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post #61 of 192
The Rip vs Rip and Play speed of the CD drive is probably hard drive\\buss dependent. They probably can't move data in (copy to HD) and out (play) and convert to MP3 (out to processor and then back to HD) at the same time at the same rate the CD can send a straight copy. Adding play shouldn't tax RAM that much. ...just my guess!
post #62 of 192
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Originally Posted by setter View Post

The Rip vs Rip and Play speed of the CD drive is probably hard drive\\buss dependent. They probably can't move data in (copy to HD) and out (play) and convert to MP3 (out to processor and then back to HD) at the same time at the same rate the CD can send a straight copy. Adding play shouldn't tax RAM that much. ...just my guess!

You're right; I don't think that the difference is either RAM- or CPU-related. I think H/K did it that way so that the system is quieter when you're playing a CD. Sorry if I wasn't clear on this.
post #63 of 192
Thread Starter 
A request to all DMC1000 users: I am engaged in ongoing communications with H/K tech support and to my question regarding fan noise when playing DVDs they said the unit must be defective - but I don't think so. It would help if all DMC1000 users would check and confirm whether fan noise from their unit is excessive (similar to CD loading) when just playing a DVD. Thanks.
post #64 of 192
dsmith901: A standard definition DVD plays at the slower speed on mine and the fan never starts. The fan appears to be heat sensitive starting only when a certain temperature is reached. It looks like you'll be getting a replacement. Have fun hacking on it before you send it back!!
post #65 of 192
I hear an increase in noise over the at-rest noise... but I think it's just the disk spinning, even when I hit the 'stop' key.
post #66 of 192
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by setter View Post

dsmith901: A standard definition DVD plays at the slower speed on mine and the fan never starts. The fan appears to be heat sensitive starting only when a certain temperature is reached. It looks like you'll be getting a replacement. Have fun hacking on it before you send it back!!

Thanks for the replies so far. Since I will never use it to play DVDs I have no plans to go through the hassle of a fix, unless something else needs repair.

Anybody else hear this problem other than me and OtherSongs?
post #67 of 192
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Originally Posted by setter View Post

A standard definition DVD plays at the slower speed on mine and the fan never starts. The fan appears to be heat sensitive starting only when a certain temperature is reached. It looks like you'll be getting a replacement. Have fun hacking on it before you send it back!!


The fan runs *all* the time.

The only way to stop the fan is to completely cut power to the unit.

What I hear with my unit is that the fan has 3 speeds: low, medium, and high.

When the rear on/off switch is turned from off to on, the unit starts up at high fan speed for a few seconds, which is noticeably noisy.

After the 1st 5 seconds, the unit then quiets down to low speed. Low speed is very quiet.

When I play a DVD movie is when the fan runs at medium speed, which is more noisy than the low speed but still quiet enough for the sound that most movies put out.

Cheers
post #68 of 192
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Originally Posted by dsmith901 View Post

Thanks for the replies so far. Since I will never use it to play DVDs I have no plans to go through the hassle of a fix, unless something else needs repair.


Agreed. Like you I never plan to play DVD movies on this unit.

I take it that the fan on your unit only runs at low and high speed?

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Originally Posted by dsmith901 View Post

Anybody else hear this problem other than me and OtherSongs?


I think my unit is functioning normally. The fan has 3 speeds: low, medium, and high.

You might consider using the rear on/off switch to completely cut A/C power when you're not using the unit. That's what I do.

How one turns off the unit seems to have some potential for problems, and what I now do is a three step: 1st I press the remote off button once which puts the unit into "server mode" wait maybe 5 seconds then press the remote off button again which puts the unit into "sleep mode"

Even in sleep mode the fan runs.

Again I wait 5 to 10 seconds and then reach to the rear of the unit and flip the on/off switch to off.

Cheers
post #69 of 192
Okay, Over 800 CDs ripped.

Album "X" has the incorrect/messed-up cover art.


Do I really have to:

-page through the album track by track pressing "find info".

-If the correct cover art is found, Select that art; At which point the machine separates the track out as new album (?).

-Delete album "X", which is now incomplete because of the missing track. Then delete the new "album" which is the single track used to download the correct cover art.

-Re-rip album "X'. Then "Edit Info" of album "X"... PAGING THROUGH 1600+ ALBUM COVERS (WHY does the machine show each cover TWICE; turning an 800 CD collection into 1600 button presses?) because the machine only scrolls from front to back (1st cover entered to last). The machine does not have the ability to scroll from first to last by scrolling to the left instead of the right? I mean come on...

Please tell me I'm doing something wrong, and it is not this stupid/difficult.


More basic questions:

- Is gracenote the only way to find/edit cover art? If the info/art is incorrect are there any other online options? Please describe in detail.

