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post #151 of 197
Thanks for the interesting discussion. However, I got this player for $70 because I simply wanted to have the option to play blu ray dvds without making a major investment. I patiently waited for a sub $100 blu ray player and this one fits the bill quite nicely. I figure that it will suffice for a year or two while the prices of blu rays continues to fall and additional features are added.

FWIW, I've had this player for a couple weeks now and it plays Blu Rays very nicely and load time is decent. It does everything I want and I couldn't be happier.
post #152 of 197
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Originally Posted by coronakid View Post

Thanks for the interesting discussion. However, I got this player for $70 because I simply wanted to have the option to play blu ray dvds without making a major investment. I patiently waited for a sub $100 blu ray player and this one fits the bill quite nicely. I figure that it will suffice for a year or two while the prices of blu rays continues to fall and additional features are added.

FWIW, I've had this player for a couple weeks now and it plays Blu Rays very nicely and load time is decent. It does everything I want and I couldn't be happier.

I got this player for $80 , at that price this toshiba is a great value! I only use for blu ray discs and it looks great! Load times arent too terribly long, about the same as my ps3. Remote control is weak- have to point it directly at the player.
post #153 of 197
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Originally Posted by Onykonewb View Post

I got this player for $80 , at that price this toshiba is a great value! I only use for blu ray discs and it looks great! Load times arent too terribly long, about the same as my ps3. Remote control is weak- have to point it directly at the player.

My remote isn't too bad. I can't point it at the player from an extreme angle, but then again I won't be watching it from such an angle. I tried the Vizio Blu-Ray player that Wal-mart sells (its made for them by Desay) and its remote was horrible. I literally had to be standing in front of the unit from no more than a few feet away. One of the reasons I took it back. By comparison the Toshiba remote is fine.
post #154 of 197
Hello, I've got a question for all you BDX2000. I've seen some of these listed with Firewire. Will that work as an output? My Mitsu will take 1080P into it's Firewire port but only 1080i using HDMI so this would be an ideal player for me if this is the case.
post #155 of 197
Sincere thanks to each of you for this ongoing discussion thread, as I have been diligently following your respective input. I have appreciated your feedback, performance findings, and honest thoughts regarding this model's limitations and third-party manufacture concerns. And when I saw one of you mention the price dropping to $99 and lower, I made the decision to purchase it.

My Toshiba BDX2000 has arrived and I have connected it to my recent model Toshiba Regza 52" LCD. The high def images from blu-ray disk are just as crisp as those of my 2009 Samsung BDP1500 that the Toshiba blu-ray replaces. The DVD upconvert works very well, as good as the Samsung. Of note, the sound output is actually much better than what I got coming from the Samsung.

My Toshiba LCD Television's remote control unit is visually very appealing and is ergonomically well-laid-out, and it works flawlessly on the Toshiba blu-ray player as promised by the Regza link (only after the "HDMI CDC" setting was activated on the blu-ray's menu). This is a good thing because I am not particularly pleased with the blu-ray remote's layout or appearance, and pleased that I don't have to use it.

For someone like me who is an infrequent user and who is on a rather strict budget, I can live with this model's limitations, especially at this price. I don't need the Netflix or Amazon online movie access, and I can live without the live firmware update download option (I accept that I'll have to download firmware updates to a CD separately).

In a nutshell, this unit is fine and I am pleased by the remarkable image and sound quality and Regza link convenience considering the low price. For anyone who wants the streaming content and firmware update via Internet connection, I recommend the Panasonic DMP-BD60 recently on sale for around $125-$159. My neighbor has one and is very pleased, and I believe it offers access to Amazon's online movie content.

Note Regarding Samsung: My BDP1500 was purchased in late March 2009 when I purchased my Toshiba TV. The Samsung promptly ceased all function at 6 months and 3 days after the date of purchase. Geek Squad checked it out and said it was irreparable. Samsung would not replace it as the model only had a 6 month warranty. Thus the reason I chose to research Toshiba and Panasonic and to swear-off Samsung for now. I found your discussion thread as a part of that research process and am eternally grateful.
post #156 of 197
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

If it is a Warner Blu-Ray title nearly all of them (I think there are only one or two that don't) will will start playing without defaulting to the menu. It is not your player I find it annoying that Warner does this and many of their transfers also set the audio to lossy vs lossless. Not sure about your Walk In The Sun DVD.

