , one large wav. 1hr 18min track. then insert in player rip to drive.
post #38 of 192
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Originally Posted by mcdannej View Post

FYI,

h/k customer support got back to me and confirmed it does load previously ripped libraries and will pull cover art embedded in mp3s. No idea how well it works, of course.

But, for me, alas, a moot point. Missed the refurb units by 30 minutes or so. If anyone bought an extra and wants to sell me one for a modest premium, pm me. Hope the units work out for all of you, post your thoughts for those of us waiting for the next chance to snag one.

that might explain why I haven't gotten any more information, even though my paypal went through...does this mean it has gotten lost in the process...when I bought it, it showed 10 units left...I might be in the same boat as you...but just don't know it yet.
post #39 of 192
Thread Starter 
The Artec 8.5" TV from Walmart arrived and it is a disaster - highly NOT recommended. In fact I see Walmart seems to have already dropped it from their site. Worst part is the resolution is not 720x480 as originally listed but 480x234, the same as all the 7" portables out there.

I might go with a 19" LCD if I get one on sale; otherwise I will just let it go.
post #40 of 192
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Originally Posted by dsmith901 View Post

The Artec 8.5" TV from Walmart arrived and it is a disaster - highly NOT recommended. In fact I see Walmart seems to have already dropped it from their site. Worst part is the resolution is not 720x480 as originally listed but 480x234, the same as all the 7" portables out there.

I might go with a 19" LCD if I get one on sale; otherwise I will just let it go.


From my recent casual observation of small high def (HD, min of 720p) TV's at my local Costco, I've seen one (14" at 720p?) moderately priced that might suit your interest/needs. Next time I'm out there I'll write the name down and the local price and post it here.

Meaning that I do not think that you have to go as large as a 19" inch flat screen.

My suggestion is to keep trying smaller HD flat screen TV's with local companies that have a good return policy.

Cheers
post #41 of 192
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by OtherSongs View Post

From my recent casual observation of small high def (HD, min of 720p) TV's at my local Costco, I've seen one (14" at 720p?) moderately priced that might suit your interest/needs. Next time I'm out there I'll write the name down and the local price and post it here.

Meaning that I do not think that you have to go as large as a 19" inch flat screen.

My suggestion is to keep trying smaller HD flat screen TV's with local companies that have a good return policy.

Cheers


Target has the 10" Haier HLT10 with 800 x 480 resolution and I think I might try that before moving up to a 15" ~1200 x 760 model. But the Haier is battery powered and I would like to have that for blackouts.
post #42 of 192
Have you looked at this model? 800 x 480 with USB that would consume only USB out from DMC-1000. One model has touchscreen ability which would be pretty cool if you could get it to work.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1386...9/02/mimo.html
post #43 of 192
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by maxfli View Post

Have you looked at this model? 800 x 480 with USB that would consume only USB out from DMC-1000. One model has touchscreen ability which would be pretty cool if you could get it to work.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1386...9/02/mimo.html

Because many higher resolution digital picture/video displays have USB inputs (but no analog video inputs) I asked John Rico at H/K about using the USB connector or the RS232 ports for that purpose, and here is my question and his reply:

3. Can either the USB or RS232 ports be used to interface with a touchscreen remote/display?

RS232 port is only compatible with Audio Access WHEN systems

USB port, From the owner's manual, mentioned many times: Do not connect computers, keyboards, MP3 players, pointing devices or other peripheral products here.


Now comments on the 10" Haier HLT10 portable TV: It is a nice little display, really just a bigger and higher resolution version of the 7" model I tried earlier. It has the flat black rubberized finish that I liked, plus it moves the input connectors to the left side, which works better for me. Unfortunately it also has that multiple AV input that takes audio and video in one connector and they provide a small breakout cable to input audio and video from another source. I had to get a small female to female RCA adapter from RS so I could use my longer RCA coax cable, and that worked fine.

As a battery powered TV I thought the Haier was pretty good, though it only picked up 4 local OTA signals using the small telescoping antenna - a better antenna is a must here. PQ is pretty good, comparable to a small CRT analog set of simlar resolution, though not as bright and contrast not as good. It comes with a removable tabletop stand and also has a convenient fold-out stand in the back. Viewing angle is critical, as you PQ suffers greatly more than a few degrees off axis either vertically or horizontally, but it swivels vertically several degrees on the tabletop stand, so that should not be a problem. It does have minimal resolution to read the OSD from the DMC1000 so it will work for that purpose. Text is still blurrier than I would like from a digital display but I think some of the problem is the composite video output quality from the DMC1000. Even on my 42" ED plasma the OSD is not as sharp as it should be. H/K messed up by making the text too small, which is also part of the problem. If the Haier had HDMI input it would be perfect (maybe the next model?) and the same is true of the 7" model, which really is the ideal size. But while the Haier will do the trick and doesn't take up much space on my side table, the more I think about it the more I am not sure if it is worth the money just to use with the DMC1000. I tend to pick an album and play it through, so the TV doesn't have to remain on, and of course I can create a play list or que and listen with the TV turned off. I do like the fact it could be used as a TV in a blackout, and if I keep it that will be the main reason. I bought it at Target as they were the only local vendor, but it is cheaper of course on the net - Amazon has the best price - $149 plus free shipping.
post #44 of 192
I connected to the RS-232 port using a terminal program (115kbaud). When the DMC-1000 is powered on it sends a message "welcome to QNX neutrino" and reports the TCP/IP address. Then it stops transmitting, and does not appear to respond to any keyboard commands.
post #45 of 192
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Originally Posted by manerac View Post

