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post #61 of 197
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Yeah I saw this player in Best Buy too today.
post #62 of 197
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Originally Posted by levy07 View Post

Bought one today for $199 at Best Buy.

What is your initial impression and do you own another BD player?
post #63 of 197
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Originally Posted by robertc88 View Post

What is your initial impression and do you own another BD player?

especially curious to hear from owners of other funai built players if the basics (ie gui) are the same. it appears to be the main funai grunt re-badged by a number of other ce's.
post #64 of 197
Yes, more info about this player would be great!
post #65 of 197
Very interested also, if it comes close to performing like the XA2 I am all over it.
post #66 of 197
OK, so it is sourced. That's the way of the world. Question is, good value , good reliability, or not? ( sounds like the same deck is branded Magnavox for less, but external layout does not always tell the answers. Sourced products are built to a spec. The spec may be a logo, it may be more or less. Is the remote compatible with my 2 Toshiba LCD's?
Is there a well known recommendation in this price range?
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post #68 of 197
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Originally Posted by bori View Post

Very interested also, if it comes close to performing like the XA2 I am all over it.

It will not be close to the XA2. It is a rebadged unit. It is essentially a basic profile 2.0 player that just happens to have TOSHIBA on the face plate. See below....

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Originally Posted by tvrgeek View Post

OK, so it is sourced. That's the way of the world. Question is, good value , good reliability, or not? ( sounds like the same deck is branded Magnavox for less, but external layout does not always tell the answers. Sourced products are built to a spec. The spec may be a logo, it may be more or less. Is the remote compatible with my 2 Toshiba LCD's?
Is there a well known recommendation in this price range?

The only reason (IMO) that one would buy this player is to match it to Toshiba's Regza lineup of TVs and use the Regza link.

You can get players that have more features for the same or less money than this Toshiba. The only reason to buy it would be to match it to other Toshiba gear.

You get more for your money via the LG BD370 or the Samsung 1600, or even the Insignia models.
post #69 of 197
BD Live 2.0 and 7.1 audio though is pretty good for the price at the time of release.

http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewConte...5087843&EDATE=

The Vizio looks interesting for the price as well.

I guess Winston didn't get to these two yet!
post #70 of 197
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Originally Posted by tvrgeek View Post

OK, so it is sourced. That's the way of the world. Question is, good value , good reliability, or not? ( sounds like the same deck is branded Magnavox for less, but external layout does not always tell the answers. Sourced products are built to a spec. The spec may be a logo, it may be more or less. Is the remote compatible with my 2 Toshiba LCD's?
Is there a well known recommendation in this price range?

Yes, it will have good reliability. Funai has been making good quality products lately.
post #71 of 197
Now every single company which was previously associated with HD DVD has moved on. I don't understand why there are still people on Internet forums who demand it's resurrection, just look at the pathetic "official" CBHD players thread in the dead format's forum. It's over, let it go, this isn't like laserdisc which lived for decades as a niche format, it's not even like Betamax which lived on as a professional format, HD DVD is dead, period.
post #72 of 197
Until they stick the XDE feature in a Blu-Ray I'm not buying it. I have an XDE 600 and the SD DVD upscaling with the "sharp" is great - rivaling an Oppo DV-980H.
post #73 of 197
Well, I got mine. Wasn't about to spend more than $200 for the bedroom.

Clean unit, like the SD slot option for BD-Live on the front. No slower than the others on disk load.

BD's look and work great. DVD's look and work great. Actually had a rented DVD get stuck on my Yamaha BD player downstairs. Worked fine on the Toshiba.

Good BD player for a spare room for lack of Nextflix or other useful features provided by similar priced units or if you don't want all that stuff.

Remote is in the bottom drawer. Works just fine with my Harmony remotes.

Its $200 bucks and it actually works, unlike some other door stops that have been put out in this price range. Don't expect it to make you breakfast.
post #74 of 197
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Originally Posted by robertc88 View Post

What is your initial impression and do you own another BD player?

