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post #6271 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Nice work to get some of the cals in a tidy package.
I have Jason's (da game pimp) and Art's on 2 presets and the other preset at factory setting with Contrast/Brightness at -5. All look good with slight differences.

I've finally come to the conclusion that after painting my walls and ceiling VERY dark gray, I don't need to boost the Contrast/Brightness but rather turn them down, regardless of what the 709 cal disk says (contrast +23, Bright +8) which is blindingly bright. It's likely my incompetence as everyone else seems to find it great.

Patrick would you mind sharing the 2 settings you referred to in your below post? Thank you.

"I have Jason's (da game pimp) and Art's on 2 presets and the other preset at factory setting with Contrast/Brightness at -5. All look good with slight differences."
post #6272 of 6366
Here you go golffnutt. It's the link in gechu's post.
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Originally Posted by gechu View Post

I´ve collected different configurations (some may be incomplete though..). Of course they are all context dependent, but can be worth a try, The document is editable by anyone so please feel free to add information.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiFlWHuIk-OwdE9tTld5NkhWY1FFVFJmeHR5OEVtQ0E
post #6273 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Nice work to get some of the cals in a tidy package.
I have Jason's (da game pimp) and Art's on 2 presets and the other preset at factory setting with Contrast/Brightness at -5. All look good with slight differences.

I've finally come to the conclusion that after painting my walls and ceiling VERY dark gray, I don't need to boost the Contrast/Brightness but rather turn them down, regardless of what the 709 cal disk says (contrast +23, Bright +8) which is blindingly bright. It's likely my incompetence as everyone else seems to find it great.

Contrast at +23? WOW, that's high. Mine is at (-4). Your's is "blindingly bright" because the contrast is way too high. The normal contrast test patterns don't work with the HC3800. You have to watch for color shift as you raise the contrast. Mine turns pinkish as I hit (-4).
post #6274 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Contrast at +23? WOW, that's high. Mine is at (-4). Your's is "blindingly bright" because the contrast is way too high. The normal contrast test patterns don't work with the HC3800. You have to watch for color shift as you raise the contrast. Mine turns pinkish as I hit (-4).

Hi Jim,

That's the first time that I have ever heard that and I've probably posted my dis-satisfaction with the 709 disks contrast setting (getting the bars to stop blinking at 240= +23) on numerous occasions. I'm really glad that you told me as I thought the receiver's video processor (Onkyo 818) or the Blu-ray player (Sony BDPS360) were set wrong and screwing it up.

I've never seen anyone have it set near that level in all the cals that people post but as everyone mentions, each pj is different.

As i said, I'm using Dagamepimp's (Jason) and Art's settings and one I've set on my own (Factory default except Contrast/Brightness at -5, low lamp) and it's now very watchable and I don't wake up with stye's in my eyes.

Can you tell me why the 3800 is unable to be adjusted with the 709 disk.

Are you using a gray scale when you say you set it to when it starts to turn pinkish?

I can't thank you enough for your post, it was extremely helpful.
post #6275 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Here you go golffnutt. It's the link in gechu's post.

Thank you very much Patrick. Have a wonderful evening.
post #6276 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Hi Jim,
That's the first time that I have ever heard that and I've probably posted my dis-satisfaction with the 709 disks contrast setting (getting the bars to stop blinking at 240= +23) on numerous occasions. I'm really glad that you told me as I thought the receiver's video processor (Onkyo 818) or the Blu-ray player (Sony BDPS360) were set wrong and screwing it up.
I've never seen anyone have it set near that level in all the cals that people post but as everyone mentions, each pj is different.
As i said, I'm using Dagamepimp's (Jason) and Art's settings and one I've set on my own (Factory default except Contrast/Brightness at -5, low lamp) and it's now very watchable and I don't wake up with stye's in my eyes.
Can you tell me why the 3800 is unable to be adjusted with the 709 disk.
Are you using a gray scale when you say you set it to when it starts to turn pinkish?
I can't thank you enough for your post, it was extremely helpful.

