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post #241 of 440
Mike - Nice find on jamcast, think I'll try that out tonight.

So I'm currently scouring the interweb for the extended IR code list for this model so I can use the discrete power and input codes when I program my JP1 remote. There are plenty of them out there for other models (I'm gonna try with the 1900/3900 list if I don't find anything). Anyone else interested in this? Have you found extended IR codes for the 1065 or 2065?
post #242 of 440
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Originally Posted by NOAMattD View Post

So I'm currently scouring the interweb for the extended IR code list for this model so I can use the discrete power and input codes when I program my JP1 remote. There are plenty of them out there for other models (I'm gonna try with the 1900/3900 list if I don't find anything). Anyone else interested in this? Have you found extended IR codes for the 1065 or 2065?

The service manual contains a list of codes the remote control sends, and the "RS-232C standard command specification" contains a list of operation commands and extended operation commands that are apparently based on IR remote control codes.
post #243 of 440
Well I got the service manual, there are some tidbits in there for the IR codes but not everything I was looking for, like discrete power on / power off and inputs for the USB / Net Radio etc. Didn't see anything about RS232 commands. I will keep looking.

So I'm finally hooking stuff up in earnest and already have a problem - I'm not getting any sound from my DVD's optical out on AV1 - I'm only getting video.

I can get around it by plugging the optical cable into AV4's optical in (that gives me sound) then setting the video source for AV4 to AV1

Obviously, this is really ass backwards - I should just be able to put audio and video on AV1 and have it work. Is there something I'm not setting in the receiver or do I have a broken optical input? I guess I'll have to call Yamaha tonight or tomorrow, but if this thing's broken it's going back to Amazon :P
post #244 of 440
Is this 2065 really better than the Denon 2311 ?
post #245 of 440
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Originally Posted by NOAMattD View Post

Well I got the service manual, there are some tidbits in there for the IR codes but not everything I was looking for, like discrete power on / power off and inputs for the USB / Net Radio etc. Didn't see anything about RS232 commands. I will keep looking.

The following might be the discrete power codes you're looking for. The RS-232C document doesn't mention infrared control but AFAICT they look like yamaha IR codes.

7A1D All Zone Power On
7A1E Standby
7E7E Main Zone Power On
7E7F Standby
7EBA Zone2 Power On
7EBB Standby
7AED Zone3 Power On
7AEE STANDBY

I couldn't find any that directly select each of of the 3 USB/NET/PC inputs - (which is certainly possible in the network protocol).

And I don't remember where I found those serial protocol docs...
post #246 of 440
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

Is this 2065 really better than the Denon 2311 ?

That's a leading question isn't it? Shouldn't the question be more like, "How would you compare the Denon 2311 and the 2065?"

You do the comparison, and let us know.
post #247 of 440
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Originally Posted by spturtle View Post

The following might be the discrete power codes you're looking for. The RS-232C document doesn't mention infrared control but AFAICT they look like yamaha IR codes.

I think you may be looking at the RS-232 doc for older models. Starting with the 3900 the RS-232 protocol changed completely, and I think the 2065 uses the new one. I don't have IR codes for the 2065, but for older models the IR codes are generally the same as for RS-232, but that's not necessarily true in all cases. Hopefully the IR codes didn't change for the 2065, so older docs for the IR codes will still work.
post #248 of 440
I have a Philips CD changer which I'd like to control with the yamaha remote control. The manual doesn't list any CD player device codes except 1 for yamaha. I tried all Philips DVD player codes but none of them worked. The "learning" feature of the remote does not work either with the CD player remote. Any ideas?
post #249 of 440
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Originally Posted by spturtle View Post

I have a Philips CD changer which I'd like to control with the yamaha remote control. The manual doesn't list any CD player device codes except 1 for yamaha. I tried all Philips DVD player codes but none of them worked. The "learning" feature of the remote does not work either with the CD player remote. Any ideas?