Thanks ack_bk. If that's the case, then maybe I don't need to return the player, as it seems through checking that it was only that one disc (Walk In The Sun) and other Warners did exactly as you say. Of course, the next SD disc I tested had to be Charley Varrick, which (strangely) really does have no menus. But a whole bunch of other SD's play just fine so I think (or at least hope) it's all good for now.
post #157 of 197
My thoughts after playing a few movies now with the Toshiba. Blu-ray playback is excellent. DVD's load really fast. Blu-rays load slower but not terribly slow and of course it depends on the blu-ray. One disc I tried was just a basic transfer (non-java too) and on that one (Dark City) there was not much difference between it and a DVD accordingly. I'm not impressed by the upconversion. There's not much improvement on the Toshiba over my old 480p sony. However, DVD's load faster on it than that old Sony. Remote range seems fine for me, but it feels really cheap in the hand. It looks Ok once you take the protective plastic sheet off the remote face, but I pick it up and I have an instant yuck reaction. I will be using my universal once I have time to program it so its not a problem for me. I am going to try some beat up DVDs shortly to see how well it handles scratches, etc. the paneled front definitely gives it a classier look. It definitely is towards the top of its price class for the appearance factor. For $70, its a definite keeper.
post #158 of 197
Toshiba BDX2000 Blu-ray player Trusted Reviews review
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There was a time when the idea of a Blu-ray player bearing the Toshiba badge seemed as far fetched as Steven Gerrard signing for Everton, due to the company's die-hard dedication to its HD DVD format - which, in case you've been living on Saturn for the past five years, was the loser in the hi-def format war.

But things change, as they say, and here we are looking at the first results of Toshiba's decision to turn over to the Blu side earlier this year, a grudging yet inevitable move given the format's growing momentum.



The BDX2000 is a BD Live-enabled deck, which is light on the sort of frills we've enjoyed on the LG BD390 and OPPO BDP-831 but offers all the essentials for an eye-catching price, and provided there are no picture slip-ups this could be a decent Blu-ray baptism for the much-loved Japanese brand.

In the Blu-ray beauty pageant, the BDX2000 might not bag the tiara but certainly merits a sash and a bunch of flowers. It lacks the full-on wow factor of your Samsungs and Pioneers, but still possesses a glitzy charm that will look great underneath any TV. Toshiba has concealed all the clutter behind a beautiful smoked mirrored' drop-down front panel, which gently slopes forward to create a nice angular effect.



Behind it you'll find four playback buttons, an LED display panel that's a million times more useful than the one found on Toshiba's DVD players, and an SD card slot. We hoped the latter was included purely for media playback purposes but sadly not - it's also there to provide the required 1GB of memory for BD Live storage, which isn't built-in.

Rear-panel connectivity doesn't go beyond the basics - for video you get HDMI, component and composite outputs, and for audio you get analogue stereo and optical/coaxial digital outputs. But if you want to be transported to the hi-res promised land offered by Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio, you'll need an AV receiver equipped with HDMI inputs, as there are no multichannel analogue outs. The deck will kindly convert these formats to PCM if you wish (which is necessary when playing back BonusView picture-in-picture material) or if you do have an amp with HDMI v1.3 sockets and the relevant decoding, you can simply output the raw bitstream.



Next up is an Ethernet port, which is vital if you want to download or stream BD Live content, but this is an inconvenient and clumsy method of connecting to the web. LG's BD390 leads the way in terms of Internet connectivity with its built-in 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi module, and sadly the Toshiba feels archaic in comparison.

The same can be said about the BDX2000's media format support. It'll play MP3, WMA, JPEG and AVCHD from SD cards (8MB - 2GB), SDHC cards (up to 8GB) or disc, but that pales in comparison to the exhaustive list offered by the LG. It won't support DivX HD, MKV or AAC, which might not be of great importance to you but it does illustrate how some players are willing to go the extra mile to earn your hard-earned cash.

