Lutrons RadioRA2 - Page 15

Of course, having each pair of flood lights at each location have their own 8ans switch solves the problem but is pretty pricey. I think perhaps if I connect a few of the pairs, I can reduce the number of 8ans switches and make the cost reasonable. There is no reason I can't have, say, 3 pairs of lights come on together--one end of the house for example. And, gang the other end of the house together--maybe do the whole thing with 3 8ans switches.
I think we have solved this one. THanks. R

I have a split level entry with a 3 way switch at the entry way and at the top of the stairs controlling two lights. I replaced one of the lights with a ceiling fan/light combo but now I cannot leave the fan running without having the other light on. I really like the Lutron switches and have been considering starting an RA2 system but I do not understand why with an RF system the remote switch still requires one of the traveller wires to be used for communications. Since I want to convert one of the traveller wires to be an always hot wire for the fan this wouldn't work with my existing wiring. And it's a vaulted ceiling so there is no attic access to change the wiring. Does RA2 have a solution for this? Would using a keypad instead of a remote switch be the answer?

Thanks

Break the 3-way. Non hybrid keypad at stair base. 1 dimmer (lights) at top of stairs 1 8ans switch (or wait for fan controller) at top or bottom of stairs. Use your two travelers for switch legs. No need for a remote dimmer or switch.

The remote dimmer is essentially a "dumb" dimmer. It does not actually control the lighting load, it only tells the real dimmer it is 3-way'd with what to do.

So just started to look into home automation. I would like to start with my home theater. what i want is to control my pot lights with my ipad. I understand Radiora is capable of this. What I don't understand is what equipment I need. Right now I have three zones, each with 6 pot lights. Can I just replace present manual dimmers with Lutron radiora dimmers, if so what model. Or do I need repeaters as well. Please give me a hand in this basic setup.

Probably 3 rrd-rd dimmers and a rr-main-rep repeater.

You won't be able to do anything but shoe leather programming without the software and it is not available to end users.

Well, the system begins by installing a Main Repeater, and at least one device, so yes, you will need one.

The type of dimmers required to replace the switches controlling those pot lights depend on the type of load, and the wattage, but most likely the standard RRD-6D (standard 600W dimmer) will work.

In order to control the lights from your idevice, the system will need to be programmed using the Lutron software, and wired into your home network.

Ok so what kind of price am I looking at for 3 dimmers and a main repeater? Is there a good online store to get cheap? How many dimmers and switches can aone repeater control?

Even if you buy online you won't have the software to program the system (have to do tap programming)

So only way to get it working with IPAD is have a professional insaller install. Are try the only ones with the software?

Just to clarify on this:


I believe he intended to say 3x RRD-6D & RR-MAIN-REP.

The RRD-RD is for wired (traditional) 3 & 4 way circuits when wired to/used with an RRD-6D as the main dimmer [Or any other RR2 Dimmer, 10D, 6NA, 6ND, etc..] The RRD-RD by itself does nothing...

Yes. The labor cost to intall and program the system would amount to two hours labor.

new lutron software allows the firmware upgrade of mlv/elv dimmers
to adaptive dimmers. Makes a big difference for difficult LED loads.

I do not see a 6ND or a 6 NA dimmer on the Lutron web site, only the following:
Model Numbers
Dimmer
Incandescent /Magnetic Low-voltage
RRD-6D-XX* 600 W/ 600 VA Dimmer
RRD-10D-XX* 1000 W/ 1000 VA Dimmer
RRD-10ND-XX* 1000 W/ 1000 VA Neutral
Dimmer
Switch
Lighting and motor loads
RRD-8ANS-XX* 8 A Lighting, 5.8 A Motor
Neutral Electronic Switch
Accessory Controls
RD-RD-XX* Remote Dimmer
RD-RS-XX* Remote Switch
(From: http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...s_369-225a.pdf)

Are you saying that they have a 600 Watt dimmer with a neutral? Where can I find a complete and up-to-date list of RA2 components?
Thanks,

I have been told that I cannot accomplish the following:
Use a RA2 Occupancy Sensor to turn on my hall lights when a person passes, but only between certain hours (I don't want the lights to come on and wake my wife every time I go to the bathroom during the night). What about I put the Occupancy Sensor on a RA2 switch (RRD-8ANS) that was timed from the Main Repeater so that the Sensor itself received power only during the hours I wanted it to function (turn the lights on); would that not work to give me the conditional programming I'm looking for?

Richard,

Just got back in country today. Please see this page for complete Ra2 product lineup

http://www.lutron.com/Products/Whole...elNumbers.aspx

Richard,

RadioRa can not do conditional logic programatically. You could only do this by using a 3rd party controller or some type of cobbled control as you suggest above (or by using Lutron Homeworks QS instead)

The Ra LRF-OCRB2 ox sensor, for example, is not a line voltage device. It is battery powered. You would not be able to control power to it via an 8ans switch.