I have the AVS 709 test patterns and the Spears and Munsil disc, and neither one's contrast test patterns work properly with my 3800. I don't know why, but it happens with a lot of different displays, from what I've read. I got advice here in the Calibration section about setting contrast in a situation like ours. I used the contrast test pattern on the S&M disc, and watched for when the bars started to turn pinkish. That's the correct setting. You can do the same thing with the AVS 709 contrast test pattern.
post #6277 of 6366
Thanks, Jim.

Go Packers.
post #6278 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Thanks, Jim.
Go Packers.

You are welcome, but I HATE the Packers !!
post #6279 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

You are welcome, but I HATE the Packers !!

That's funny, I live in Chicago and HATE the Bears.
post #6280 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

That's funny, I live in Chicago and HATE the Bears.

I grew up in Chicago, and I'm a Bear fan
post #6281 of 6366
Hey guys, my dad's Hc3800 just started to shut off randomly after a few minutes again. It hasnt done it in a long time but not it is getting bad. It is out of warranty but he said he will talk with Mitsubishi to see if they can help him.

Do we have to send it back can I update the firmware myself?
post #6282 of 6366
Check the light indicators on the unit against the manual to see if they are telling you what the issue is.

Could be a new lamp is needed or if is service is required it will have to be sent off unless there is a local Mitsubishi authorized repair center close to you.

You cannot update the firmware yourself.

Jason
post #6283 of 6366
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Originally Posted by neokeelo View Post

Hey guys, my dad's Hc3800 just started to shut off randomly after a few minutes again. It hasnt done it in a long time but not it is getting bad. It is out of warranty but he said he will talk with Mitsubishi to see if they can help him.

Do we have to send it back can I update the firmware myself?

"It hasnt done it in a long time but not it is getting bad"

Uhm, this sounds like it could have been the random shutdown issue that early HC3800's had. Perhaps this unit isn't used very much? Either way, when a PJ randomly shuts down for no reason, send it in before the warranty expires! This goes for any problems actually.

Otherwise you end up with the situation here....
post #6284 of 6366
If it's the random-shutdown problem, it can be minimized by setting the BD player to output a fixed resolution.

1080i usually works well since it's also a low enough bitrate to work with marginal cables.
post #6285 of 6366
Does anybody know what the purpose of the 'set up' (Auto, off, 3.75%, 7.5%) is? I realize that it makes the picture darker when set to 3.75%, 7.5% but what's the point and what should it be set to?
post #6286 of 6366
I have a problem/question that I hope someone can help me with. When I make my settings I save them in Memory 1. When I make a second and different set of settings I press Memory 2. Problem is, when I make my settings, it changes all three memory settings to the last set of settings I chose. In other words all 3 memory settings are the same. I thought you could make three, DIFFERENT, sets of settings and save them in Memory 1,2, and 3? Please let me know what I am doing wrong or what I am missing. Thank you so much and I wish everyone a wonderful weekend.
post #6287 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Does anybody know what the purpose of the 'set up' (Auto, off, 3.75%, 7.5%) is? I realize that it makes the picture darker when set to 3.75%, 7.5% but what's the point and what should it be set to?

Leave it on Auto, that is mainly for use with older analog SD video (RF/Compostie/S-Video/Component). It honestly should not be active with HDMI as there is already a setting for limited (16-235) and expanded (0-255).


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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

I have a problem/question that I hope someone can help me with. When I make my settings I save them in Memory 1. When I make a second and different set of settings I press Memory 2. Problem is, when I make my settings, it changes all three memory settings to the last set of settings I chose. In other words all 3 memory settings are the same. I thought you could make three, DIFFERENT, sets of settings and save them in Memory 1,2, and 3? Please let me know what I am doing wrong or what I am missing. Thank you so much and I wish everyone a wonderful weekend.

You can have 3 different memory presets.

Use the 'AV mem save' then select '1,2 or 3' and then hit 'Enter' to save it.

Jason
post #6288 of 6366
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Leave it on Auto, that is mainly for use with older analog SD video (RF/Compostie/S-Video/Component). It honestly should not be active with HDMI as there is already a setting for limited (16-235) and expanded (0-255).
Jason

Thanks Jason, I'll leave it on 'Auto'. Where would this limited-expanded setting be?
post #6289 of 6366
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post


Use the 'AV mem save' then select '1,2 or 3' and then hit 'Enter' to save it.

