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post #31 of 660
12/3/09 at 1:20pm
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Does the 8600 have power focus and shift controls?

Finger Power.
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post #32 of 660
12/4/09 at 6:18pm
Got it today, very good black level, killer black level really, two Irises DI and a power stepped Iris by the lamp. Very hard to detect the DI on this one.
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post #33 of 660
12/4/09 at 6:29pm
just read arts blog and preliminary impressions of this pj. wasnt aware of its price category, i expected it to be cheaper. nonetheless, he states the di is somewhat disappointing and very detectable. any thoughts on this and does it also have manual iris? if so, how does that fare?
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post #34 of 660
12/4/09 at 6:58pm
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I know Optoma can make it do every bit as good as any Plannar.

I don't know why you would assume that. Their previous top of the line FP had a mediocre DI (even though it did not seem to bother you much), and the early reviews suggest this one has problems as well. The Plannar has one of the best DI implementations bar none. Hopefully they can fix this one, because this projector has a number of things I like, and if they finally managed to build a reliable unit I would be interested.
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post #35 of 660
12/4/09 at 7:12pm
I don't know what Art was seeing. I know he didn't spend much time with it as of the writing on his blog.
I went to demo this unit and could not see the iris at all on the low setting.
The picture looked great!!

scott
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post #36 of 660
12/4/09 at 7:13pm
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Got it today, very good black level, killer black level really, two Irises DI and a power stepped Iris by the lamp. Very hard to detect the DI on this one.

Tell us more.
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post #37 of 660
12/4/09 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Got it today, very good black level, killer black level really, two Irises DI and a power stepped Iris by the lamp. Very hard to detect the DI on this one.

Have you used a DI on any non-Optoma projector? If so, what did you think? Have you ever seen a DI you considered poor, on an Optoma projector or any other company's projector?

--Darin
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post #38 of 660
12/4/09 at 7:23pm
Yeah I had a Sony HS51 and Panny Ax100, those two where a pleasure to watch with low DI exposure. This one's the same thing but looks more 3D, very low if none of the haze in ultra black scenes. I've only had it 4 hours more testing needed.

The projector arrives with the lens in a seperate box. Buyers choose long or short throw, pretty useful this way.

http://www.videodementia.com/sales/optomahd8600.jpg
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post #39 of 660
12/4/09 at 8:53pm
FWIW, I can't remember guitarman ever saying anything negative about an Optoma pj.

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I don't know why you would assume that. Their previous top of the line FP had a mediocre DI (even though it did not seem to bother you much), and the early reviews suggest this one has problems as well. The Plannar has one of the best DI implementations bar none. Hopefully they can fix this one, because this projector has a number of things I like, and if they finally managed to build a reliable unit I would be interested.
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post #40 of 660
12/5/09 at 1:30am
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Originally Posted by Anthony A. View Post

just read arts blog and preliminary impressions of this pj. wasnt aware of its price category, i expected it to be cheaper. nonetheless, he states the di is somewhat disappointing and very detectable. any thoughts on this and does it also have manual iris? if so, how does that fare?

I really do not understand this, I now have 20 hours on the machine and the DI is very good, I have mostly had it on cinema 1 setting and only once on 'prince Caspian' did I think I detected the iris, but couldn't be sure as it was also during a scene change.

The black levels are very good indeed, even in my light coloured room!

Cheers
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post #41 of 660
12/5/09 at 5:08am
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Got it today, very good black level, killer black level really, two Irises DI and a power stepped Iris by the lamp. Very hard to detect the DI on this one.

Hi mr guitarman ,thank you for your first impressions ,can you please picture some screen ...Thank you
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post #42 of 660
12/5/09 at 10:10am
"just read arts blog and preliminary impressions of this pj. wasnt aware of its price category, i expected it to be cheaper. nonetheless, he states the di is somewhat disappointing and very detectable"


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I really do not understand this, I now have 20 hours on the machine and the DI is very good, I have mostly had it on cinema 1 setting and only once on 'prince Caspian' did I think I detected the iris, but couldn't be sure as it was also during a scene change.

The black levels are very good indeed, even in my light coloured room!

Cheers

I agree.
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post #43 of 660
12/5/09 at 10:14am
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I agree.

Be interested in how you get on and what settings you try etc, I'll get some more hours in this evening and report back. Star trek XI tonight should be a good test of the black level and the DI
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post #44 of 660
12/5/09 at 1:24pm
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Be interested in how you get on and what settings you try etc, I'll get some more hours in this evening and report back. Star trek XI tonight should be a good test of the black level and the DI

I haven't run a colorfacts grayscale test yet but mine looks on the red side, stock it's set at cinema 2 video choice, black and whites were correct OTB.
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post #45 of 660
12/5/09 at 2:17pm
Hey

Do any of you in the "Optoma loop" have any information on the Vivitek 5082?
Is it really an 8600 clone (minus a few features) at 1/2 the price?

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post #46 of 660
12/5/09 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by robkramer View Post

Hey

Do any of you in the "Optoma loop" have any information on the Vivitek 5082?
Is it really an 8600 clone (minus a few features) at 1/2 the price?

thread

I got a response from Vivitek. I e-mailed them about the specs. They said to go to Magnolia (Best Buy). I did that today and they have no information about it at all. Very impressive customer service response. . .

I am thinking about getting one and if I don't like it, just eating the 15% restocking fee.
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post #47 of 660
12/5/09 at 4:31pm
I sure hope their quality has got better.