At least the BDX2000 doesn't overlook any of the basics. It will output Blu-ray video in its native 1080/24p format, which should result in judder-free playback on a compatible display, and will upscale DVDs to 1080p. But it's very disappointing to find that Toshiba hasn't included its XDE processing to enhance the DVD side of things - this impressive technology proved very successful on its XDE-600 DVD deck, and could have really given this player an advantage over similarly-priced Blu-ray players, but its absence is a missed opportunity. Hopefully we'll see it introduced into subsequent models.



As for the remaining features, fans of x.v.Colour, Deep Colour and Regza Link (we know you're out there) can breathe a huge sigh of relief with the news that all three are supported, while the presence of a two-stage Virtual Surround mode and Noise Reduction is sure to cause spontaneous outbursts of excitement among pockets of the AV community.

The onscreen interface is no great shakes but perfectly usable. Although the icons are jazzier and the general layout has been tweaked, the menu options and submenu structure are similar to the Marantz BD7004 we looked at recently, and by association some Denon players.

The setup menu is broken down into Custom, Quick and Initialise sections which is a tidy way of doing things, and makes it easy to find the option you're looking for. Network setup is easy if you've got a DHCP router as the IP address is assigned automatically, but even if you have to punch it in manually the menus make it pretty straightforward.



The display that appears when you hit the Mode button on the remote is also similar to the Marantz deck, although you don't get any picture adjustments. Everything is controlled by a dull yet functional remote, which is similar to Toshiba's DVD/HDD recorder zapper but with better button placement.

On the whole the BDX2000 isn't the slickest Blu-ray deck we've ever encountered. It's a bit sluggish to respond to some remote commands, particularly when pressing the Rev/Fwd keys or entering the setup menu - which, coincidentally, can't be accessed without stopping the movie first. It's also well down the rankings in terms of Blu-ray disc loading speed, taking around 30 seconds to even recognise the disc, then taking a further 30 to reach Spider-Man 3's Sony Pictures sting.

In terms of picture performance, though, the BDX2000 is most definitely up to scratch. Beautiful 1080p transfers like Spider-Man 3 are passed to the screen with all of their detail and luscious colour saturation intact, without any obvious problems.

The deck renders the image with an intense sharpness during bright scenes like Spidey's broad-daylight barneys with Sandman, but copes expertly with dark scenes too. Particularly impressive is the clarity it brings to the shot of Peter and Mary lying on a web in the woods, and when the alien gunk creeps onto the back of Peter's scooter, its inky blackness is starkly juxtaposed with the darkness surrounding it. Class.

To get a more objective perspective we loaded up the Silicon Optix Blu-ray and were very happy with the results. None of the tests caused it any major problems - it locked onto the cadence of the video resolution test straight away, rendered the jaggies test bars with smooth edges and dealt with video noise effectively. Only flickering on some of the boxes during the film resolution SMPTE pattern gave us any cause for concern, which funnily enough is the exactly the same problem that beset the Marantz BD7004.



It also does a respectable job of upscaling DVDs to 1080p, although as mentioned earlier the inclusion of XDE would have no doubt turned a good upscaling performance into a great one.

Digitally-transferred audio is problem-free and sounds superb through our test system, and when using the stereo outputs to play music, there are no complaints with the well-balanced sound on offer.

When all is said and done, we can't help feeling a little underwhelmed by the BDX2000. Perhaps it was unreasonable to expect something earth shattering given Toshiba's relatively late entry into the Blu-ray game, but even still we expected something more compelling than the unremarkable deck we have here.

Verdict

Don't get us wrong; when it comes to the core Blu-ray player duties there's nothing particularly wrong with the BDX2000 - it delivers crisp pristine hi-def pictures to your TV, plays the main digital media formats via SD card and sports an agreeable operating system.

But while the lack of exciting features like Wi-Fi and web streaming is forgiveable, particularly as the Toshiba BDX2000 is some £50 cheaper than the LG BD390, the big disappointments are its sluggish load and reaction times and that it didn't come equipped with XDE, the inclusion of which should have been a no-brainer.

