Lutrons RadioRA2 - Page 12

Sorryn jgvp, I had just assumed you were at Best Buy/Magnolia. Talk to some other, perhaps more knowledgable, professional custom integrators.

Prob a bunch in your area.

I know it's stereotyping, but I don't consider salesmen from Best Buy, or any other big box stores, as experienced, generally, as the pros.

Quoted for truth! Went to my local, recently renovated Magnolia and they said their shades were "Levitron".

Hi Neurorad:

When it comes to anything Audio/Video or any electronic equipment of any kind, the Best Buys and the Future Shops are the last stores I would even entertain being involved with. My local A/V establishment happens to be equipped from top to bottom with leading edge merchandise and is actually a converted house with everything displayed as it would be installed in your own home. You can't help but salivate when you see it displayed and demonstrated just as it would be in your own home.

I'll have to search around for who would be knowledgable, professional custom integrators in my area. Thanks for the info' anyway.

C4 seems to be the standard at BB/Magnolia, wrongly assumed, sorry.

Anyone know when the RA2 Appliance Module will ship? Was hoping it would arrive for Christmas.

And what about the HVAC controller? When will that be available?

Looks like I have to resort to asking advice on this one here as I've had no response from Lutron Service.

I have this double wall switch arrangement in the bedroom where one switch is for the bedside table lamps and quite frankly I'm darned if I can find what function the other switch performs. Because of that fact, I bought a Maestro IR switch for the lamps even though it was single pole, which was the only kind the local Home Depot sells anyway. I still maintain the switch is not 3-way for while it is in the same box it is not connected in any way with the other, ( but then I have never been able to get my head around electricity when it become more involved.)

I phoned Lutron on Monday and the guy left me to sort out by elimination the two wires that would be combined for one of two screws on the dimmer. The lights worked but the LEDs didn't and the remote did not function. So Tuesday I called Lutron again and one suggestion was to see if it worked without the black wire and if that failed then to buy a 3-way Maestro IR. Well, it didn't so I wrote to Lutron to ask that since the second switch didn't appear to serve any purpose, could I eliminate it and what was the best way to achieve this. I haven't heard anything back in response, so now I am thinking that maybe Lutron isn't the best way for me to go the "whole house" route after all and that's after using Lutron dimmers, switches and outlets for three rooms in my house so far.

If this isn't the right place to acquire this kind of assistance, please direct me to where this should be directed. Thanks again.

Sounds like a question related to switch/dimmer wiring, and not RA2.

I suggest you start a new thread in the HA subforum.

Perhaps it is a switched outlet. Make sure you check both outlets, they could be split.

I doubt that, jkv, for both two outlets, both top and bottom, are not affected at all by the switch. If anything, as pointed out by others, it must be serving a ceiling light but there's no disc in the ceiling. That reasoning is also bolstered by the fact that there is a similar switch at the top of the staircase on the bedroom landing wall facing that doesn't appear to affect anything except a ceiling light, but again there's no ceiling disc and all the three lights are operated by a Lutron dimmer. The electrician must have been overly considerate, but the more I think of it, you would have thought the building inspector would have queried the lack of ceiling discs to cover the wiring, if in fact there ever was any in both cases. Thanks anyway.

It's not RA2 it is a maestro ir

Did you check to see if 120v were at the switch?

I don't follow, Fiasco. Do you mean the actual current ? If you did, everything else attached to those two switches are functioning as before. I've dispensed with the Maestro MIR600 at this location and will look for a spot where a single pole MIRT600 will perform OK. Thanks for your interest.

You said you couldn't locate the load operated by the switch.

First use a voltmeter check for the 120v line wire. Measure between each switch wire to ground. One should give 120v w/ the other being the load.

For those of you researching and considering RA2 Systems The most economical way to purchase them is in Packages (if they fit into your scheme), they now have 7 Packages but they are not listed on their site(Packages are only available in White, wall devices only are in Gloss White, Table Lamps Dimmers in Midnight(Satin Black) and Tabletop Keypads in Snow(Satin White)). The savings typically equate to a free dimmer in the single packages and a free keypad in the larger ones. Listed below are the packages and contents of each. Please message or email if you are interested or call you local RA2 specialist...

