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PS3 Slim and Bravia Sync

post #1 of 33
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I got my PS3 yesterday and was excited about the idea that I didn't have to use the PS3 Controller becuase I have a Bravia KDS-50A3000 TV with the Bravia Sync option. When I connect he PS3 it recognizes it on my TV but the only function I can get to work is turning the PS3 off from the Bravia TV. I have read where people have been able to navigate the PS3 XMB Menu with the Bravia remote but I haven't had any luck getting that to work. Any suggestions? This was a huge selling point for me and I'll be pretty disappointed if it doesn't end up working. Thanks.
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post #3 of 33
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I appreciate your attempt to help me but I don't see an answer to my question in the link you posted. I looked at the last few pages and saw where they are talking about the PS3 and Bravia Sync but I still don't see an answer to my question. All it mentioned was that the PS3 has the option. Am I missing something?
post #4 of 33
Bravia sync works on my Samsung TV. I'm able to browse the xmb and turn off/on the tv with the ps3. Try clicking on the source and look for HDMI/CEC? or HDMI/ANYNET+ instead of the default hdmi you have the ps3 set on.
post #5 of 33
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Originally Posted by leehom View Post

Bravia sync works on my Samsung TV. I'm able to browse the xmb and turn off/on the tv with the ps3. Try clicking on the source and look for HDMI/CEC? or HDMI/ANYNET+ instead of the default hdmi you have the ps3 set on.

when you say browse the XMB did you try to play a BD from the XMB using the remote for your tv.?


I have my Sony Bravia A3000 connected to my Denon receiver and HDMI CEC works both ways. I can turn off my receiver by turning off the tv and vice versa. I have all my sources going through the Denon: HD DVR, PS3 fat, and my HTPC, then the Denon out with one single HDMI cable.

If HDMI CEC works with those other brands, which is awesome and the PS3 Slim can do HDMI CEC and so can my TV, if set up correctly I don't see why it wouldn't work. I wonder if those that have tried it and couldn't get it to work set the HDMI CEC up correctly. It would seem that if the receiver should just allow a pass thru of the PS3 to the tv and allow access to the XMB.

I am not home now and won't be for two weeks, but when I do get home I may get a slim PS3 and see if it works. As quiet and reliable my PS3 80g is I would enjoy the ability to turn off and on all three, reciever, tv and PS3 with the remote from my Bravia and have BD access to start, play etc. I never had much of an issue with the PS3 controller for BD playback, but having one remote to do it all would be a nice convenience and less confusing.

*EDIT*Well, this was quick:

Connecting directly to a 32-inch BRAVIA L-Series TV via HDMI gave us the option to utilize BRAVIA Sync and manage the system using our TV remote. Once enabled (via System Settings > Control for HDMI), we were able to do some basic tasks like navigate the XMB menu and control video playback, but other than that, there isn't a lot to see here -- sure, you can turn off both the display and the PS3 with the power button, but you can't use the same method for turning the pair back on, and browsing the PS Store comes quickly to a grinding halt once you realize there's no way to go back in the menus. It's a neat feature, but given the limitations, it's pretty pointless since you'll still need the DualShock 3 handy. Like TrueHD / DTS-HD, this feature only works on the Slim hardware and won't be coming to classic in the future.

From this:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/p...3-slim-review/


So yes, it does work and with a BRavia.
post #6 of 33
that's too bad. I was thinking it might be a remote control replacement, but alas, it is not.

Does the SLIM have IR??? Or is the best remote alternative still the Harmony BT adapter or one of the other BT-IR converters?
post #7 of 33
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Originally Posted by leehom View Post

Bravia sync works on my Samsung TV. I'm able to browse the xmb and turn off/on the tv with the ps3. Try clicking on the source and look for HDMI/CEC? or HDMI/ANYNET+ instead of the default hdmi you have the ps3 set on.

My Bravia reads that the PS3 is there I am just unable to use any of the remote functions besides the Power Off.
post #8 of 33
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

*EDIT*Well, this was quick:

Connecting directly to a 32-inch BRAVIA L-Series TV via HDMI gave us the option to utilize BRAVIA Sync and manage the system using our TV remote. Once enabled (via System Settings > Control for HDMI), we were able to do some basic tasks like navigate the XMB menu and control video playback, but other than that, there isn't a lot to see here -- sure, you can turn off both the display and the PS3 with the power button, but you can't use the same method for turning the pair back on, and browsing the PS Store comes quickly to a grinding halt once you realize there's no way to go back in the menus. It's a neat feature, but given the limitations, it's pretty pointless since you'll still need the DualShock 3 handy. Like TrueHD / DTS-HD, this feature only works on the Slim hardware and won't be coming to classic in the future.

From this:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/p...3-slim-review/


So yes, it does work and with a BRavia.

