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post #31 of 91
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Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

When people talk about screen size I wish they would get used to noting if it's diagonal or width so I won't have to guess. Such a small screen if it's diagonal, no wonder the projectors look bright. Thank you for your review anirbana.

Sorry if I missed that but going by standards we use diagonal size and the screen was 86 inch diagnolan as clarified by Sony today.

The image brightness on the HW15 with IRIS off was similar to IRIS 45 on my IN81. So it was less brighter compared to my IN81 (1400 ANSI)

The VW85 was simiar to around IRIS 27 to 36 on my IN81.

If that helps to some extent.
post #32 of 91
I am very jealous that manufacturers give our English friends these advance looks at the latest equipment in intimate settings.

I have an office directly across the street from Sony's American HQ in NYC. How about it Sony? I am sure we could scare up a good group of people in Manhattan to come see.
post #33 of 91
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Originally Posted by anirbana View Post

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Questions
Is the HW15 using the same panels/light engine from the VW70/80
It uses the same panel as the HW10. No change in panel contrast.
Will this projector have a CMS system at all? or you stuck like some lower models with only two color adjustments? i know a full CMS at 3000 or less is a dream.
No CMS for HW15 unfortunately.


HW10 and HW15 are using the same panels, but there is difference in the light engine. As for CMS, both HW15 and VW85 have the same (lousy) RCP system.
As for information regarding these models, almost everything is confidential until 2sep.
post #34 of 91
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Originally Posted by anbjornk View Post

HW10 and HW15 are using the same panels, but there is difference in the light engine. As for CMS, both HW15 and VW85 have the same (lousy) RCP system.
As for information regarding these models, almost everything is confidential until 2sep.

Do you happen to know whether VW80 and VW85 are also using the same panels? Also do you know whether the reportedly increased contrast (30k:1 -> 60:1) from HW10 to HW15 is due to the different light engine or due to a more agressive iris?

Thanks!
post #35 of 91
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Originally Posted by madshi View Post

Do you happen to know whether VW80 and VW85 are also using the same panels? Also do you know whether the reportedly increased contrast (30k:1 -> 60:1) from HW10 to HW15 is due to the different light engine or due to a more agressive iris?

Thanks!

I really can't tell much due to the NDA on the information, but I believe the panels are the same, and that the increased contrast comes from other changes within the light engine.

After 2'nd september there will be much more information
post #36 of 91
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Originally Posted by anbjornk View Post

...I believe the panels are the same, and that the increased contrast comes from other changes within the light engine...

Well the >2x native CR achieved by last year's LCDs IIRC was due to more effective clean up polarization in the light engine .
post #37 of 91
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Originally Posted by anirbana View Post

Sorry if I missed that but going by standards we use diagonal size and the screen was 86 inch diagnolan as clarified by Sony today.

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Originally Posted by anbjornk View Post

I really can't tell much due to the NDA

I'm surprised that wasn't part of the NDA out of shame! Wow, 86"! That's a pathetically small screen for a projector of any type.
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post #39 of 91
Thanks for the link Eric'Quite interesting.Both look like great fp's.And the Hw15 seems like everyone like it allmost as much as the 85.Good prices also.
post #40 of 91
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Somewhere on the palnet it is already Sept 2, NDAs are null and void.
post #41 of 91
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Originally Posted by HoustonHoyaFan View Post

Somewhere on the palnet it is already Sept 2, NDAs are null and void.

The Sony Europe press conference at IFA is only about 10 hours away (5 pm Wednesday in Germany, or 11 am Eastern Time in the US) according to the IFA schedule here:

http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/w...ates/index.jsp

So, if nobody spills the beans before then hopefully we will get some info from the press conference.

--Darin
post #42 of 91
First in depth test up!

In Norwegian unfortunately but Anbjørn was really impressed and compare it to his HD750 in sevral aspects. Native and Ansi contrast have made a huge leap.

http://avforum.no/forum/dybdetester-...-vpl-hw15.html
post #43 of 91
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Originally Posted by heja View Post

First in depth test up!

In Norwegian unfortunately but Anbjørn was really impressed and compare it to his HD750 in sevral aspects. Native and Ansi contrast have made a huge leap.

http://avforum.no/forum/dybdetester-...-vpl-hw15.html

Thanks! The review looks good to me. My impression is that the reviewer knows what he's doing. I hope we'll also get an VW85 test from him soon?
post #44 of 91
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Originally Posted by madshi View Post

Thanks! The review looks good to me. My impression is that the reviewer knows what he's doing. I hope we'll also get an VW85 test from him soon?