Let me qualify first by saying I have a 2600 that is 3 years old. But I am sure Yamaha has not changed it's ways. Is the CD changer older or newer than the 2065? I have Directv STB's that are newer than my Yamaha unit. When I could find no codes that worked I called Yamaha CS. The CSR told me that If there were no codes that worked, it would not work and that the code library was not upgradable.

Another thing, make sure it is really a Phillips. Sometimes it carries the nameplate but is made by someone else. This means trying other MFTR codes that may also work even though there is a Phillips list.

Dominic
post #250 of 440
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Originally Posted by Dominic26 View Post

Let me qualify first by saying I have a 2600 that is 3 years old. But I am sure Yamaha has not changed it's ways. Is the CD changer older or newer than the 2065? I have Directv STB's that are newer than my Yamaha unit. When I could find no codes that worked I called Yamaha CS. The CSR told me that If there were no codes that worked, it would not work and that the code library was not upgradable.

Another thing, make sure it is really a Phillips. Sometimes it carries the nameplate but is made by someone else. This means trying other MFTR codes that may also work even though there is a Phillips list.

The CD player is much older. As I said there's only 1 CD player device code in the RX-V2065 manual so trying DVD player codes was already a long shot and there are no other codes to try. I probably have the opposite problem from what you describe: my CD changer is just too old.

My previous receiver is a Marantz from the time this brand was owned by Philips so its non-universal remote control works with my Philips CD player and VCR. Maybe the CD remote uses RC-5 (instead of RC-6) and the new Yamaha remote doesn't support this "old" IR protocol?.

Anyway, I found the IR codes for the RX-V1065 so I'll check how well my phone works as an IR remote using lirc. I would prefer a dedicated universal remote but it looks like I would need to buy one.
post #251 of 440
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Originally Posted by spturtle View Post

The CD player is much older. As I said there's only 1 CD player device code in the RX-V2065 manual so trying DVD player codes was already a long shot and there are no other codes to try. I probably have the opposite problem from what you describe: my CD changer is just too old.

My2600 does work my RCA CD player (~1996). There may still be hope.
post #252 of 440
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

If I were you I'd wait to see what the 1067 and 2067 look like, as they should be announced fairly soon (maybe in the next month?)

Does anyone know when the new 2067 will be released?

I checked Yamaha's website for press releases and there's nothing there for it's higher end receivers.

I'm guessing that the new release will continue to drive down the price of the 2065???
post #253 of 440
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Originally Posted by richardnva View Post

Does anyone know when the new 2067 will be released?

I checked Yamaha's website for press releases and there's nothing there for it's higher end receivers.

I'm guessing that the new release will continue to drive down the price of the 2065???

Fair assumption, but they may be scarce by then. Newegg just sold out of the 2065 -- permanently.
post #254 of 440
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Originally Posted by bustamelon View Post

Fair assumption, but they may be scarce by then. Newegg just sold out of the 2065 -- permanently.

Good to know. I guess I better not wait too long. Thanks!
post #255 of 440
Oh and as for when the 2067 comes out -- no official word but folks are saying August/Sept sometime. They are starting to pop up on Euro/Oceania sites.

Finally, some news on the 1067, 2067 & 3067: click me
post #256 of 440
Well I got my remote all set up and things are working swimmingly but I still can't get audio from the optical out on my DVD/VCR combo to play on AV1, only AV4. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Is the optical port just bad?
post #257 of 440
I decided to check with Yamaha Support once again to see what if anything is being done about the FM reception problem. I was told that the engineers are still trying to come up with a solution, but nothing as yet and no ETA. I was told to keep checking the website for updates. If anything does change, I'll keep everyone informed.

Personally, I'm about to look for a replacement receiver. There were a few reasons I bought this particular one in the first place:
(1) HD radio (which won't work well until the general radio reception problem is fixed).
(2) Rhapsody interface -- which works, but is awkward with the on-screen key entry for search and it's inability to save searches so that you can go back and edit them if you don't quite get it right or simply redo them if you want.
(3) It's size - small enough to fit in my cabinet.