So not a memorable entree into the world of Blu-ray from the inventor of HD DVD, but maybe it has something special up its sleeve for future generations. A Net Player/Blu-ray combi perhaps? Let's hope so.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-c...-ray-Player/p1

Roberto
post #159 of 197
Excellent review. I am glad you found it. Basically, it tells it like it is and confirms my impressions. I bought mine for $79 shipped and at that price it simply can't be beat.

I found it has few real bells and whistles, as explained in the article, but because this player is in the bedroom with my 37" Toshiba lcd, I only want something to play a movie now and then and don't need all the other stuff. My main dvd players (Panasonic for blu-ray and OPPO 720p unconverter for regular dvds) are in the den hooked up to my Onkyo receiver, and then on to my Epson 1080p projector. In that set-up, I am not sure the Toshiba would satisfy me. But for my intended use and considering the price I paid for it, I vote this player to be the best blu-ray bargain of 2009.
post #160 of 197
^^^^^^^^

It mainly looks like you were waiting for a low price point BUT there have been MANY bargain prices for 2009. The Panny BD60 was $109 shipped a short time ago and the Pioneer BDP 23FD $299 at Best Buy around Black Friday for examples. Many others as well but those two are FANTASTIC bargains IMHO.

May I ask what other players you tried to lead to a conclusion this is the best bargain???
post #161 of 197
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Originally Posted by robertc88 View Post

^^^^^^^^

It mainly looks like you were waiting for a low price point BUT there have been MANY bargain prices for 2009. The Panny BD60 was $109 shipped a short time ago and the Pioneer BDP 23FD $299 at Best Buy around Black Friday for examples. Many others as well but those two are FANTASTIC bargains IMHO.

May I ask what other players you tried to lead to a conclusion this is the best bargain???

Yes, that price for the BD60 is good (I really don't know anything about the Pioneer). As I said before in a previous post, I think it is the best bargain for my use, which is as a Blu-Ray player for the bedroom. I have a Panny 35 that I have had a year or so that is my main home theater player. The Panny is hooked up to my Onkyo receiver and then on to my Epson 1080p LCD projector. I could not be happier with it.

The reasons I gave before in a earlier post as to why I think this player is a great bargain are still the same, even now that I've had it and used it quite a bit for a couple months. It is a name brand player from a reputable company that I trust. I have had Toshiba products in the past, including two HD tvs, and I have never had a single problem with any of them. In fact, the lcd I have hooked up to this player is a Toshiba. I don't use Netflex or need wifi capability of any kind so the bells an whistles on other players I simply don't care for.

The upconversion on SD disks is not bad although I still use my OPPO for that so my only concern for the Toshiba is Blu-Ray. For that, I could not be happier. Load times are not too bad (faster than the Panny) and I can't ask for a better picture. I only use the tv speakers (it is in my bedroom after all) so the sound reproduction is not a factor as it is in my home theater room. I find the remote okay but then again I am laying in my bed looking right at the tv so how sensitive the remote is is also a non factor - for me. A happy bonus is the ability to take my mp3s that I have downloaded on SD cards and play them through the Toshiba. I can also do the same with my OPPO and it takes pen drives.

But the bottom line is indeed the bottom line. Where else can someone buy a newly introduced, brand new Blu-Ray player from a major electronics company for $79? If you desire more features there are other players out there that have them but you must pay more, much more. But I don't need those features nor do a lot people, and that is why I considered it among the best electronics bargains of 2009.
post #162 of 197
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But the bottom line is indeed the bottom line. Where else can someone buy a newly introduced, brand new Blu-Ray player from a major electronics company for $79? If you desire more features there are other players out there that have them but you must pay more, much more. But I don't need those features nor do a lot people, and that is why I considered it among the best electronics bargains of 2009.

milacqua and I both grabbed this the morning of Black Friday for $79.97 from Amazon.com. At that price it was absolutely the best bargain for a Blu-Ray player that day. Solid, proven mechanicals from Funai (who builds it for Toshiba), a sharp BR image quality, decent audio, and profile 2.0 for that price really can't be beat. The Panny is nice, but I would rather have the $30 in my pocket since the Tosh does exactly what I want/need it to do. I have two very good DVD players I'll continue to use for SD-DVD upconversion (Oppo DV-981HD and a Toshiba XDE-600) and the BDX2000 is perfect for BR playback.
post #163 of 197
Hi all,

Best buy had these for free if you bought a Toshiba Regza LCD. My questions is when I put in the movie Bolt to test it out it will play all of the previews but when it comes to loading the menu so you can choose to play the movie it reverts to stopping. Any ideas? Thanks
post #164 of 197
I've read the whole thread and haven't seen this asked before so here goes:

Is there anything special i need to do to play divx files from a memory card. I know my manual says that this isn't supported, but I've seen many reports form people on the internet that divx works fine off the sd card (not xvid though).