- WHY does the machine show each downloaded cover TWICE (when in EDIT MODE- NOT Normal Play mode)? Is there a way to delete all of the redundant duplications? Although paging through 800+ CDs sucks, its much better than 1600.

- Is there a way to fast/quick page through album art to get to last cover entered quickly?
post #70 of 192
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Originally Posted by JD View Post


- WHY does the machine show each downloaded cover TWICE? Is there a way to delete all of the redundant duplications? Although paging through 800+ CDs sucks, its much better than 1600.

I think it's a problem on your end -- even *this post I'm replying to* is showing up twice, in two different DMC-1000 forums! What are the odds of *that*?

Doesn't happen with mine; I see covers only once (except for two-CD sets).
post #71 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

...Doesn't happen with mine; I see covers only once (except for two-CD sets).

Perhaps we're referring to two different things; I'm talking about EDITING the covers.

When VIEWING the covers (to select an album for play) there is one cover per album unless, as you stated, it is a double album.

When you select an album -> EDIT INFO -> and select the Cover/Art = a side-scrolling list of all cover art- listed from 1st downloaded to last; Each cover is shown twice. To add insult to injury, there is no way that I know of to get to the end of the CD cover art list without paging through ALL of them (2 redundant covers each for every CD). This is what my original post was regarding. Sorry if I was unclear.
post #72 of 192
HELLO DM FANs, there are 2 fans in the dmc 1000,the other is in the back blowing over the power supply, see my thread 46 the inside of my unit with new western dig hdd, I WAS able to put in.
post #73 of 192
I have been using my projector through Component out to display the Library, DVDs, etc, but was looking to switch to a smaller TV or monitor for displaying album/song info during playback.

So, I purchased a 20" Samsung PC monitor ($158 at Frys) with a DVI input and hooked up the DMC-1000 with HDMI out through a DVI adapter into the Samsung monitor.

When I tried to switch the videoi display in the setup to HDMI and 720p, it won't take. It keeps flipping back to Analog and 480i. Has anyone tried and had this work? Is it possible that the monitor won't accept 720p? I've used other Samsung PC monitors hooked up to DirecTV H20 receivers in 720p with no issues.
post #74 of 192
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Originally Posted by JD View Post

Perhaps we're referring to two different things; I'm talking about EDITING the covers.

When VIEWING the covers (to select an album for play) there is one cover per album unless, as you stated, it is a double album.

Ah, you're right. Some of my albums do show double covers this way. I have no idea why, or what caused it.

I sure would have loved to have been a beta tester on this unit, giving input into the features, function, and UI!
post #75 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

Ah, you're right. Some of my albums do show double covers this way. I have no idea why, or what caused it...

Only some, not all? Wow, every single one of mine are doubles.

So no one has any suggestions/tips regarding the editing procedures and/or the questions I posted in Response #69?

Am I missing something...? Is there no better way?
post #76 of 192
I purchased a refurb unit and got it in a couple of days ago. Have been ripping cds here at work as I go along, 40 each the last two days. Late yesterday I noticed it was loading much slower for the last ten, and aslo noticed the fan was not coming on as it had been. I had also noticed in this thread that someone had suggested leaving the unit on so the processing could "catch up".

I had left the unit in sleep mode the first night and left it in server mode last night.

It is ripping very slowly (10+ minutes) today again and the fan is not coming on. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.

John
post #77 of 192
Set up my refurbished model and came to realize that there was only one audio input, through the old fashioned RCA plugs. Anyway, now I'm scratching my head in trying to figure out how to get the audio out from my computer playing internet radio station via spdif to my Yamaha receiver. There is no plain analog audio out from Yamaha 663...it has to go through different audio out by sources, not computer, which is connected through the front Video Auxiliary (to use the digital spdif). Any suggestion on how to best record internet radio?
post #78 of 192
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Originally Posted by 54boots View Post

I purchased a refurb unit and got it in a couple of days ago. Have been ripping cds here at work as I go along, 40 each the last two days. Late yesterday I noticed it was loading much slower for the last ten, and aslo noticed the fan was not coming on as it had been. I had also noticed in this thread that someone had suggested leaving the unit on so the processing could "catch up".

I had left the unit in sleep mode the first night and left it in server mode last night.

It is ripping very slowly (10+ minutes) today again and the fan is not coming on. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.

John


Hi, I'm probably the person you are referring to in your above post.

With regard to "catching up", are you compressing to MP3 or leaving the CDs as .WAV?

If compressing to MP3, I left mine full ON (not SLEEP or SERVER mode) with the VIDEO OFF and FRONT DISPLAY dimmed to off (both functions use buttons on remote).