Unfortunately not in the near future, but it could happen before X-mas

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post #45 of 91
This projector seems like an exceptional value based on this review.

Decent lumens, solid contrast, good color accuracy. I might pick it over the RS10 based on color accuracy.

I think these are going to be pretty popular around here.
post #46 of 91
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Originally Posted by anbjornk View Post

Unfortunately not in the near future, but it could happen before X-mas

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Thanks for the very thorough review.
Looks like 8K:1 iris open and 10K:1 iris 50%, so should expect 12K:1 iris closed? The 40K:1 DI looks like sony is still using their 5X open/3X closed multiplier. Do you have any info on what did they improve in their iris3 implementation?
post #47 of 91
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Originally Posted by HoustonHoyaFan View Post

Thanks for the very thorough review.
Looks like 8K:1 iris open and 10K:1 iris 50%, so should expect 12K:1 iris closed? The 40K:1 DI looks like sony is still using their 5X open/3X closed multiplier. Do you have any info on what did they improve in their iris3 implementation?

Yes, I would expect the contrast to exceed 10K:1 if the iris is closed all the way. I would expect at least 12K:1.
As for the Iris3 implementation, my understanding is that the improvements is mainly from better algorithms.
post #48 of 91
"Bravia 2 video processor in the VPL-HW15 tackles the water with no problems and no gradations are visible. This film consists mainly of bright scenes, where the image dynamics and depth of feeling is very good, and actually better than my reference projector can display (JVC DLA-750). This is mainly because of the solid ANSI contrast Sony has managed to squeeze out of their new model. "

Looks like it will be a good run for the money against the HD350 especially at its price point. But probably not much so against the RS15/HD550 as it contains the upgraded light path for better ANSI contrast.
post #49 of 91
Art is 98% certain that his full review will post on September 9th.

He's been working on it for more than a week.

www.projectorreviews.com/blog/
post #50 of 91
http://www.sony.gr/res/attachment/fi...7476274846.pdf

Sony Projector 2009/2010 Brochure

HW15
VW85
VW200
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post #52 of 91
Thread Starter 
Looks like the HW15 accepts 1080P24sF which is used extensively in commercial broadcast video.
post #53 of 91
Yeah but the new Epson has 200,000:1 contrast ratio...
(Just stirring things up. I plan to get the Sony).
post #54 of 91
So far - This Sony is on my hotlist of projectors.

The reviews are very positive. I cannot wait for Art to do his review on this PJ. Seems like a very hot product for the price.
post #55 of 91
I bet it will be overpriced as all sony's are compared to the competion.
post #56 of 91
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Originally Posted by buddahead View Post

I bet it will be overpriced as all sony's are compared to the competion.

The RRP is already listed in my country's Sony website. It is actually much cheaper than the outgoing HW10.
post #57 of 91
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Originally Posted by buddahead View Post

I bet it will be overpriced as all sony's are compared to the competion.

"Today's projectors keep getting better, and that means it is tougher to distinguish between many of the better ones. That's how I feel about the Sony VPL-HW10. I think Sony has priced it perfectly. There's nothing out there that is, overall, better, that costs any less." -12/01/08 -Art Feierman

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony...10/summary.php

Anyway, soon we'll see what he thinks of the HW-15.
post #58 of 91
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

I am very jealous that manufacturers give our English friends these advance looks at the latest equipment in intimate settings.

I have an office directly across the street from Sony's American HQ in NYC. How about it Sony? I am sure we could scare up a good group of people in Manhattan to come see.

Ah, but they pay 5500 or 2300 GBP... We only pay 5500 or 2300 USD... So they get the priority. Or you could take the money you'll save and buy a RT flight, NYC to London.
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post #60 of 91
They should have just called it the hw-10.But a littel cheaper.Art did not seem to impress by my reading.Also can't Sony ever make a bright FP.Pretty much a movie only fp'Also at 3k I see it being trounce by the new Epsons with double the contrast and brightness and cheaper.Only thing I like is the Sony has a good look.Maybe I could put epsons guts in the sony body.Thanks 703 for the link.
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