I'm an avid radio listener, so have been very disappointed by the FM reception. Other than this, the overall quality is great and I'd be happy with my choice.
post #258 of 440
I got my 2065 hooked up on Wednesday. Everything went pretty smoothly (more detail including price below), but I've got one problem I can't seem to solve: I can't get my HTPC output to both my main zone and Zone 2.

My main zone is connected to my Windows HTPC with HDMI and I use HDMI out to my Sony television. Right now, I'm just using the TV speakers for the main zone, but I'll go to 5.1 eventually. Zone 2 is connected to the speakers on my patio.

Zone 2 works great with one big exception: I can't listen to the same source as the television (i.e. the HTPC). If I use the Input knob to set the source for Zone 2, HDMI1 is not a choice. The choices (going from memory) are Audio1, Audio2, AV5, AV6, USB, Tuner and all the other 'soft' choices like NET RADIO, PC, ....

How do I get the audio from my HDMI1 port to go to Zone 2?

I've tried everything I could think of, but nothing seems to work. FYI, I do have HDMI control set to TV + Amplifier.

The Sony has nice audio out jacks, but they don't seem to output anything unless I go into the TV menus and turn off the TV speakers.

The Windows PC seems unable to drive two different playback devices at once. I have the HDMI cable set as Default Device. I can get test sounds out of other connected devices, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to make Windows Media Center send any sound to anything but the Default Device.


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FYI, I paid $650 at Amazon. I saw it at Fry's for $699. The next day, the Amazon price had risen to $699 also. The last time I looked, the Amazon price had gone up to $719.

Other than the problem above, the only unpleasant surprise so far has been the FM reception. Yes, I read all the reviews here complaining about it. But it's even worse than they made it sound. I'm in the SF bay area with a direct view of Sutro tower. Even so, I have a huge antenna in my attic. When connected to the HTPC, I get literally dozens of channels. The 2065 is able to pick up exactly two - and one of them gets a lot of static.

The internet radio works great, though - but it requires a lot of button pressing to change channels when a commercial comes on.
post #259 of 440
Thread Starter 
Zone 2 is probably analog only. You could see if you could make both analog and digital connections from your pc.
post #260 of 440
I don't think Zone 2 is analog only since I can play Internet Radio on it.

The problem with also setting up an analog connection from the PC is that Windows 7 doesn't seem to send sound to two different connectors at the same time. I have to go into the sound device menu and change the output device to get sound to come out of a different connection. I don't want to have to do that every time I turn on and off Zone 2.
post #261 of 440
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Originally Posted by BillyDude View Post

I don't think Zone 2 is analog only since I can play Internet Radio on it.

The USB/NET/PC input has its own stereo DAC and is connected as an analog input (meaning in normal operation for the main zone the digital audio from this input is converted to analog, then back to digital, sent through the DSP, and finally to analog again to get amplified). So yes, zone2 and zone3 cannot play from S/PDIF or HDMI inputs.

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The problem with also setting up an analog connection from the PC is that Windows 7 doesn't seem to send sound to two different connectors at the same time. I have to go into the sound device menu and change the output device to get sound to come out of a different connection. I don't want to have to do that every time I turn on and off Zone 2.

Do you actually want to play the same music(?) in main zone and zone 2? That feature is called "party mode" but unfortunately not available on the 2065. Maybe you can stream the sound from the PC to the amp over the network? A better fix would be to somehow get windows to do what you need e.g. with something like virtual audio cable.

If you do not need such a party mode: some music players (including windows media player) apparently allow you to set a different audio output than the default.
post #262 of 440
I just got my 2065 today and am in the process of switching over to the new receiver. I'd appreciate some guidance on connecting my PS/3. I run all my components into my receiver and then have a single HDMI home run into my Plasma for video, and then out to my 5.1 speakers for audio. On my previous setup I used both HDMI out for video, and optical out for audio. It looks like I should run the HDMI out into the first HDMI input jack designated for BD/DVD, but where's the best place for my optical input? AV1? Will I have to manually assign the AV1 audio input to match my HDMI 1 for video? Is this right? Thanks.
post #263 of 440
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Originally Posted by spturtle View Post

Do you actually want to play the same music(?) in main zone and zone 2? That feature is called "party mode" but unfortunately not available on the 2065. Maybe you can stream the sound from the PC to the amp over the network? A better fix would be to somehow get windows to do what you need e.g. with something like virtual audio cable.

