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post #211 of 660
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

That info might be in my review thread. I think for HDMI I just used the film choice and whatever the stock gamut choice was. D9 was weird it will probably end up being a cult film like Army of Darkness.

Cheers Tom, I will go back and have a re-read. I think it is time I bit the bullet and bought a simple calibration tool. I would say though at the moment I am disinclined as the performance of the HD86 pretty much OTB is still amazing me everytime I put a film on
post #212 of 660
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Originally Posted by Alpha10 View Post

Cheers Tom, I will go back and have a re-read. I think it is time I bit the bullet and bought a simple calibration tool. I would say though at the moment I am disinclined as the performance of the HD86 pretty much OTB is still amazing me everytime I put a film on

Thats where I'm at. I have set a calibration but it looks so good out of the box I'm leaning towards canceling it. We watched std def version of crown affair last night and it looked as good as some of my blueray's. This projector is amazing.
post #213 of 660
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Originally Posted by bezlar View Post

Thats where I'm at. I have set a calibration but it looks so good out of the box I'm leaning towards canceling it. We watched std def version of crown affair last night and it looked as good as some of my blueray's. This projector is amazing.

Do you let the projector do the scaling? I haven't tried that yet. My Onkyo 905 amp does the scaling at the moment and just sends everything 1080p, just been so happy with the picture I haven't bothered playing around, maybe I should give the HD86 a chance?

Cheers
post #214 of 660
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Originally Posted by Alpha10 View Post

Do you let the projector do the scaling? I haven't tried that yet. My Onkyo 905 amp does the scaling at the moment and just sends everything 1080p, just been so happy with the picture I haven't bothered playing around, maybe I should give the HD86 a chance?

Cheers

I use my yamaha to do the HDMI switching but I believe it is just pass threw, so ya I think the projector is doing the scaling. It always tells me in the lower right hand corner what it is seeing.
post #215 of 660
Hello, finally I have bought the HD86 and tomorrow I will go for the one.
I have bought it in this store of Marbella
http://www.domosat.com/

Has cost me 3.599

When it installs it I will give my impressions

My english ist bad,sorry

Bye
post #216 of 660
COngrats! Keep us posted and pics too!
post #217 of 660
Welcome, You will enjoy this projector. Had mine calibrated on Saturday and looks fantastic. Standard DVD's look almost as good as Blueray.
post #218 of 660
Can someone in this thread explain to me the advantages this has over the BenQ W6000? I've tried to get specifics in that thread, and am not getting any.

With the W6K being significantly cheaper, what is the draw to the HD8600?

From what I'm reading both are high ANSI/sharpness (though both 0.65" DMD), but have low native contrast and use an aggressive DI, while still not producing blacks that compete with LCD/LCoS.

What am I missing here? The only real downside to the W6K is black level and contrast in dark scenes. From what I understand, the HD8600 has the same weak spot, correct?
post #219 of 660
Ok I need to fess up. I bought one of these but didn't want to post because of the negative comments about Optoma.
this is by far the best projector we've had in our theater.
We had the 8200 and could see the iris at times, not so on the 8600.
We run an AT screen and watched numerous movies and couldn't be happier.
I have been spending less time here at AVS(sorry) because we are so happy with our projector, I feel I don't have as much to read about.
Any questions you can PM me or post here, but this is some of the best $$ I've spent on a projector and I've had upgradeitis for quite a number of years.

Scott
post #220 of 660
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Originally Posted by scottyb View Post

Ok I need to fess up. I bought one of these but didn't want to post because of the negative comments about Optoma.
this is by far the best projector we've had in our theater.
We had the 8200 and could see the iris at times, not so on the 8600.
We run an AT screen and watched numerous movies and couldn't be happier.
I have been spending less time here at AVS(sorry) because we are so happy with our projector, I feel I don't have as much to read about.
Any questions you can PM me or post here, but this is some of the best $$ I've spent on a projector and I've had upgradeitis for quite a number of years.

Scott

Thanks Scott, this is wierd these new projectors are a new top level of DLP PJ's. I've tried to explain the new level of video quality, it's basically ten fold in image quality really in your face quality. Like I said like seeing your first Sony Trinitron. Everything looks so great you can see it's such a big jump over what we've had.
How's this I watch most all my movies in Dynamic black II and see no problem, just superb video.

Glad your in the group, enjoy the best forget the rest.
post #221 of 660
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Originally Posted by scottyb View Post

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I have been spending less time here at AVS(sorry) because we are so happy with our projector, I feel I don't have as much to read about.

Any questions you can PM me or post here, but this is some of the best $$ I've spent on a projector and I've had upgradeitis for quite a number of years.