This is where I read that it would work in the first place, that's why I am getting frustrated. The only difference that I noticed is that in that article it shows a picture of the remote and it has "Bravia Sync" options on the remote, mine doesn't have that. It does have Bravia Sync as an option though, just not the controls.
post #9 of 33
I am having a similar issue. I purchased a PS3 Slim and a Sony Bravia TV so that I could set up a media centre in my lounge as I didn't have a CD or DVD player and all my media was on my wireless network. This option seemed promising especially with the prospect of only having one remote to control it all (the main thing that managed to convince my wife) through Bravia Sync.

If only it was so simple! It appears that I have one of the only Sony Bravia models without Bravia Sync (it's the KDL-40S5500) although everywhere it's listed, amazon, play etc. shows it has this feature.

All I wanted to be able to do was let my wife play music and DVD's via the XMB on the PS3 Slim using the TV remote. I paid extra for a Sony Bravia for this feature which I now realise I could have probably got with Samsung's Anynet+.

I rang Sony and they were next to useless, they did manage to confirm that my TV did NOT have Bravia Sync but changed the subject once I asked what the differences between Bravia Sync and HDMI-CEC were. I rang Richer Sounds and they weren't any help, they told me that the TV DID have Bravia Sync.

The strange thing is that the TV I have does have HDMI-CEC and when the TV is turned off it also turns off the PS3, so it's almost there.

My questions: What's the difference between Bravia Sync and HDMI-CEC? From what I've read, not a lot but there must be something different that's stopping me browsing the XMB.
Could it be my cable? It is a 7m Neet 1.3b HDMI cable from ebay.

HawkRSX, I am also missing the extra Bravia Sync buttons on my remote, do you think buying a new remote may work? Have you got to the bottom of this problem?

Any help appeciated.
post #10 of 33
Tested it out tonight....on a 52W4100 (2008)

Once I turned on the HDMI control in the PS3, I turned on control in the TV. I entered the HDMI control menu and enabled the PS3 device.

Once completed....

I was able to maneuver the XMB with the TV remotes directional pad, x=center button on the pad. In my bravia sync portion of the TV remote, play, pause, FF, RW, and stop all functioned as normal. I did make the finding that the following button not in the sync portion of the remote worked as the buttons of the PS3 controller: the "return" button = circle for going back out of options, and IIRC correctly, the "guide" button = triangle.

The down side was that the remote wasn't all that responsive. There was quite a felling of lag in the operation. That said I turned it off and continued to use my IR to BT converter. But had I not already had a converter...this is a pretty cool feature.
post #11 of 33
Update on my PS3 Slim Bravia Sync Issues.

Richer Sounds agreed to let me exchange my resently purchased 40S5500. I stumped up some extra cash and got the 40V5500 which does have Bravia Sync. I'm so glad I did.

I now have the single remote entertainment system I was after. I spent this evening watching TV, playing DVDs, streaming music from my network drive, watching iPlayer and viewing slideshows of my photos, all without even needing to touch my PS3 controller.

Even my wife was impressed!
post #12 of 33
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Originally Posted by HawkRSX View Post

I got my PS3 yesterday and was excited about the idea that I didn't have to use the PS3 Controller becuase I have a Bravia KDS-50A3000 TV with the Bravia Sync option. When I connect he PS3 it recognizes it on my TV but the only function I can get to work is turning the PS3 off from the Bravia TV. I have read where people have been able to navigate the PS3 XMB Menu with the Bravia remote but I haven't had any luck getting that to work. Any suggestions? This was a huge selling point for me and I'll be pretty disappointed if it doesn't end up working. Thanks.

Your HDTV is too old and will not be able to handle the Bravia Sync. Sorry.
post #13 of 33
how abt 60xs950
post #14 of 33
The TV must be Bravia Sync capable. If you look up your model on Sonystyle it will be listed on the features. This is a newer feature so their RPTVs are out and their lower end models too.
post #15 of 33
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Originally Posted by mbyrnes View Post

The TV must be Bravia Sync capable. If you look up your model on Sonystyle it will be listed on the features. This is a newer feature so their RPTVs are out and their lower end models too.

Samsung anynet also works..


post #16 of 33
Here is an article on the whole HDMI-CEC. Some brands will work with each other. Hopefully this helps.
post #17 of 33
I have a Samsung PN42 and Anynet works. It's called something odd in the PS3 settings menu. HDMI control or something. First turn it on in the Settings->System Settings in PS3, then go into Anynet and it will be in the device list.

It's very neat, but the buttons aren't mapped properly. I have the standard VCR buttons on my remote: play, pause, FF, rewind, stop, but only FF and rewind work. The arrow buttons will do fastforward/rewind and navigate the ps3 menus, the Enter button is mapped to X and Exit is mapped to O. So you can do play/pause and cancel.

I was really hoping the Triangle button would be mapped, because it's so powerful. It's useful for changing picture size, aspect ratio, transferring files, but it doesn't seem to be supported on my remote.