If you do not need such a party mode: some music players (including windows media player) apparently allow you to set a different audio output than the default.

Yes, "party mode" sounds like exactly what I'm trying to do. I'll check out the virtual audio cable.

I had one other idea I haven't tried yet: since I'm only using the TV speakers in the main zone for now, maybe I could bridge from the front speakers to zone 2. Then, when I want party mode, I could make sure zone 2 is turned off (so that no other output goes there) and HDMI control is set to "TV + amplifier".

What do you think of that?
post #264 of 440
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Originally Posted by richardnva View Post

I just got my 2065 today and am in the process of switching over to the new receiver. I'd appreciate some guidance on connecting my PS/3. I run all my components into my receiver and then have a single HDMI home run into my Plasma for video, and then out to my 5.1 speakers for audio. On my previous setup I used both HDMI out for video, and optical out for audio. It looks like I should run the HDMI out into the first HDMI input jack designated for BD/DVD, but where's the best place for my optical input? AV1? Will I have to manually assign the AV1 audio input to match my HDMI 1 for video? Is this right? Thanks.

I have mine hooked up with just the HDMI cable to my 2065 and works great. I did have an HDMI cable for audio and component for video (projector limitation) but was not getting 1080p as the video was over analogue. You might also have some issues if you're running an optical out cable from the PS3 to the receiver; HD-audio (ie. DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD) formats use HDMI 1.3 for bandwidth purposes. Toslink or Coaxial SPDIF can not transmit a full DTS-HD HR signal.

Syncing AV1 audio with HDMI video was not possible, at least I never had any luck.

I've had my receiver for about 9 months with no issues, great receiver for music and movies.
post #265 of 440
So I just got one of these last night to replace an Onkyo TX-SR605 and I have a problem I CANT figure out. I have a mac mini that I use as a HTPC and I have it hooked up to this receiver via hdmi but I use optical out of the mac mini to get the 5.1. Is there anyway to sync an hdmi video input and a optical audio input? I cant find it anywhere. Please help me, I'm so frustrated!
post #266 of 440
Never mind! In the manual addendum I downloaded it explains it. Thanks anyway.
post #267 of 440
Is it possible to remap the Scene buttons on the front of the receiver? I have my PS3 connected to HDMI 1 so that works well. But I connected my DVR to HDMI 4 instead of HDMI 2 for TV. Is it possible to remap these? I went through the on screen menu and couldn't find an option to do so...
post #268 of 440
Does someone have connected LCD SONY with RX-V2065 (AV1,AV4) using optic cable?
I have two important problems with this amplifier which I described in post 122on page 5 ... especially problem 1 & 2.
I would be grateful if owner LCD SONY could check this in his configuration.
post #269 of 440
re: remap scene buttons

Just hold down the button for a few seconds after you get the settings the way you want them, Input, audio mode, etc.
post #270 of 440
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Originally Posted by sirius98 View Post

Does someone have connected LCD SONY with RX-V2065 (AV1,AV4) using optic cable?
I have two important problems with this amplifier which I described in post 122on page 5 ... especially problem 1 & 2.

I have the same issue as you describe as problem 1. No sony TV here and I do not use an optical cable. But with the coaxial S/PDIF ports, whenever an audio stream ends (PC or CD player), a loud tick can be heard, like a sudden voltage spike or drop I guess. In pure direct mode there is still a noise but not nearly as loud.

Check on http://www.yamaha-service.de/ for RX-V2065 downloads, there is a document called "Pop Noise During Source Device Operation" - maybe this describes the problem? The description doesn't say if it's about S/PDIF but I suppose the problem being in a "clock rectifier IC" implies this. The document says the chip must be replaced with a new version. Models covered are RX-V1065, RX-V2065, RX-V3900, and RX-Z7.
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