I am on my 4th HD81 LV and it just went out this week. None of them have gone over 500-600 hours. Pretty Pathetic

I would stay away from Optoma at all cost, not worth the hassle.
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post #48 of 660
12/5/09 at 5:11pm
Guys seemed to have allot of trouble with the two piece system. Interesting the stand alone HD80 has great sucess. What did your bulb go out? Optoma's first series budget projector had owners going for 5,000 hours on the first bulb and still going. wierd
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post #49 of 660
12/5/09 at 5:22pm
Ha, I have never had one last long enough to have bulb problems.

We first had the HD80 (might have been a HD81, I can't remember) single piece unit. It went out within 3 weeks and we traded (paid) up with Optoma for the LV as they said it had better reliability.

The first 2 went out within 500 hours with vertical lines on the right side of the screen, I had to ship them back and get new ones. This last one is about 500 hours, and is getting HDMI issues and a blue screen (I wonder if Microsoft helped them with the OS). I have changed all cables with the same result. Will have to send back again.

I know I am not the only one with issues with Optoma, and as I mentioned, I would stay away at all costs.


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Guys seemed to have allot of trouble with the two piece system. Interesting the stand alone HD80 has great sucess. What did your bulb go out? Optoma's first series budget projector had owners going for 5,000 hours on the first bulb and still going. wierd
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post #50 of 660
12/5/09 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

I got a response from Vivitek. I e-mailed them about the specs. They said to go to Magnolia (Best Buy). I did that today and they have no information about it at all. Very impressive customer service response. . .

I am thinking about getting one and if I don't like it, just eating the 15% restocking fee.

I couldn't find anything at the site about the projector having an Iris system. Can't imagine how they rate it 25000.1.
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post #51 of 660
12/5/09 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by houstonht View Post

Ha, I have never had one last long enough to have bulb problems.

We first had the HD80 (might have been a HD81, I can’t remember) single piece unit. It went out within 3 weeks and we traded (paid) up with Optoma for the LV as they said it had better reliability.

The first 2 went out within 500 hours with vertical lines on the right side of the screen, I had to ship them back and get new ones. This last one is about 500 hours, and is getting HDMI issues and a blue screen (I wonder if Microsoft helped them with the OS). I have changed all cables with the same result. Will have to send back again.

I know I am not the only one with issues with Optoma, and as I mentioned, I would stay away at all costs.

Ditto. I'm on my 4th HD81-LV after going through 3 HD81's. Anybody considering any Optoma projector should contact Jason at AV Science first, if the threads by owners haven't made their lack of reliability clear. Really like the people at Optoma USA, but don't trust the product.
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post #52 of 660
12/5/09 at 11:28pm
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Originally Posted by noah katz View Post

FWIW, I can't remember guitarman ever saying anything negative about an Optoma pj.

Come on Noah....... BE FAIR.......

I am pretty sure I remember Tom not liking the color of one of the projectors.....
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post #53 of 660
12/6/09 at 1:10am
anyone has compared the HD8600 with the HD8200? to see if there's a very big difference between the two VP.
Kipkab
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post #54 of 660
12/6/09 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by kipkab View Post

anyone has compared the HD8600 with the HD8200? to see if there's a very big difference between the two VP.
Kipkab

The 8600 iris is MUCH better.

Scott
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post #55 of 660
12/6/09 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by robkramer View Post

Hey

Do any of you in the "Optoma loop" have any information on the Vivitek 5082?
Is it really an 8600 clone (minus a few features) at 1/2 the price?

thread

I also want to know. I'm ready to buy the 8600 depending on the reviews monday, but if the 5082 is close to the same it would be hard not to buy it. I'm upgrading and old mits hc3000 dlp 720p and also wondering if I will go wow what a better picture or wonder where my money went?

Thanks
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post #56 of 660
12/6/09 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by bezlar View Post

I also want to know. I'm ready to buy the 8600 depending on the reviews monday, but if the 5082 is close to the same it would be hard not to buy it. I'm upgrading and old mits hc3000 dlp 720p and also wondering if I will go wow what a better picture or wonder where my money went?

Thanks

It should be close based on the specs and the facts that that many of the components are identical.

I would really love to have a manual iris to adjust brightness and hopefully maximize contrast as well.
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post #57 of 660
12/6/09 at 10:57am
Where are you folks finding the information on the Vivitek?

I did a google on it and only came back to this thread??
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post #58 of 660
12/6/09 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by HiHoStevo View Post

Where are you folks finding the information on the Vivitek?
I did a google on it and only came back to this thread??

Other than the Vivitek thread and the Best Buy link
, there is no more information.
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post #59 of 660
12/6/09 at 6:36pm
I don't think it has any Iris DI or Static. It may be missing just the lamp Iris, DK

I see the hate dreggs popping up here not the LV guys you know who you are. I won't do the review on this website I'll put it on my site, no forum and door is looked. nice!

Now see what you did.

ScottyB is right the Iris is super on the HD8600 the extra Iris adds to the incredible blacks I've seen. It's allot better than the HD8200 though the 8200 is great with it's 780ansi.
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post #60 of 660
12/6/09 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I don't think it has any Iris DI or Static. It may be missing just the lamp Iris, DK

I see the hate dreggs popping up here not the LV guys you know who you are. I won't do the review on this website I'll put it on my site, no forum and door is looked. nice!

Now see what you did.

ScottyB is right the Iris is super on the HD8600 the extra Iris adds to the incredible blacks I've seen. It's allot better than the HD8200 though the 8200 is great with it's 780ansi.

I don't see anyone hating on you. I do see people questioning your objectivity and with good reason. You are a dealer for Optoma but you don't state this. You downplay any problems with Optoma and always trumpet their projectors. You should at least put a big disclaimer in your sig that you are a dealer for Optoma so that people can make their own judgements about your objectivity. As it is, those new to the forums would have no idea and could likely be led into buying what by all accounts are horribly unreliable projectors with questionable picture quality.
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