It took many days to compress to MP3, you can monitor by pressing SETUP and looking at available HD space; it will continue to increase as it compresses and deletes the original .WAV files. I would rip 50-75 CDs and leave it sit ON 24/7 to allow it to "catch up". When the HD stopped showing an increase in available space, I would rip another 50-75 CDs.

Good luck; Hope this Helps - JD
post #79 of 192
Thanks for the shout. I turned it off down to the rear switch and back on again, it has been ok since. Except for one cd that was severely gouged, it ran to 31% and then just sat there. I removed it and shut it down again just to be safe.

Ripping to wav, I only have about 400 cds, I think, am counting as I go through this pile.

John
post #80 of 192
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Originally Posted by JD View Post

So no one has any suggestions/tips regarding the editing procedures and/or the questions I posted in Response #69?

Am I missing something...? Is there no better way?

I found it easier to delete the original and re-rip the CD. No fuss, no muss.

Now, I've got some albums that have incorrect (or inconsistent) information in Gracenote -- if someone could tell me how to edit that with a real keyboard....
post #81 of 192
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by OtherSongs View Post

You might consider using the rear on/off switch to completely cut A/C power when you're not using the unit. That's what I do.


Cheers

The ONLY time the fan was an issue was when I tried playing a DVD and the fan was as loud as when I ripped a CD, which I thought was strange. And while I didn't let it play too long it did not quiet down for at least five minutes. This was after the firmware upgrade, btw. As far as I can tell the fan is off when the unit is in sleep mode and is virtually inaudible when playing previously recorded music. As I said, since I will never use it to watch DVDs I am not too concerned. For music, which is what I bought it for, it is just fine.
post #82 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

I found it easier to delete the original and re-rip the CD. No fuss, no muss...

That's what I do... See procedure below:


POST #69:


Album "X" has the incorrect/messed-up cover art.


Do I really have to:

-page through the album track by track pressing "find info".

-If the correct cover art is found, Select that art; At which point the machine separates the track out as new album (?).

-Delete album "X", which is now incomplete because of the missing track. Then delete the new "album" which is the single track used to download the correct cover art.

-Re-rip album "X". Then "Edit Info" of album "X"... PAGING THROUGH 1600+ ALBUM COVERS (WHY does the machine show each cover TWICE; turning an 800 CD collection into 1600 button presses?) because the machine only scrolls from front to back (1st cover entered to last). The machine does not have the ability to scroll from first to last by scrolling to the left instead of the right? I mean come on...

Please tell me I'm doing something wrong, and it is not this stupid/difficult.


More basic questions:

- Is gracenote the only way to find/edit cover art? If the info/art is incorrect are there any other online options? Please describe in detail.

- WHY does the machine show each downloaded cover TWICE (when in EDIT MODE- NOT Normal Play mode)? Is there a way to delete all of the redundant duplications? Although paging through 800+ CDs sucks, its much better than 1600.

- Is there a way to fast/quick page through album art to get to last cover entered quickly?
post #83 of 192
I guess I'm missing something, or your system is acting differently (Think different!) than mine.

Say I've got an album I ripped when I didn't have a connection to Gracenote, so it was ripped without cover art. Now I've got a working connection.

I put the CD in and let 'er rip. Let 'er rip the *whole* album. When it's done, I have two entries for that album: One with the cover art, one without, but otherwise identical. I do a 'view albums' (from the 'now playing' menu? whichever one is the top menu item)(I suppose you could also view by artist, but I'm not at home where I can verify now), can easily identify which is which (one has a blue note picture, one has the cover art), and so I select and delete the album with the default cover art, leaving the album with the correct cover art.

There's no track-by-track, no searching through 800 or 1600 cover art icons.

By the way, at least for the 'view by artist' and 'view by album', holding the appropriate (that is, the 'down' or 'up') button down starts an accelerated scroll after a second or two. Perhaps you can do the same to scroll faster through the covers.
post #84 of 192
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Originally Posted by SelfGovern View Post

I guess I'm missing something, or your system is acting differently (Think different!) than mine.

Say I've got an album I ripped when I didn't have a connection to Gracenote, so it was ripped without cover art. Now I've got a working connection...


There's the difference right there; I am talking about coverart for a CD which is non-recognized, or incorrect downloaded directly whilst connected to gracenote.


Let's use the CD "Band On The Run" as an example (this is an actual example of a CD which I had to go through the process below [now referred to as process #69]).

-placed the CD in drive to rip while connected to gracenote.

-gracenote found title/tracks/art info... Cover art is messed-up/incorrect.

-This is where you have to go track by track: track #1- "Band On The Run"- 'Find Info'; track #2- "Jet"- 'Find Info'; track #3- "Bluebird"- 'Find Info'; etc, etc... to look for the the correct artwork.