The Toshiba plays Blu Rays as well as my Oppo BDP-83 but dvd's are better on the Oppo. The load times on the Toshiba are pretty good too. I wish hdmi output 480i so I couldjust let my DVDO VP30 upscale dvds. The best thing about this player though is the novelty of seeing Toshiba Blu Ray.
post #75 of 197
How would you guys rate the build quality?
post #76 of 197
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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

Now every single company which was previously associated with HD DVD has moved on. I don't understand why there are still people on Internet forums who demand it's resurrection, just look at the pathetic "official" CBHD players thread in the dead format's forum. It's over, let it go, this isn't like laserdisc which lived for decades as a niche format, it's not even like Betamax which lived on as a professional format, HD DVD is dead, period.

Toshiba just rebadged the unit so they can sell it with their Regza's this Holiday season. They didn't "move on" they just fell under the pressure from retailers who won't carry their TVs unless they can pair it with a BD player from the same CE. That's why the unit is so basic and boring. They don't care.
post #77 of 197
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post

That's why the unit is so basic and boring. They don't care.

Major CE companies go with ODM units due to lack of resources or inability to compete cost-effectively. Many of those that don't use ODMs now are planning on using them next year except for their high-end models.
post #78 of 197
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How would you guys rate the build quality?

I would say its feels less flimsy then the Samsungs. If that makes sense.
post #79 of 197
Took mine back. Audio on the TOSLINK output was distorted badly. Picture quality was not very good either. To add an insult, the CEC link did not work with my TOSHIBA TV's.

Assessment: junk. Bought a Panasonic. Better picture. Sound OK. Keeps losing's mind so it may be going back too.
post #80 of 197
this seems to be the only dvd blu ray player at or around 200.00 that offers wma(cd playback)anyone one know of another player ?
post #81 of 197
I notice that Best Buy is now giving these away "free" with Toshiba HDTV's above $1000.

Amazon also is selling them now for $152 but still not moving many.

How good is this machine? Are there any reviews?

[I still think that Toshiba missed in not putting their upscaling and a universal streamer into their Blu-ray player. Toshiba could have been a player too!]
post #82 of 197
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Originally Posted by SlaughterX View Post

No HD-DVD playback no buy!

Fortunately, Toshiba appears to be a lot smarter than the people on this thread saying the BDX-2000 should include HD DVD support.

One can be pretty much guarranteed that including the additional cost (development, manufacture, support) for HD DVD would have simultaneously largely limited their sales to current HD DVD disc owners (the harder core of which probably wouldn't buy since they already own at least one HD DVD player, probably more).

Instead, they can offer a nice looking and normal featured 2.0 player that's much more likely to appeal to the more typical consumer, and can be readily discounted and bundled. Darn good thinking in my view!
post #83 of 197
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Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post

It will not be close to the XA2. It is a rebadged unit. It is essentially a basic profile 2.0 player that just happens to have TOSHIBA on the face plate. See below....



The only reason (IMO) that one would buy this player is to match it to Toshiba's Regza lineup of TVs and use the Regza link.

You can get players that have more features for the same or less money than this Toshiba. The only reason to buy it would be to match it to other Toshiba gear.

You get more for your money via the LG BD370 or the Samsung 1600, or even the Insignia models.

So I see at CC online you can get this and their 40" TV for $750. This seemed like a good deal, but it seems like no one here is that impressed with it. So what are the advantages of matching it to the Regza TV? Would that make picture quality better than on any other TV?

Thanks
post #84 of 197
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

Fortunately, Toshiba appears to be a lot smarter than the people on this thread saying the BDX-2000 should include HD DVD support.

One can be pretty much guarranteed that including the additional cost (development, manufacture, support) for HD DVD would have simultaneously largely limited their sales to current HD DVD disc owners (the harder core of which probably wouldn't buy since they already own at least one HD DVD player, probably more).

Instead, they can offer a nice looking and normal featured 2.0 player that's much more likely to appeal to the more typical consumer, and can be readily discounted and bundled. Darn good thinking in my view!