So if you're having trouble with your TV remote: experiment.
post #18 of 33
Does this feature eliminate the need for Logitech Harmony PS3 adapter? My rig consists of a Sony Bravia 46V5100 LCD, PS3 Slim, and a Sony STR-DG910 receiver all hooked up via HDMI. Lately the PS3 seems to randomly drop the bluetooth connection with the Logitech adapter so if this would work to eliminate the need for the adapter would be very nice.
post #19 of 33
I had a sony kdl52v5100 last month and the bravia sync with the ps3 slim didnt work very well....I returned the sony due to some really bad red shift and got the samsung pn50b850 instead and ironically enough the hdmi control for the ps3 seems to work better with the samsung than the sony.

Either way functionality was limited and not alllllll that useful. Is nice to turn one off and have them both turn off however. ahhh the little perks in life.
post #20 of 33
Thanks for the info. So I guess functions like eject, subtitle, and audio are out of the question.
post #21 of 33
how does sync work or how do you get it working? I have my ps3 plugged in via hdmi on my 46ve5 and when I go to the device list my ps3 doesn't show up. What do I have to do to sync?
post #22 of 33
Go to the PS3's Settings menu and turn on "Control for HDMI"
post #23 of 33
As far as I've read, Bravia sync only works with the new Slims and not the old Fatties... Is this correct, because I've never seen "Control for HDMI" in any PS3 menu on my 80gig PS3.
post #24 of 33
HDMI CEC is a new feature exclusive to the Slim.
post #25 of 33
I have a slim and a 46W3000 (2008) (one model below XBR) . The manual says the TV is Bravia Sync compatible. I can see the PS3 in the TV HDMI control page. The HDMI-CEC setting in the PS3 is on. When everything is off, pressing the PS3 button on the dualshock controller turns on the PS3, and the TV and selects the right input.

I can also control my Sony sound system with the TV remote (volume).

However, my remote does not have a separate Bravia sync section. It does have a VCR/PVR section and a little door at the bottom that opens up and has a few extra controls like record and BD/DVD top menu etc.

I would like to control the Blue Ray player in the PS3 with this remote. Is it possible ?

Is it only possible if the remote has a bravia sync section ?
post #26 of 33
It depends entirely on your remote and TV. Basically I plugged mine in, turned on Control for HDMI on the PS3, and started hitting buttons, seeing what worked. I suggest you do the same, it can't really do any harm

The buttons on my Samsung Remote used for navigating the TV menus also work on the PS3 menus and can play/pause DVDs and Blurays.
post #27 of 33
Here is my set up and problem with CEC.

PS3 Slim, connected to an Onkyo 705 via HDMI. 705 connected to the HDMI 1 port on my Sammy 8500. I have a Harmony 880 remote. The tv sees the PS3 when setting for CEC are turned on. Here is my problem. When the setting is "off" on the PS3, I show HDMI 1/AV Reciever in the source list on the Sammy. Turn on the CEC setting on the PS3, it adds Anynet-CEC as another active source on my Sammy. No big deal right, but when I select "watch TV" on my Harmony, the TV swaps to an inactive OTA channel after the PS3 powers down. I have to go back into the TV menu and reselect HDMI 1. I turn the CEC setting back to off on the PS3 and all is well. Any ideas.
post #28 of 33
I successfully had bravia sync on my kdl46v5100 working with my ps3 slim since I bought it a few months back. All of a sudden yesterday, it's just not working anymore. Control for HDMI is still turned on in the PS3 menu, and the tv still recognizes the HDMI connection, I can just no longer use my tv remote with the PS3, or have it automatically switch over to the PS3's input (HDMI 2) when turning the PS3 on with the controller. Any thoughts or suggestions of why the sync would just stop working, or how to possibly get it going again?
post #29 of 33
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Originally Posted by crescentfresh View Post

I successfully had bravia sync on my kdl46v5100 working with my ps3 slim since I bought it a few months back. All of a sudden yesterday, it's just not working anymore. Control for HDMI is still turned on in the PS3 menu, and the tv still recognizes the HDMI connection, I can just no longer use my tv remote with the PS3, or have it automatically switch over to the PS3's input (HDMI 2) when turning the PS3 on with the controller. Any thoughts or suggestions of why the sync would just stop working, or how to possibly get it going again?

I have been having the same problem. However, it happened after installing surround sound system receiver between the TV and the PS3. It is a Sony receiver that supports Bravia Sync and it worked for the first few day and now it suddenly doesn't work. Sometimes it comes back though. I am beginning to think that it goes away when I plug the USB cable to charge my controllers. It is really annoying.
post #30 of 33
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Originally Posted by Shadowboricua View Post

I have been having the same problem. However, it happened after installing surround sound system receiver between the TV and the PS3. It is a Sony receiver that supports Bravia Sync and it worked for the first few day and now it suddenly doesn't work. Sometimes it comes back though. I am beginning to think that it goes away when I plug the USB cable to charge my controllers. It is really annoying.

Hmmm, I don't have a receiver or surround sound of any type. I also don't charge my controllers through the PS3 (horrible design that you can't charge unless the system is on. I end up charging controllers with the usb ports on the back of my Wii instead). I have no idea why the PS3 won't sync with the tv anymore, and am lost as to how to even try to get it back since everything is configured for the two to communicate.
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