Originally Posted by DoxieRob
Thank you Maximus. That "something wrong" is exactly what I'm trying to get at after months & months of trying to get this thing calibrated. I'll definitely try your 87 color and "normal" color space. Unfortunately I can't use Sony's software for the gamma, because I don't have a laptop and my iMac only has USB ports. I've tried every different cable suggested on this site, but Sony has made it ridiculously difficult for their customers to use the Image Director.
Tom says basically that I have all of the tools at my disposal, but of course I already know that. I even enhanced the tools by subsequently purchasing the Duo + auto-cal from him, after only initially purchasing the meter + ChromaPure. So, that's one suggestion that I hope you're wrong about - removing the Duo. This would be a very expensive disaster if that was the cause.
Where I'm frustratingly at, at this point, is this analogy - I've been given a new car with a stick-shift, after having only ever driven an automatic and I can't get anyone to tell me how the shifter works along with the clutch peddle. Yes, I have the fine new car & transmission, but it doesn't do me any good if after every time I try to drive off, the car stalls because I don't know how to use the shifter & clutch.
Now someone might say - "well do some research" - "read up on this". I can tell you that I've done exhaustive research. I've read everything I can find both on this website and everywhere & anywhere on the web (including a couple excellent articles by Tom). There are lots of articles about color oversaturation on projectors, but all they speak to is just that - the fact that the oversaturation exists. Unfortunately they don't tell you how to go about fixing the problem and here's the extra rub - no one especially tells you how to fix it WHILE still having all of your numbers fit into a good calibration.
Also, there opposing viewpoints out there by very respectable calibrators, too. For example Tom advocates the 75% saturation approach to overcome the oversaturation (again "somehow"), but if you go to Michael Chen's (sorry, I hope that's his name) very nice new calibration website (I took THE test and scored right at the average) - he will tell you to use 100% saturation, because if 75% is used, that actually contributes to oversation at 100%.
I'm also not too pleased with the Duo's instructions. They are meager to say the least.
Between resources like this site and sites of other calibration expersts, along with fundamental learning instructions like "Calibration for Dummies" (which apparently I'm one of), etc., what is sorely needed, in my humble opinion, is a resource that actually not only holds your hand, but guides you through the consequences of youir actions. For example - "if you want to fix this, fix that" and WHY you're fixing it a certain way and then what happens if you don't address things or approaches properly. In a nutshell, pretty much everything I've researched drives circles around & around & around particular critical points, but doesn't give you something like a flow-chart where you travel down a path and if this doesn't work, try that, etc., etc. I've posted what to me looks like a really good calibration, on paper and all I'm looking for is a really knowledgeable person to say - here you go - this is your problem right here. (Since I'm providing all of my settings and environment, too.) If their suggestion(s) doesn't pan-out, no problem, at least it was constructive guidance.
Another particular problem that I run into is the fact that professional calibrators are so astute at what they do, then due to no fault of their own they either talk over your head (shorthand for what they know) or they address questions in a somewhat (unintentional - I think) condescending way.
So, again - thank you for your suggestions, Maximus. I'll try those and then if that fails, continue to drive endlessly down the road, undoubtedly killing the car at every stoplight, because I'm releasing the clutch peddle too fast or not giving the car enough on the gas peddle. I'm thinking that 250+ hours, including many Friday night all-nighters of experimentation and attempted application are enough. I've visited and revisted every calibration scenario, angle and approach with this projector, which quote, "calibrates beautifully", per one professional review and I can only throw up my hands at this point. This oversaturated color issue has got me utterly and completely baffled, frustrated and disgusted at this point.
And here a few months ago I thought that all of this calibration stuff was going to FUN! Phhhht - who was I kidding?!?