Jason

And just to clarify, you chose the 'AV mem save' in the drop down menu, not the actual AV memory buttons on the remote.

So, make your changes, chose which AV memory position you want from the drop down menu, then a flash message will come up (saving or saved to memory x, I believe), then when you hit the appropriate AV memory button, it will change to those saved settings.
post #6290 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Thanks Jason, I'll leave it on 'Auto'. Where would this limited-expanded setting be?

I recall Mitsu calling it "Input Level", there was an Auto mode, Expanded/Enhanced and Standard/Normal.

Jason
post #6291 of 6366
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

I recall Mitsu calling it "Input Level", there was an Auto mode, Expanded/Enhanced and Standard/Normal.

Jason

I found it. It's not an available option, likely due to HDMI.
post #6292 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

Does anybody know what the purpose of the 'set up' (Auto, off, 3.75%, 7.5%) is? I realize that it makes the picture darker when set to 3.75%, 7.5% but what's the point and what should it be set to?

I thought the consensus here was to set this to "OFF".
post #6293 of 6366
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Originally Posted by Patrick Murphy View Post

I found it. It's not an available option, likely due to HDMI.

Actually it should be active with HDMI but could vary depending on the resolution you are sending.

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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

I thought the consensus here was to set this to "OFF".

Off or Auto via HDMI should not matter as it should have the same end result (no change).

Jason
post #6294 of 6366
Jason,

I just went through your 'HT Slideshow' and you've had a LOT of pj's. I'm only on my 3rd...Mits 3800, 3000 and an old Advent from the '70's with the concave screen. Still have it sitting in the basement along with 4-5 AVR's, 3 DVD players, a couple of Laser disk players and an original 1976 Sony Betamax. I don't throw anything away.

I should build a museum.
post #6295 of 6366
Hehe, yeah I used to keep all my stuff too but then realized it made more sense to sell it off while it still had value and move on to newer shiny stuff. biggrin.gif

My slideshow is just a sampling, there are others that I either did not take pics of or did not come across the pics on my current pc (will round them all up someday).

As noted under the pics some are not mine, a few of the units are ones that I have calibrated for others recently (local friends/family).

Jason
post #6296 of 6366
Hey all,

Having issues with my 3800. Was working flawlessly til about a week ago. It randomly powered itself off. Now, when i power it on, the power light is solid green, the status light is solid green. Fan is spinning, bulb fires fine and I get the Mitsubishi logo. I than hear the fan and bulb both turn off. The status light than blinks green for several seconds. he power light will than turn red and the unit will power down completely. The bulb was replaced in late August(was a free bulb received when unit was purchased).


Any help would be appreciated

Thanks,
Z
post #6297 of 6366
Did you reset the lamp counter when the lamp was replace? Once the counter hits the max it will not allow the projector to operate until it is reset.
post #6298 of 6366
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Originally Posted by airscapes View Post

Did you reset the lamp counter when the lamp was replace? Once the counter hits the max it will not allow the projector to operate until it is reset.


Yes, I reset counter by holding the 3 buttons ( < > and power ) together for 3 seconds and confirmed that the counter read 0 by checking the counter. As a precaution I also redid the counter reset. I unplugged unit, plugged it in and held the 3 buttons. Same results.

Thank you for your answer though


Z
post #6299 of 6366
Did you check the manual for the blink troubleshooting codes, it should be in the back (not sure if it is in the service manual or the regular user manual).
post #6300 of 6366
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Did you check the manual for the blink troubleshooting codes, it should be in the back (not sure if it is in the service manual or the regular user manual).

Yes.

Under the listing of abnormal condition no listing really matches. But, under the listing of Normal condition it lists this. Which closely


POWER STATUS CONDITION NOTE

STEADY GREEN BLINKING GREEN Lamp stand-by (about 1 minute) The POWER button cannot be used to
switch between on and off.


But it doesnt do this steady as it will power itself off eventually
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