Are there multiple versions of this player (mine came from amazon)? Are there newer firmwares available that enable/disable this feature?

Thanks in advance
post #165 of 197
just ran the toshiba through my battery of tests:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1156535
mini review to be posted shortly.
post #166 of 197
post #167 of 197
re: HD DVD is dead
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

HDDVD is dead.

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Originally Posted by Blasst View Post

Very close, but not yet..... at least one more NEW title coming out next month.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._HD-DVD!!/3382

Yeah, and last summer Cheap Trick released a new album on 8-track too.

http://boingboing.net/2009/07/05/che...-releases.html

It's a gimmick for publicity, not a serious effort. "Deadlands 2"? Yeah, that will revive the HD DVD format.


I'm reading through this thread because I have a Best Buy gift card burning a hole in my pocket and I'm trying to decide between this fake Toshiba model and the Insignia NS-BRDVD3 (which I think is made by Samsung?). Both are currently $129.
post #168 of 197
Yes it is but what bugs me is there are A LOT of HD-DVD's out there people paid good money for that are essentially coasters if there isn't anyway to play them. Toshiba could - but probably won't - throw a bone to their loyal customers and add it to their first in house unit. I can't imagine it would cost them much as they own the license to the tech so that money is saved. It would differentiate their players from all of the others in the field and HD-DVD disc owners would immediately gravitate to it. They would potentially have a guaranteed customer base of the approx 1,000,000 plus people that...chose poorly...But who know then that the one with the half baked technology on release would beat the format that was pretty much ready at the gate.

I always thought that if MS had included the HD-DVD player with the 360, things could have been a bit more interesting.
post #169 of 197
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Originally Posted by joeytino View Post

But who know then that the one with the half baked technology on release would beat the format that was pretty much ready at the gate.

I always thought that if MS had included the HD-DVD player with the 360, things could have been a bit more interesting.

In hindsight, I think Sony always had the edge because they also own a studio. That was what finally decided it - a majority of studios said they were going Blu-Ray only. And they trusted Sony to protect their "digital rights" (stop piracy), since they also had movies at stake.

You are right, however, HD-DVD was technically better at launch. But Sony was on the other end with the VHS vs Beta wars, which I lived through. In video stores, beta movies on one side and VHS on the other. Beta was technically better. Yet, when that ended, Sony gamely made VHS players like everyone else. The people who bought beta movies -- tough.

That's why so many people stayed on the fence until the Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD war was over. And until the price came down. I work in TV and I own a Sony 60" HDTV, but I was not buying a Blu-Ray player until prices came down. Sony and others hurt themselves by immediately jacking prices UP after Toshiba conceded and pulled the plug on HD-DVD.

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After doing a week of research, I think I'm going with the Insignia NS-BRDVD3 Blu-Ray player over this Toshiba. They're both the same price at Best Buy this week. As the Toshiba BDX2000 isn't really made by Toshiba, it's really the battle of the no-names on the bottom tier. The Insignia (made by the same factory that makes LG and Samsung Blu-Ray players) has more features like Netflix streaming (although I am not a Netflix customer). The quality for both seems about the same (nothing to really brag about), so the one with the most features wins as it's less "bare bones" than the Toshiba.
post #170 of 197
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Originally Posted by joeytino View Post

Yes it is but what bugs me is there are A LOT of HD-DVD's out there people paid good money for that are essentially coasters if there isn't anyway to play them. Toshiba could - but probably won't - throw a bone to their loyal customers and add it to their first in house unit. I can't imagine it would cost them much as they own the license to the tech so that money is saved. It would differentiate their players from all of the others in the field and HD-DVD disc owners would immediately gravitate to it. They would potentially have a guaranteed customer base of the approx 1,000,000 plus people that...chose poorly...But who know then that the one with the half baked technology on release would beat the format that was pretty much ready at the gate.