RR-SINGLE-HT-WH:

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(1) RRD-W6BRL-WH

(3) RRD-6D-WH

(1) RD-RD-WH



RR-SINGLE-HT2-WH:

(1) RD-RD-WH

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(1) RRD-3LD-MN

(3) RRD-6D-WH

(1) RRD-W6BRL-WH



RR-SINGLE-PLS-WH:

(2) RD-RD-WH

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(1) RRD-10D-WH

(1) RRD-3LD-MN

(4) RRD-6D-WH

(2) RRD-H6BRL-WH



RR-SINGLE-STR-WH:

(1) RD-RD-WH

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(3) RRD-6D-WH

(1) RRD-H6BRL-WH



RR-MULTI-F-WH:

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(1) RR-AUX-REP-WH

(1) RR-VCRX-WH

(3) RRD-W6BRL-WH

(2) RR-T10RL-SW

(1) RR-T15RL-SW

(7) RRD-6D-WH

(3) RRD-10D-WH

(3) RD-RD-WH

(2) LR-3B-H-SW



RR-MULTI-FDN-WH:

(2) LR-3B-H-SW

(3) RD-RD-WH

(1) RR-AUX-REP-WH

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(2) RR-T10RL-SW

(1) RR-VCRX-WH

(2) RRD-10D-WH

(2) RRD-3LD-MN

(6) RRD-6D-WH

(2) RRD-H6BRL-WH

(1) RRD-W6BRL-WH



RR-MULTI-F2-WH:

(2) LR-3B-H-SW

(3) RD-RD-WH

(1) RR-AUX-REP-WH

(1) RR-MAIN-REP-WH

(2) RR-T10RL-SW

(1) RR-VCRX-WH

(3) RRD-10D-WH

(2) RRD-3LD-MN

(7) RRD-6D-WH

(2) RRD-W6BRL-WH

This info has been passed down straight from Lutron as of Dec. 2010, however they have not yet been published so parts/pricing may change....

Also, Color change kits are available for all devices and keypads, you can also change color(wall keypads only) of the keypads when you do the engraving (all RA2 Keypads come with prepaid engraving). Engraving only applies to the buttons so tabletop keypads cannot be color changed

Does anyone know the prices for RadioRa2 packages referenced above? I understand they are better than purchasing separately.

Thanks!

Has there been any updates from Lutron on the seeTemp devices for HVAC control? They announced them last year but I've yet to hear anything about availability. There are supposed to be three components: a seeTemp keypad for display and control, a battery-powered temp sensor that can be placed anywhere, and an HVAC controller that connects to the furnace for actual control of the HVAC. Last i heard was April availability. Does anyone have any updates from the factory?

I don't know about the rest of you, but even being an EVAD we do not get dates or projections from Lutron, sometimes the mention a quarter for new releases, but usually they run behind. Many times it's a days or weeks until we know as they don't run 'press releases' or announcements except in trade publications.

I have a alot of people eagerly awaiting this one, I suspect April/May but it's purely a guess based on the Lutron people we've spoken with...

I'll post up as soon as I know.....

I'm pretty sure this has been asked before but I don't recall seeing an answer. Is there any way to back up and restore the Lutron configuration database?

Ive heard from my dealer that they just release their hvac thermostat.

copy the .lut or .lutx file to a thumb drive.

I don't think you can pull a configuration from the main repeater if that was the question. Finally, HVAC stuff should be here next week....

That simple? So why do they use SQL Server for running everything? Don't really need an answer to that, I suspect I know the answer, but seems a bit of overkill...

I've heard they are working on being able to pull the file from the repeater, but at this point if you didn't create it or the homeowner wasn't given a copy you're stuck...

