Originally Posted by TomHuffman
The meter mode has nothing to do with this. This is something weird about this display, which I haven't spent enough time with to troubleshoot. It sounds like the set's CMS results in very non-linear results throughout the color space.
What do you mean that "standard user modes resulted in poor calibration"? Could you be as specific here as you were in describing calibration from the user menu? FWIW, I saw the same thing with a user calibration.
Did you try the Sharp's controls in the ISF menu or just the Mini?
Sorry I wasn't clear....
Initially, I had tried calibrating the set using several of the user modes (THX, Movie, etc.) using the standard CMS controls (not the ISF mode). This was after you have visited, and I did not get good results.
I also tried to use a Mini to calibrate these modes, but all of the initial RGB readings showed severely undersaturated unless I turned on Local Dimming, which brought the primary sats up some, but still way to low, or one of the Advanced local dimming modes, which shot the primaries way up. But all I've read is that those features should be turned off when calibrating, and in fact, when you enable the ISF mode, the set turns them off automatically.
The ISF mode is is different it seems, as I do not see the undersaturated primaries, and I thought all was going well (using the Greyscale and CMS in the Elite's ISF mode; gamma/greyscale tweaking was done in the Mini simultaneously, as there is no way to set gamma properly in the Elite alone)
They despite EXCELLENT numbers and charts, the colors looked off when viewing - watching the Rangers/Canandiens game showed that red was really magenta, and in fact, the ACM chart (which I did not save foolishly, but will run again and do so), showed a severe shift toward magenta, and the points themselves where way off. Same for all colors really; some 25/50 or 50/75 points were nearly bunched up on one another.
Skin tones were too saturated, yellows too pronounced... really odd.
I actually went back in and pulled Red hue and Magenta hue back more toward center from their more radical positions (to get Red "right" when calibrating, Hue was moved quite a bit to Magenta). This manual tweak helped somewhat, but the tracking is not right at all.
My next thought is to enable ISF mode, but leave the Elite Greyscale and CMS controlled untouched (expect White Point), and then run a Lumagen only cal and see what happens.
I do have the detailed calibration report, but if you were to read it, you would likely say fantastic!
I am on my third Elite because of DSE issues and my concerns over calibration - frankly, while they are about to send a fourth! set, I am really thinking there is something fundamentally wrong with the way this set decodes color. If you are still planning on supporting auto cal to the Elite directly, I'm curious what you will find
If you need to stop by again and spend more time to figure this panel out, you are welcome to do so...