Further, specialized unorthodox wiring might solve a conditional logic goal you have now (say, use the contact closure output on a Ra VCRX to feed low voltage to the battery leads on your Ra ox sensor based on a timeclock) but may very well limit your flexibility if the solution doesn't work exactly as you would like.

I'll give you a HWQS conditional logic sequence on Ox sensors for a home I'm doing now. The client wanted "pathway" buttons at entry points that illuminated a path to different points in the house based on the time of day. After sunset he wanted the path to illuminate alll the way through to his master bathroom. I suggested that this would be a bad idea in practice as it is always a bad idea to turn on bedroom lights from a keypad outside of the bedroom. The client soon agreed when his teenage son came home late and hit the pathway button. However, the client still wanted this.... Fix it!

The solution was to set a pathway variable to "true" and initiate a sequence that would set the pathway variable to false in three minutes. We then placed an Ox sensor at the master suite entrance that would only turn on the master suite lights if the pathway variable is true. So, the master suite lights will only come on from the motion sensor within three minutes of a pathway button being pressed.

The Ox sensor was originally installed in another part of the house. Had we done some type of unorthodox wiring to achieve the same effect we wouldn't have had the flexibility to do so post build.

Was that in the release notes for 5.0.8?

Its the first thing in the release notes. It does not say why you
would want to do this, but that should be obvious.

In the future i would expect that the mlv and elv would be discontinued,
which makes sense as they are all obviously the same thing with
different firmware.

I had to laugh when I opened up the release notes after posting.
I just wish the NA dimmers were priced a little closer to standard 6D.
We just sold a job with standard dimmers and cans then upgraded to led cans and NA dimmers which pushed us far over budget and almost lost the whole job.

Hi Everyone,

I'm about to start Radio RA2 in my home. I have question if the main repeater can talk to temperature sensor without the HAVC controller?

What I want is to send command to the temperature sensor from the main repeater to get the temperature of the room.


Does anyone have temperature sensor that can try ?

Not a bad idea but my guess would be that the temperature sensor only communicates 1-way with the main repeater to save battery life.

The temperature sensor communicates with the HVAC controller and must be assigned to an HVAC controller to function in the system. Presently, you can't poll individual temperature sensors. Instead the HVAC controller averages the sensors (you can attach more than one to each HVAC controller) and reports only the average to the main repeater...

I have a spare temperature sensor for sale...

I looked at the integration protocol and does have a command to get what i want but i don't know if the main repeater can do it. Wondering you can try since you have one. So what is your current setup ? You have the HVAC with the temperature sensor ?

PM about the sensor you have forsale.

Example DEVICE Messages
Operation
Command String
Query: ?DEVICE, Integration ID, Component Number, Action Number
What is the Temp. Sensor's Battery Status?
?DEVICE,1,1,22
Response: ~DEVICE, Integration ID, Component Number, Action Number, Parameters
Temp. Sensor's Battery is Low.
~DEVICE,1,1,22,2

As I stated to Shun, the integration protocol does seem to support it. I just don't know if I'm reading it wrong and what controller is need to do so.

Also I saw your really cool ipad control app for ra2. I'm curious if your app is sending commands straight to the main repeater or to a computer then to the main repeater?



Example DEVICE Messages
Operation
Command String
Query: ?DEVICE, Integration ID, Component Number, Action Number
What is the Temp. Sensor's Battery Status?
?DEVICE,1,1,22
Response: ~DEVICE, Integration ID, Component Number, Action Number, Parameters
Temp. Sensor's Battery is Low.
~DEVICE,1,1,22,2

I don't know but if I had to guess, you wouldn't be polling the temp sensor, rather the HVAC controller/tstat or main repeater would give the sensors last reading.


My ipad talks directly to my Ra repeater

quick question about RA2

just upgraded from legacy RadioRA

how many HVAC controllers can be installed?

I read it was two: I need at least 3 zones: planned on using 3 LR-HVAC-1 controllers

Did you do the buyback program?

I have two installed but looked at doing three, so there is no problem with 3. I think the limit is on the temp sensors. I think there is an upper limit of 5 temp sensors across all controllers.

Make sure to get the latest firmware and Essentials code. There were a number of fixes/changes just rolled out for the HVAC units.

Thanks for the reply

yes a max of 10 sensors (5 per controller) is what I read and that is fine for my application

Firmware is 5.08

what a pleasure using RR2 over the legacy stuff: really nice new gear

Mark,

I've been a RadioRA customer since 2004, starting with the original RA system and walk around programming. Now run my whole house with it, along with integration to a Savant system. I love the iPad app. Will be replacing an old LightTouch system next week that I use for outdoor lighting which will put me over 90 loads on the system. It works great. Very reliable and easy to use.

Karl