I connected to the RS-232 port using a terminal program (115kbaud). When the DMC-1000 is powered on it sends a message "welcome to QNX neutrino" and reports the TCP/IP address. Then it stops transmitting, and does not appear to respond to any keyboard commands.

dmc -1000 os
QNX4.x 3rd partition
(QNX is a POSIX (Portable Operating System Interface for Unix)-certified, microkernel, distributed, fault-tolerant Operating System for the 386 and later, including support for the 386EX in embedded applications.)
post #46 of 192
According to the harmankardon FAQ page for the DMC-1000 you CAN NOT
upgrade/replace the unit's hard drive! If you wish to use an additional HDD
it must be thru the USB.

I WAS able to change hdd in one of my units with a wd 250gb hdd, it took about 20 min to copy software to drive. All tracks where there also, another great find was if you swap out drive to another machine, it does not format ie, you do not lose any tracks ........IF someone has xtra 500gb hdd to send/lend me to try to see if you can upgrade it to larger drive the way I did it please IM me... thanks.I will post pic of inside of unit running with wdd hdd.....also I found that the unit rips and burns cd's in a track at once mode, meaning there will a gap 2secs between them, just the way you would if you to copy cd's in your pc in that mode, if you make cd's in your pc with disc at once you will not have the gap, in cd's like dark side of the moon, beatles LOVE cd and others.
LL
post #47 of 192
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mickinct View Post

According to the harmankardon FAQ page for the DMC-1000 you CAN NOT
upgrade/replace the unit's hard drive! If you wish to use an additional HDD
it must be thru the USB.

I WAS able to change hdd in one of my units with a wd 250gb hdd, it took about 20 min to copy software to drive. All tracks where there also, another great find was if you swap out drive to another machine, it does not format ie, you do not lose any tracks ........IF someone has xtra 500gb hdd to send/lend me to try to see if you can upgrade it to larger drive the way I did it please IM me... thanks.I will post pic of inside of unit running with wdd hdd.....also I found that the unit rips and burns cd's in a track at once mode, meaning there will a gap 2secs between them, just the way you would if you to copy cd's in your pc in that mode, if you make cd's in your pc with disc at once you will not have the gap, in cd's like dark side of the moon, beatles LOVE cd and others.

I recorded all my CDs (so far) using the lossless WAV format and the gap between tracks is exactly the same as when I played the actual CD, which is fine with me.
post #48 of 192
... or maybe my taste in music is particularly non-mainstream (OK, I'm willing to believe that).

I'm finding a lot of my CDs are not being picked up by the DMC1000 -- and it is a *royal* pain to try to enter them using the remote. With my HP de100c, I could plug a keyboard in to the unit and enter titles by typing -- much easier!

Is there a way to use a keyboard for album/title info on the DMC1000? I've tried plugging a USB keyboard in, but it doesn't seem to recognize it.

(I am connected to the internet; the DMC is correctly picking up album covers (which I believe only happens when online) when it does find albums. But there are lots it's not finding at all.)
post #49 of 192
I recorded all my CDs (so far) using the lossless WAV format and the gap between tracks is exactly the same as when I played the actual CD, which is fine with me.
__________________ dsmith........what I mean is cd's that blend one track into the other will rip to hdd in a track at once,so there will gaps present, when playing the cd's stated is very annoying to listen to .
post #50 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

... or maybe my taste in music is particularly non-mainstream (OK, I'm willing to believe that).

I'm finding a lot of my CDs are not being picked up by the DMC1000 -- and it is a *royal* pain to try to enter them using the remote. With my HP de100c, I could plug a keyboard in to the unit and enter titles by typing -- much easier!

Is there a way to use a keyboard for album/title info on the DMC1000? I've tried plugging a USB keyboard in, but it doesn't seem to recognize it.

(I am connected to the internet; the DMC is correctly picking up album covers (which I believe only happens when online) when it does find albums. But there are lots it's not finding at all.)

Have you done the software upgrade? I was having the same problem as you,but when I did the upgrade gracenote performance was noticeably
improved.
post #51 of 192
If you record, say, 10 CD's on the DMC 1000, and you want to save 1 track per CD, can you delete all other tracks from the HDD so you end up with 10 tracks and with only that much memory used?
post #52 of 192
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Originally Posted by Blake51 View Post

If you record, say, 10 CD's on the DMC 1000, and you want to save 1 track per CD, can you delete all other tracks from the HDD so you end up with 10 tracks and with only that much memory used?

Yes you can. I have 3 or 4 CD's that I did that. It is kind of a
pain to do because you have to record the whole CD.
post #53 of 192
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View Post

Yes you can. I have 3 or 4 CD's that I did that. It is kind of a
pain to do because you have to record the whole CD.