Scott

Completely agree, feeding my HD86 from my Oppo 83SE, I would have to say that I am stunned by the picture almost every time I put any disc in to play. Two of the best AV purchases I have ever made, and I have made a lot

Qustion for you maybe Tom, do you know if they are going to make the anamorphic lens as an interchangeable option for the HD86(00) I think that is my next step a huge (for the UK) full scope screen.......

Cheers
post #222 of 660
Best complement I can give this projector is that I don't miss the money I spent to buy it. Very satisfied. Plus a friend of mine sells them and I got a great price.
post #223 of 660
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Originally Posted by LilGator View Post

Can someone in this thread explain to me the advantages this has over the BenQ W6000? I've tried to get specifics in that thread, and am not getting any.

With the W6K being significantly cheaper, what is the draw to the HD8600?

From what I'm reading both are high ANSI/sharpness (though both 0.65" DMD), but have low native contrast and use an aggressive DI, while still not producing blacks that compete with LCD/LCoS.

What am I missing here? The only real downside to the W6K is black level and contrast in dark scenes. From what I understand, the HD8600 has the same weak spot, correct?

Anything?

Are there any measurements to compare?
post #224 of 660
I believe higher ANSI contrast for HD86 which contribute to more pop to the pq.
post #225 of 660
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Originally Posted by rjyap View Post

I believe higher ANSI contrast for HD86 which contribute to more pop to the pq.

Pop the W6K has plenty of, I'm not worried about that- the ANSI difference between the two should be negligible, and both better than LCD/LCoS.

It's the dark scenes, native on/off that I'm curious about. Does the HD8600 do this better?
post #226 of 660
Will this projector be bright enough for a 12ft by 5 ft Stewart Studiotek 130 screen in a light controlled room?

After calibration.
post #227 of 660
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Thanks Scott, this is wierd these new projectors are a new top level of DLP PJ's. I've tried to explain the new level of video quality, it's basically ten fold in image quality really in your face quality. Like I said like seeing your first Sony Trinitron. Everything looks so great you can see it's such a big jump over what we've had.
How's this I watch most all my movies in Dynamic black II and see no problem, just superb video.

Glad your in the group, enjoy the best forget the rest.

Maybe you are a little be too enthusiastic here.

It's a great machine but I still think the planar gave a better image. I wish it as a better dynamic onff. I don't think it's that much better than my Sharp XV-Z20000 when the iris is at cinema 1. And the Sharp was made in 2006. It was known for it's good ANSI. The black of the Optoma are better with the iris at cinema 2 but then you see it move at times.

I think it's overall better than my JVC RS20. The JVC has better onff but motion is very bad compare to the Optoma. The Optoma has more pop even with a gamma of 2.4 on the JVC.

I would like to see the Sony VPL-VW85 it's seem like a well balance projector.
post #228 of 660
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Originally Posted by LilGator View Post

Pop the W6K has plenty of, I'm not worried about that- the ANSI difference between the two should be negligible, and both better than LCD/LCoS.

It's the dark scenes, native on/off that I'm curious about. Does the HD8600 do this better?

Wait until I fully calibrate my W6000 and I'll give you an objective view. My initial assessment is W6000 had less pop than HD82 (which I view both projector in my ht room) and HD86 is known to have better pop than HD82. Again, HD82 is calibrated and W6000 I only adjusted brightness and contrast only. The rest of the settings I use gamma 2.2, warm temperature, DI on, BC off. rs10 is flat compare to DLP projector I view (in another word, lack of excitement in the picture).
post #229 of 660
Everybody should check out this thread also. Dont know we ended up with 2?http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1206248
post #230 of 660
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Originally Posted by bukiwhitey View Post

Will this projector be bright enough for a 12ft by 5 ft Stewart Studiotek 130 screen in a light controlled room?

After calibration.


Yes. And then some.
post #231 of 660
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Originally Posted by bgosselin View Post

Maybe you are a little be too enthusiastic here.

It's a great machine but I still think the planar gave a better image. I wish it as a better dynamic onff. I don't think it's that much better than my Sharp XV-Z20000 when the iris is at cinema 1. And the Sharp was made in 2006. It was known for it's good ANSI. The black of the Optoma are better with the iris at cinema 2 but then you see it move at times.

I think it's overall better than my JVC RS20. The JVC has better onff but motion is very bad compare to the Optoma. The Optoma has more pop even with a gamma of 2.4 on the JVC.

I would like to see the Sony VPL-VW85 it's seem like a well balance projector.