- IF you find it (BIG IF...) which I did find the correct art/cover for "Band On The Run" by using the 'Find Info.' for the TRACK "Band On The Run" then...

Back to post [process] #69...

-Select the correct art; At which point the machine separates the TRACK "Band On The Run" out as new album.

-Delete "Band On The Run" album, which is now incomplete because of the missing track. Then delete the new "album" which is the single track used to download the correct cover art.

-Re-rip "Band On The Run" CD. Then "Edit Info" of the "Band On The Run" album and SELECT the large picture of the COVERART (on the left of the "Find Info" screen)... PAGE THROUGH 1600+ ALBUM COVERS because it puts the newly found album art at the very end of the list. The machine also shows each downloaded cover TWICE; turning an 800 CD collection into 1600 button presses because the machine only scrolls from front to back (1st cover entered to last). The machine does not have the ability to scroll from first to last by scrolling to the left instead of the right. THE MACHINE ALSO DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO FAST/ACCELERATED -SCROLL IN THIS MODE.

Try it with a CD which has downloaded the incorrect coverart try to follow my steps above.
post #85 of 192
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Originally Posted by dsmith901 View Post

The ONLY time the fan was an issue was when I tried playing a DVD and the fan was as loud as when I ripped a CD, which I thought was strange. And while I didn't let it play too long it did not quiet down for at least five minutes. This was after the firmware upgrade, btw. As far as I can tell the fan is off when the unit is in sleep mode and is virtually inaudible when playing previously recorded music. As I said, since I will never use it to watch DVDs I am not too concerned. For music, which is what I bought it for, it is just fine.


If you have your unit in a tight space (which I don't), that may be why your unit only seems to have two fan speeds, i.e. low and high.

i.e. due to a tight enclosure it would operate at higher temperature all of the time.

Also a few others that have opened up their units (which I still haven't) have mentioned that the unit has two fans.

So when I mention "fan" in this post, it is a reference to the fan that you can see at the rear of the unit next to the on/off switch.

FWIW, turns out out that this fan sometimes does stop even when the unit is in one of the 3 "on" modes so long as it's not doing anything.

The 3 "on" modes are: either fully on, or server mode, or sleep mode.

FWIW#2, I turned my unit on (via rear on/off switch) two hours ago and after it got through it's boot process (takes maybe a minute), I put it into sleep mode.

Just walked to the rear of the unit, and a flashlight shows that that fan is turning even though the unit probably isn't doing anything.

Cheers
post #86 of 192
Does this thing not have a random playback feature? If it does, I can't seem to find it. If it does not, then they missed the boat on the most basic feature of any music storage/playback system.
post #87 of 192
I guess all the deals for this are done? Amazon had refurbs going for $150 for a while, but that expired.

Has anybody compared this to the squeezbox duet? As far as sound quality.
post #88 of 192
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Originally Posted by scutfargas View Post

Does this thing not have a random playback feature? If it does, I can't seem to find it. If it does not, then they missed the boat on the most basic feature of any music storage/playback system.

On the left side of the remote control about half-way down
is the "Play Mode" button. Use this to access the random play
function.
post #89 of 192
Looks like I'm running out of memory, have loaded 385 or so cds and am down to 19.5Mb left. I still have about 70 left to load. I will start culling tracks and maybe some full cds that are not choice, but I need to get more storage going. I see stand-alone 2-3-500Mb are less than $100.00, but I am not sure how to use those as additional storage or as backup with this machine.

I'm not very savvy on these things so bear with me on these questions:
1) can I use a 3-500Mb portable hard drive through USB to transfer some .wav files from the DMC 1000?
2) Will the DMC still recognize those transferred files as in the media library for access?

Thanks for any help on this, John.
post #90 of 192
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 54boots View Post

Looks like I'm running out of memory, have loaded 385 or so cds and am down to 19.5Mb left. I still have about 70 left to load. I will start culling tracks and maybe some full cds that are not choice, but I need to get more storage going. I see stand-alone 2-3-500Mb are less than $100.00, but I am not sure how to use those as additional storage or as backup with this machine.

I'm not very savvy on these things so bear with me on these questions:
1) can I use a 3-500Mb portable hard drive through USB to transfer some .wav files from the DMC 1000?
2) Will the DMC still recognize those transferred files as in the media library for access?

Thanks for any help on this, John.

Yes - read the manual for how to do this. I think you can also just record new CDs directly to an external HD also, which may be easier, though I have yet to attempt this. The manual says the external HDD should be no more than 250 GB but a guy at H/K tech support said they have successfully tested HDDs up to 500 GB, so go for the bigger capacity.
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