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Lutron has finally announced the release of the seeTemp thermostat set for Radio Ra2. Most of you probably already got the email from Lutron, as did I. In it you may have found links and instructions to a webinar that isn't where it is supposed to be. If you follow the link (Click Here) you will need to login or register for first time users, then enter the Pin code' = RADIORA2, Then you will find a webinar called Lutron seeTemp Overview for RadioRa2', and click launch. In the email it called out webinars 2011 but I couldn't find it by that name.

Here is a summary to answer most immediate questions:

Basically it will replace most standard 24vac thermostats. There is a pre-qualification checklist on the webinar to see if your system will work with the seeTemp system.

There are 3 basic components:
1. SeeTemp Wall Control (I'll call a keypad, because basically that's all it is - Powers from 120vac or 24vac, can gang with other switches/dimmers/devices)
2. Remote Battery Powered Temperature sensor (Self Explanatory - Placement is key as adverse temperature from exterior walls, other devices, direct sunlight or shading from cabinets, doors etc.. can affect how well this will work - multiple sensors are averaged together to one controller)
3. Controller (multiple controller & sensors can be used for Zoned' systems, The controller(s) will go at the HVAC and in range of the RA2 system)

The wall station is not required if you are using and I-something (phone/pad/touch) or now android. Or if you plan a more complicated integration with 3rd party touch screens. Software version 4.1.xx is required.

The tutorial on the webinar is really boring, but probably great over view on HVAC. If you are not familiar with HVAC, I recommend you watch it all.

We have an initial order placed and several requests. We have yet to get exact pricing but from the webinar list pricing is:
seeTemp Wall control [LRD-WST-F (or C)-XX(Color) ] $199.00
see Temp Wireless Temperature Sensor [LRF2-TWRB-SW (or MN) only snow white or midnight black] $120.00
Thermostat Package [LR-HVAC-PKG-WH (1ea, wall control, sensor, HVAC controller ~ White only)] $599.00
Integration Package [LR-HVAC-INT-SW(or MN) (HVAC controller & Sensor only)] $449.00

For those of you that have placed orders with us, you know we offer a hefty discount of LIST pricing, have the best RA2 pricing, and great support. Please contact me for a quote if you are interested.

Other usefull seeTemp Links:

Lutron Thermostat Brochure
FAQs
HVAC Specification Sheet
Wireless Temperature Sensor Installation Guide
seeTemp Wall Control Installation Guide
HVAC Controller Installation Guide
Thermostat Integration Protcol

Also, 1st Android version is now available for Radio RA2:

Android market

I wonder why they issued a pin code for the webinar if you are going to post it...

A number of times now, i have created systems for people on one computer and
then moved just the .lut file to a different machine, and everything works great.

You still have to walk around the house to get the repeater to find all the devices.

If you are looking to extract a setup from an already installed repeater, this
may or may not be possible especially with slave devices like the occupancy
detectors and visor receivers attached. The xml file you can extract has a lot
of the information, but not necessarily all of it. If you know what all the buttons
do on the keypads, you can recreate the setup yourself once you get a copy
of the software. I have already done this once because a previous installer
disappeared. Took about 2 hours to totally recreate the system from scratch.

At a minimum demand that the installer leave you a copy of the .lut or .lutx file.

Using microsoft sql server to manage this is a very over the top, but easy
from a programmer point of view to make this all work easily.
A standalone access runtime would have been a bit easier and less cpu
and ram intensive.

Not having humidity control is a bit of a disappointment. There are other programmable thermostats on the market that can do both HVAC and humidity from a single controller. Of course, they don't have some other the other features.

@kevin, sure you know this but for those that don't the initial 'walk around' device activation is facilitated with a wifi setup & laptop. If you are wired(network) to your main repeater to a desktop you will get some exercise...

& yes, if you have the files no-problem unless they are really old and you have newer software version. There have been some upgrading problems. & then yes you have to start over...

regardless, the programming is very user friendly/intuitive...

Anything to make a buck. Probably distributes the software too.