There's just something about the shapes in the images, the figures in the images. Very real and life like. I don't have this Optoma I have the HD82 and get this I use Cinema 2 all the time and don't see pumping. I almost worry the iris is broken but it's not.
post #232 of 660
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Originally Posted by rjyap View Post

Wait until I fully calibrate my W6000 and I'll give you an objective view. My initial assessment is W6000 had less pop than HD82 (which I view both projector in my ht room) and HD86 is known to have better pop than HD82. Again, HD82 is calibrated and W6000 I only adjusted brightness and contrast only. The rest of the settings I use gamma 2.2, warm temperature, DI on, BC off. rs10 is flat compare to DLP projector I view (in another word, lack of excitement in the picture).

Thanks, I'll look forward to that- will you be able to take objective measurements?
post #233 of 660
I need to check if I still have my old Calman calibrated result for HD82. Anyway, I didn't take any ANSI contrast measurement.
post #234 of 660
I have just posted this over on the Oppo thread but wondered if anyone here has seen any HDMI handshake issues with their HD86(00)?? Both the Oppo and the projector are quite new, but in the couple of weeks I was using the Pioneer I didn't see any failures....

"Hi,

I have had a couple of HDMI handshake failures over the last couple of days. My set up is the 83SE into an Onkyo 905 AVR and then on to an Optoma HD8600. The 905 is set to through, I never had any failures using my old Pioneer 51 player but twice now in the last three days I have had total failure of handshake and the only way round it has been to re-start the projector which is obviously not good at all for the bulb.

Anyone got any ideas? I tried turning the Oppo on and off and the AVR onand off nothing. Strangly if I swap AVR outputs onto the plasma it works and if I switch AVR inputs to HDTV then that works fine with the projector, but when I go back in the Oppo complete failure.........."

Is there any way to make the projector re-sync without having to re-start it??

Cheers
post #235 of 660
Did you try to switch to other input then back to HDMI1?
post #236 of 660
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Originally Posted by rjyap View Post

Did you try to switch to other input then back to HDMI1?

Yes tried that with no luck, need a power down and back up then it was fine, but I don't like doing that to the bulb....
post #237 of 660
I would be MOST appreciative if you all could lend me some advice. We are currently remodeling the media room to switch from using a 65" Pioneer Elite pro-730hdi to an as yet undecided projector. The ceilings are 9' and will be using a Chief SL-150 projector lift which will be mounted flush into the ceiling. The ceiling is white and the walls are beige. Room dimensions are ~ 16'4"X21'. Screen will be placed one of the 16 sides. Light control will be perfect. Content will be almost exclusively blu-ray with the occasional comcast HD movie rental. I am considering a DLP projector (Optoma 8600, sim2 D80e, marantz 15s2. I also cannot decide on the best screen size, although I realize it will probably have a Hc grey screen and be between 96 and 106". Projector/screen recommendation would be greatly appreciated. I also realize that regardless of which combo I decide upon, placement will be tricky, as most of the DLP projectors are not very horizontally forgiving.
The contractors have completed repositioning the speakers and remodeling the component rack. They are REALLY pressing me for a decision ASAP. Again, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
One last question, would $6000 for a Sim2 D80E with less than 100hrs of use be a good deal?. Also, it seems that while the Sim2 and Marantz models might be better quality units, the models are almost two years older than the Optoma. I found the Optoma online for $4485.
post #238 of 660
Me I'd get the Optoma the others you mentioned are know for dimmer images. The optoma is known for being very bright in "best mode" tuned down even. The Optoma got some great test numbers also. 106" screen size is fine, large enough yet small enough to keep things bright. Nice price $4500
post #239 of 660
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Originally Posted by shaggy244 View Post

I would be MOST appreciative if you all could lend me some advice. We are currently remodeling the media room to switch from using a 65" Pioneer Elite pro-730hdi to an as yet undecided projector. The ceilings are 9' and will be using a Chief SL-150 projector lift which will be mounted flush into the ceiling. The ceiling is white and the walls are beige. Room dimensions are ~ 16'4"X21'. Screen will be placed one of the 16 sides. Light control will be perfect. Content will be almost exclusively blu-ray with the occasional comcast HD movie rental. I am considering a DLP projector (Optoma 8600, sim2 D80e, marantz 15s2. I also cannot decide on the best screen size, although I realize it will probably have a Hc grey screen and be between 96 and 106". Projector/screen recommendation would be greatly appreciated. I also realize that regardless of which combo I decide upon, placement will be tricky, as most of the DLP projectors are not very horizontally forgiving.
The contractors have completed repositioning the speakers and remodeling the component rack. They are REALLY pressing me for a decision ASAP. Again, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
One last question, would $6000 for a Sim2 D80E with less than 100hrs of use be a good deal?. Also, it seems that while the Sim2 and Marantz models might be better quality units, the models are almost two years older than the Optoma. I found the Optoma online for $4485.

I would make sure that price includes lens. Lens is not included in the box.
post #240 of 660
Where can you get one of these projectors online or mailed to me ? I have been looking all over

Thanks
Richard V.
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