I think there are still many people, including myself, that would be interested in a combo player. I currently have a Samsung BD-UP5000 that I am still happy with. Once that fails I won't be able to replace it. If Toshiba released a high quality player, like the XA2, that played both BR and HD DVD I am sure there would be a lot of interest in it. Keep in mind that there was over 1 million HD DVD players sold. There are plenty of those people that would love to have a universal player for all their discs. The BD-UP5000 is a great player but Samsung has really dropped the ball with firmware upgrades. It has the same capability of the 2500/2550 but Samsung hasn't give the 5000 DTS Master decoding or streaming.

It wouldn't cost Toshiba much if any more money to do this. The HD DVD development is already done and no new discs are being released. So they wouldn't have to spend anytime on it. I agree with most here that Toshiba is releasing this player just to have something to bundle with their TVs for this season. I am willing to bet they will release a high end player that they design and it will include HD DVD support. Of course I could be wrong...
post #85 of 197
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

... I am willing to bet they will release a high end player that they design and it will include HD DVD support. Of course I could be wrong...

I will take that bet.

HD DVD is dead. Toshiba said so themselves, a long time ago. The industry has moved on.
post #86 of 197
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Originally Posted by Holderman View Post

So I see at CC online you can get this and their 40" TV for $750. This seemed like a good deal, but it seems like no one here is that impressed with it. So what are the advantages of matching it to the Regza TV? Would that make picture quality better than on any other TV?

Thanks

You can use the same remote (e.g. Regza link).

That's about it.
post #87 of 197
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Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post

I will take that bet.

HD DVD is dead. Toshiba said so themselves, a long time ago. The industry has moved on.

I understand that. I am looking at it from a marketing point of view. Right now just about every BR player is the same. The more expensive ones have wireless, more streaming, can play more formats from a usb drive, etc but they are all very similar. Toshiba could release a player that also plays the known to be dead HD DVD format and have a product that no one else has. If they did that with the SD picture quality of the XA2, streaming of netflix, you tube, etc, and it played most formats people are putting on USB devices then they would have a killer player that no other company offered.

In order to do that Toshiba would have to spend a lot of money developing the BR and streaming part. HD DVD is already fully developed and would cost them next to nothing to include it.
post #88 of 197
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I understand that. I am looking at it from a marketing point of view. Right now just about every BR player is the same. The more expensive ones have wireless, more streaming, can play more formats from a usb drive, etc but they are all very similar. Toshiba could release a player that also plays the known to be dead HD DVD format and have a product that no one else has. If they did that with the SD picture quality of the XA2, streaming of netflix, you tube, etc, and it played most formats people are putting on USB devices then they would have a killer player that no other company offered.

In order to do that Toshiba would have to spend a lot of money developing the BR and streaming part. HD DVD is already fully developed and would cost them next to nothing to include it.


You are assuming it is just simply software additions. The physical spec of HD DVD disc are different from BD that it is not trivial. Sure other companies have done it, but at this point it is not worth the hassle to appease a few diehards that have not moved on. HD DVD is coming up on two years since the Warner announcement. Sure it was supported another six months, but even 18 months in the CE industry is a lifetime.

It's dead... you won't see a new product support it... move on.

Really I thought all those diehards were going to skip BD in favor of streaming anyways... Funny how some want both as to wear the badge of honor for fighting the good fight.
post #89 of 197
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Originally Posted by Toknowshita View Post

You are assuming it is just simply software additions. The physical spec of HD DVD disc are different from BD that it is not trivial. Sure other companies have done it, but at this point it is not worth the hassle to appease a few diehards that have not moved on. HD DVD is coming up on two years since the Warner announcement. Sure it was supported another six months, but even 18 months in the CE industry is a lifetime.

It's dead... you won't see a new product support it... move on.

Really I thought all those diehards were going to skip BD in favor of streaming anyways... Funny how some want both as to wear the badge of honor for fighting the good fight.

I have moved on. I just ordered my second BR stand alone player. I just thought it would be a good idea for Toshiba. Support those customers that bought into HD DVD and offer something no one else has. What the hell do I know...
post #90 of 197
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Originally Posted by Toknowshita View Post

You are assuming it is just simply software additions. The physical spec of HD DVD disc are different from BD that it is not trivial.

And I would imagine that the software and hardware engineers have been put on other projects for quite some time now...
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