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I have been in HT for over 20 yrs now but never played with these shakers. I am thinking about picking up some Clark Syn Tactile Xducers TST209s. I need at least 6 (one per theater recliner) and I'm struggling over what to drive them with. I have heard that people drive them with the amp sections in receivers but most rcvr's are not rated for 4 ohms. This model transducer is rated at 100W continuous and 350 peak. I'm trying to find a solution that will drive them pretty solidly.

Option 1. Would a D3n0n rcvr avr-788 which has 7.1 analog inputs and is rated at 90W RMS into 8 ohms /105 into 6 ohms be enough to will it constantly go into overload and shut off due to the low 4 ohm impediance? I found a great deal on a refurb for ~$200. I would use the second room 2 ch outputs to provide music to another room so it serves 2 purposes. Practical side wants this option.

Option 2. Another option is to buy a dedicated 6 or 3 channel amp. Like a Rotel RKB-650 which is 6 X 80wpc into 4 ohms or Rotel RB-976 bridged 3 X 150 wpc into 8 ohms(2 xducers in series). This option doesn't give me the second room audio coverage and is ~$200-300. I just saw a B&K 6 ch amp with 125wpc into 8 ohms for $375. This option gives me easy control of the amount of shaking taking place at each seat which is a big plus though. I doubt these amps will have trouble with a 4 ohm load either. Purist side wants this option.

Option 3. I looked into the Parts Express plate amps but I would need 3 sa240's to drive the 6 shakers and I'm not sure where to put them. I could make a cube and mount them on 3 sides and put legs on it and leave the top smooth to use as a table. A lot of work and I'm well over $300 for this option. Creative side likes this option.

Option 4. Spend $300 for Behringer EP2000 or QSC G3 amp rated at umpteen zillion watts into 4 ohms and wire all 6 in series/parallel (6 ohms) which will be a light load. They could also be wired to provide 12 ohms to each of the two channels. Neither one is ideal. No control of amount of shaking per seat is the downfall to this option. Seems to be a popular option within the threads.

I'm using a Parasound HCA-2003 (200wpc) for my mains & center and 2 av123 MFW15s for my subs. The shakers will be driven by the sub 2 output from my pre/pro.

Please share your experiences with shakers. Good or bad info on trying receivers and different amps is appreciated.
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Originally Posted by LoudandClear View Post

I have been in HT for over 20 yrs now but never played with these shakers. I am thinking about picking up some Clark Syn Tactile Xducers TST209s. I need at least 6 (one per theater recliner) and I'm struggling over what to drive them with. I have heard that people drive them with the amp sections in receivers but most rcvr's are not rated for 4 ohms. This model transducer is rated at 100W continuous and 350 peak. I'm trying to find a solution that will drive them pretty solidly.

Option 1. Would a D3n0n rcvr avr-788 which has 7.1 analog inputs and is rated at 90W RMS into 8 ohms /105 into 6 ohms be enough to will it constantly go into overload and shut off due to the low 4 ohm impediance? I found a great deal on a refurb for ~$200. I would use the second room 2 ch outputs to provide music to another room so it serves 2 purposes. Practical side wants this option.

Option 2. Another option is to buy a dedicated 6 or 3 channel amp. Like a Rotel RKB-650 which is 6 X 80wpc into 4 ohms or Rotel RB-976 bridged 3 X 150 wpc into 8 ohms(2 xducers in series). This option doesn't give me the second room audio coverage and is ~$200-300. I just saw a B&K 6 ch amp with 125wpc into 8 ohms for $375. This option gives me easy control of the amount of shaking taking place at each seat which is a big plus though. I doubt these amps will have trouble with a 4 ohm load either. Purist side wants this option.

Option 3. I looked into the Parts Express plate amps but I would need 3 sa240's to drive the 6 shakers and I'm not sure where to put them. I could make a cube and mount them on 3 sides and put legs on it and leave the top smooth to use as a table. A lot of work and I'm well over $300 for this option. Creative side likes this option.

Option 4. Spend $300 for Behringer EP2000 or QSC G3 amp rated at umpteen zillion watts into 4 ohms and wire all 6 in series/parallel (6 ohms) which will be a light load. They could also be wired to provide 12 ohms to each of the two channels. Neither one is ideal. No control of amount of shaking per seat is the downfall to this option. Seems to be a popular option within the threads.

I'm using a Parasound HCA-2003 (200wpc) for my mains & center and 2 av123 MFW15s for my subs. The shakers will be driven by the sub 2 output from my pre/pro.

Please share your experiences with shakers. Good or bad info on trying receivers and different amps is appreciated.

1. "rated at 100 watts continuous, 350 peak". I would not connect an amp into your system that could easily go into clipping and damage the shakers. Look at an amp that will be a good match.....4 ohm and plenty of power. Look at the specs on the Clark amps to see which ones they recommend, and look for similar specs if you go with a different brand.
2. BTW, their web site shows a platinum shaker, a gold, and a silver shaker, but not your model tst209......
3. A friend of mine purchased a Clark, (don't know the model)..... and looking for quick impact, cranked everything up only to see smoke rising from the chair it was mounted in. (see #1 above)
post #3 of 5
Two of these:
http://www.thebuttkicker.com/home_th...bka1000-4a.htm
Run 3 transducers off each one. More than enough power and no impedance issues. It also has a variable high cutoff, which I find invaluable, (I don't like the transducer to be active on anything above ~40 Hz... it seems unnatural.)

Craig
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The tst209 model might not be on Clark's website but it is available via parts express. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-861 The 209 model is just below the silver based on the specs listed for the 4 models available thru parts express. The 209 could be discontinued or one time run.

So what was your friend using to drive the Clark when he blew it? Did he underpower it and clip or overpower it? The Clark amps on their webpage list 150w into 4 but they don't say how many xducers they can drive or give much detail about the amp specs.
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1. "rated at 100 watts continuous, 350 peak". I would not connect an amp into your system that could easily go into clipping and damage the shakers. Look at an amp that will be a good match.....4 ohm and plenty of power. Look at the specs on the Clark amps to see which ones they recommend, and look for similar specs if you go with a different brand.
2. BTW, their web site shows a platinum shaker, a gold, and a silver shaker, but not your model tst209......
3. A friend of mine purchased a Clark, (don't know the model)..... and looking for quick impact, cranked everything up only to see smoke rising from the chair it was mounted in. (see #1 above)
post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 
Craig,

Nice mono amps but 2 of them would be out of my price range at $600. Also, I don't see how I can wire 3 4ohm devices to one amp and get the right impedance either. All in parallel would be 1.33 ohms and series would be 12 ohms. Doing a series parallel would not distribute the power evenly with 3.
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

Two of these:
http://www.thebuttkicker.com/home_th...bka1000-4a.htm
Run 3 transducers off each one. More than enough power and no impedance issues. It also has a variable high cutoff, which I find invaluable, (I don't like the transducer to be active on anything above ~40 Hz... it seems unnatural.)

Craig
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