Optoma HD8600 - Page 14

PM sent, thanks Tom!

Tom,

I have watched two movies now and was unable view either using 24fps mode due to color/gliching issues - had to switch back to 60hz to resolve problems. If no one else is seeing these issues let me know so I can have optoma look @ my unit but as I see it, it is quite apparent and not usable in current state.

I am not seeing anything like that.

Still on firmware 1.07 as UK still claiming no updates.......

Try re-running the firmware or if you have another machine to send 24fps to the projector try that, maybe it's a device problem.

Alpha10,

You are not seeing anything like that because before the update (1.11) the projecter would only output 1080p 60hz not 24 so when you gave the projector a 1080p 24 siginal it would always be @ 60hz you can confirm this by reading the display after it searches for the source it tells you the type of signal it's recieving.

Anyone with the new 1.11 firmware update seeing this problem or is it just my unit?

Ras

At the moment I do not have another player to send a 24fps signal to the projector so I will have to wait and see if anyone else is having this problem. I have not heard of anyone having any issues with outputing 1080p 24fps from the oppo bdp83.

Ras. A projector doesn`t output anything so I am very unclear what you are saying. Before I think you could feed it varying resolutions and rates such as 1080p 24 and 1080p 60. Before the projector could display the signal, it had to change it to 1080p 60 and then would display it 1080p 120. Now it will take 1080p 24 and display it without changing it to 1080p 60 first. It now displays 1080p 24 at what? 1080p 96?.

Mark maybe I wasn't beig clear but I was changing the output in the Oppo bdp83 player not the projector. When I set the Oppo player to 1080p & 24fps - on, the picture has the problems described previously and in the projecter display reads 1080p 24. When I set the Oppo to 1080p & 24fps - off, the picture is normal with no issues as discribed and projector displays 1080p 60hz. Ras

When you read back in this thread you see members that download the firmware and confirm 24fps is now working, maybe if you PM them you can get the answers you need.

I'd re-run the firmware it woulnd't hurt.

I have had no additional issues with 24p playback when upgraded to 1.11. Playback devices are ps3 and tosh HD-Ex1. I think it's safe to say that 24p is played back at 48Hz. Can you check if the frame interpolation settings are off?

before the upgrade I experienced mild jerkiness when playing 24p material, not anymore

Tom will reinstall the firmware this weekend and let you know if anything changes.


rafparedis when I output 1080p 24 from my Oppo the Optoma display reads 1080P 24HZ on screen not 48hz so maybe this is why my display is having bad color/gliches when playing 24fps. Is the player or the projector suppose to step this up to 48hz? My guess is this is why I am seeing problems and you are not as I can definitely here the color wheel slow down when selecting 24fps in the Oppo.

"Can you check if the frame interpolation settings are off?"

If this is the pure motion option on the Optoma then yes it was off.

Ras

it's correct that it displays 1080P24. It internally converts to 48. If you hear the wheel slow down it should be okay.

I hope the reinstall of the firmware works for you

RoopeB, how did the firmware update go? Was it as simple as it was with HD80?

I am updating also from HD80 to HD86 and hope to get my new pj tomorrow.
With HD70 and HD80 I was pretty much satisfied with 77" DIY H499 MDF but am planning now to get something bigger and a bit better for this pj, perhaps a 92" Grandview Flat screen WB White Gain 1.0 or GB Grey gain 0.8. Which one would you recommend to a space that can be darkened, but usually has some ambient light and does not have dark walls?
The projection distance will be as close as 92" can be achieved, around 3,14 meters.

as 92" is not that big and the hd86 has lumens to spare I think it might be best to go with the grey 0.8 (high contrast?).

I just got done reading all 881 posts in the InFocus SP8602 thread...

Can someone please help me out and give me your impressions of the Optoma 8600... and it vs. the SP8602...

My eyes will thank you, lol

Thanks for the tip rafparedis! I decided to go with 92" GB gray gain 0.8 as I was pretty much used to it already and I wasn't disappointed. I got pretty much what I wanted by upgrading from HD80 to HD86, a bigger viewing area with better PQ from same projection distance and with quieter pj.

Does anyone has some good basic settings to start with calibration for 0.8 Gray screen or do you usually start with Art's projectorreview settings?

HD80 was not bad at all what comes to PQ IMHO but this HD86 seems to be better in every way and has a lot more horsepower to spare

I contacted Optoma about the firmware issue and it seems thedy did not know anything when euro firmware is coming if it is coming at all. They also said that upgrading US firmware to euro machine voids the warranty.

Have anyone heard anything when euro firmware will be available? I can't believe there will be only us firmware for us users

All owners should keep calling in and complaining, ask to talk to the engineering mgr there he's in charge. Call in every week for an update on when.

I really do not understand the answer of the European branch in regard to the firmware update as

*when I called, (right after the news from tom that new software was available) they said it was available but I needed to send in the projector for applying the update (which I really didn't feel like doing)

*the firmware for the projector is global, which means the 'US' firmware is the same as the so called European firmware update they're waiting for...

My experience with the UK Optoma site is that it very much depends on who you speak to. I remember phoning them many times over a period of months asking about a fix for my HD80's inability to display 1080p/24 and was told by several engineers that they couldn't do anything. Then when I rang one further time I spoke to another engineer who instantly said, 'no problem', asked me to send the unit in and within a week the fix was applied. So, I would keep trying if I were you.

yes, it seems really strange that according to Optoma in US the firmware is available and in europe it does not exist officially at all.
The person who I emailed with was key contact manager in scandinavia actually. He said that because Optoma US and Europe are different division he did not know if the firmware was user upgradable in US or if it had to be done by service center. He was really helpful and did contact technical support on this matter but had not been able to get anything confirmed about the firmware.

rafparedis, I believe you have euro HD86 as you are from belgium?

hello lewis,

I have the euro HD86 yes. I bought the projector in the Netherlands.

It seems Art has reviewed the HD8600 with new firmware 1.11

http://www.projectorreviews.com/opto...600-update.php

As said the guarantee will broke off if doing the firmware update here in the EU. Is downgrade technically possible meaning, does the projector only accept a newer fw than the current?

Yes you can go back to the old firmware I have that also. Pm me your email if you want the old version.

Which Gamut to use for best picture? Many of my friends are using the HDTV gamut but I think "native" gives a better picture.

Just change the gamut and use whatever suits you best for each signal source. You can check art's setting from the link attached in my previous post. I believe I use mainly native or HDTV if I remember correctly.

You can do that, but it's not really scientific, is it?

Hehe, yes you're right it is not But eventually it is up to the user what she/he decides to use, either the settings that should be scientificly the most accurate ones or settings that just please the eye most. I usually paddle in between these two back and forth.
I found that in my setup native gamut works best for Bluray and DVD and HDTV for TV

I would like to know the answer to this question as well... Anyone have experience with both?