I always thought that if MS had included the HD-DVD player with the 360, things could have been a bit more interesting.

Discussed to death early in this topic. Please go back and review the posts.
post #171 of 197
Hi,
My girlfriend just bought a Toshiba BDX2000 (really-- it wasn't me, so don't blame the sender!). All is OK, but none of the IR codes listed in my RCA Universal Remote manual will operate it. Does anyone know the 4 digit code for this Blu-Day?
Thanks,
Ken
post #172 of 197
Thinking about buying this player. Are any of you having any new problems with this player?


Also does anybody know when the new line of players will be released?
post #173 of 197
I wouldnt buy it unless you can get a really good deal on it , i bought it for 79.99.

It is really slow loading movies and the remote is weak , but other than that it works fine.
post #174 of 197
i have had no major problems.. first blue ray so I cant say if its quick or not with movies.. the remote is weak - however, I transferred it to my mx-650 and the remote is fine now

I paid $79 for it as well.. I have seen some with netflix streaming for $99 - might want to look at those.
post #175 of 197
help please....has anyone seen this too? i have this bd player. it is connected to my onkyo sr607 via hdmi that is then connected via hdmi to a toshiba 56mx195 dlp hdtv which is 1080p capable. i have read the directions carefully several times and feel that everything is set up correctly.

the problem i am having is passing through a 1080p signal to my tv. i tried to bypass the onkyo and the same thing. when i goto the hdmi resolution setting, i see that 1080p and 1080p24 are greyed out. i cannot select them. the hdmi deep color setting is also greyed out. my tv says the signal is coming through as 1080i.

this is the first 1080p capable device i have connected to my tv. i am using a spears and munsil calibration blu ray as my video source on this blu ray player. do i have a setting wrong preventing 1080p playback???
post #176 of 197
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Originally Posted by bubba25 View Post

help please....has anyone seen this too? i have this bd player. it is connected to my onkyo sr607 via hdmi that is then connected via hdmi to a toshiba 56mx195 dlp hdtv which is 1080p capable. i have read the directions carefully several times and feel that everything is set up correctly.

the problem i am having is passing through a 1080p signal to my tv. i tried to bypass the onkyo and the same thing. when i goto the hdmi resolution setting, i see that 1080p and 1080p24 are greyed out. i cannot select them. the hdmi deep color setting is also greyed out. my tv says the signal is coming through as 1080i.

this is the first 1080p capable device i have connected to my tv. i am using a spears and munsil calibration blu ray as my video source on this blu ray player. do i have a setting wrong preventing 1080p playback???


forget it, i feel duped. although my tv was advertised as being 1080p capable, it really isn't. of well, it will last me a few more years then i will get 3D.
post #177 of 197
OK, I won a BDX2000 at an auction and since I didn't have a blue ray player, this is great. But anyone know of a link to update the software? I can't find it anywhere. I know I have to dump it on a cd to update it,
thanks, brettw
post #178 of 197
as far as I know there is no firmware update yet.
post #179 of 197
re: SD / SDHC cards

toshiba says that it requires an SD card of 1GB, fine. how LARGE an SDHC card can it support?

would any users be able to tell us please if a larger SDHC card can possibly have any benefits? or would most of it be wasted as the Toshiba player can only recognize and use 1GB? as in certain digital cameras, sometimes, their firmware is only set to recognize up to a certain sized SD card.

thx in advance!
post #180 of 197
Just got it at frys for $130 and thought it was cheap, didn't really do any research on players because I just got some new speakers and was in a rush to get a player to test it out. In any case I connected it to the new yamaha v665 I got for my folks and this player can't seem to bitstream the audio. Whenever I select bitstream I would get absolutely nothing. I didn't have alot of time to play around with the receiver either because it was all in a rush on a free day i had on the weekday.

On the v665 all it shows is HDMI, not DTS/DD or DTS HD etc, i can't even tell what format the sound is being output. I'll probably have to return it and get something else, it just feels so cheap and junkie, especially the remote and the menu, it's honestly a confusing menu.
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