Remember that you could also rip from your CD onto a computer, then transfer to the DMC by USB drive or memory stick.
post #54 of 192
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View Post

Have you done the software upgrade? I was having the same problem as you,but when I did the upgrade gracenote performance was noticeably
improved.

Indeed it is better after the upgrade!

They sure could have spent a bit more time on the code for this thing, though. On the other system I'm familiar with, if you ripped something and didn't have access to the track/title info, it would show up as unknown as with the DMC -- but if you later got connectivity and re-inserted the CD, it would just change the existing labels to the correct ones. The DMC re-rips, so you now have a properly-labeled CD, and still have the unknown artist/unknown title CD. Ugh.
post #55 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

.........They sure could have spent a bit more time on the code for this thing, though. On the other system I'm familiar with, if you ripped something and didn't have access to the track/title info, it would show up as unknown as with the DMC -- but if you later got connectivity and re-inserted the CD, it would just change the existing labels to the correct ones. The DMC re-rips, so you now have a properly-labeled CD, and still have the unknown artist/unknown title CD. Ugh.

Can't you erase the version of the CD that has no information 1 track at a time. I'm wondering if you write "Ugh" because it is tedious process or because it can't be done.

Edit: SelfGovern, thanks for the clarification below.
post #56 of 192
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Originally Posted by Blake51 View Post

Can't you erase the version of the CD that has no information 1 track at a time. I'm wondering if you write "Ugh" because it is tedious process or because it can't be done.

You can erase an entire CD if you choose, or erase a track at a time.

My "Ugh" was a combination of having ripped about 25 unidentified CDs,
and knowing that it could be done so much better for the user. Why
should I have to re-rip those CDs, then go find which one it was to do
the delete? In a reasonable world, the DMC would just add info to
the already ripped CD.

Similarly -- I'm not positive, but I seem to recall that if it did grab the
gracenote info without the album cover photo before (that is, with the
original software version), it re-rips the CD when you re-insert it,
instead of just getting the cover art. Oh, well.

I'm not just grousing -- I like lots of things about this system... I just
wish they'd put a bit more effort into the UI!
post #57 of 192
Anyone have ideas as to why there is a pci slot? I've seen what I beleive to be a usb header on the board. Wonder if this could be used to had more usb ports? Also the ram? its a 256 stick of ram. Would the unit benifit from more ram?
post #58 of 192
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Originally Posted by MCEFreak View Post

Anyone have ideas as to why there is a pci slot? I've seen what I believe to be a usb header on the board. Wonder if this could be used to had more usb ports? Also the ram? its a 256 stick of ram. Would the unit benifit from more ram?

RAM is cheap; it couldn't hurt to try. Can you tell exactly what the specs are on the installed RAM? Something like, "DDR2 PC6400"? Is there only one RAM slot? Have you gotten a glimpse at the CPU to see what it is?

I'd guess you could add USB ports off that header since the USB drivers are already configured in the kernel. Add a couple of TB-plus drives, then, for the World's Largest Digitized CD Collection. I wonder if there are limitations in the database that would cause a problem if it got too large? (I think I saw that the HP de100c could fall over if you had more than 10,000 songs in one genre, for instance)
post #59 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

RAM is cheap; it couldn't hurt to try. Can you tell exactly what the specs are on the installed RAM? Something like, "DDR2 PC6400"? Is there only one RAM slot? Have you gotten a glimpse at the CPU to see what it is?

I'd guess you could add USB ports off that header since the USB drivers are already configured in the kernel. Add a couple of TB-plus drives, then, for the World's Largest Digitized CD Collection. I wonder if there are limitations in the database that would cause a problem if it got too large? (I think I saw that the HP de100c could fall over if you had more than 10,000 songs in one genre, for instance)

the ram is a viking pc-3200 256 stick see my earlier post with pic of inside case .... and newly installed wd 250gb hdd
post #60 of 192
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Originally Posted by mickinct View Post

the ram is a viking pc-3200 256 stick see my earlier post with pic of inside case .... and newly installed wd 250gb hdd

Your eyes are better than mine if you can see the RAM specs in that photo

It does look like it's only a single DIMM slot?

I don't know if additional RAM will actually help -- I notice that the rip speed goes way up if I select "record only" instead of "record and play" in the options. Now, if the rip speed is going up because the processor isn't burdened by having two things to do at once, more RAM might help. But the loudness (from the CD drive spinning) also goes way up -- so if H/K designed this unit to "rip and play" slower to keep the noise down, more RAM probably won't do a thing.

You'd also mentioned that there was a spare slot on the motherboard. It's going to be hard to get that to do anything, since the kernel is pre-compiled... Linux/Unix systems are different than Windows systems; if a certain functionality isn't compiled in to the OS kernel, you won't be able to do any kind of plug-and-play discovery. Therefore my guess is, we'd have to find out if there was a specific expansion card that they'd planned to allow for, and if so, only that particular card (or others in that specific family) would work.

I'd sure like to be able to mount a 500GB disk internally; at 600MB per CD (approx., lossless Wav) that would hold 800 CDs, and have most of mine covered.
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