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post #61 of 660
12/6/09 at 7:36pm
I'm deleting all the old projectors off my site, I haven't sold a projector for 3years and when I did it was just two projectors. So end that BS. I'm not an Optoma dealer. My site will strickly be a review site. LED PJ review coming up next, can't wait won't be right away but it's coming. This also will be on my website not here.
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post #62 of 660
12/6/09 at 7:51pm
Not a hater, just honest customer feedback.


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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I don't think it has any Iris DI or Static. It may be missing just the lamp Iris, DK

I see the hate dreggs popping up here not the LV guys you know who you are. I won't do the review on this website I'll put it on my site, no forum and door is looked. nice!

Now see what you did.

ScottyB is right the Iris is super on the HD8600 the extra Iris adds to the incredible blacks I've seen. It's allot better than the HD8200 though the 8200 is great with it's 780ansi.
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post #63 of 660
12/6/09 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff Regan View Post

Ditto. I'm on my 4th HD81-LV after going through 3 HD81's. Anybody considering any Optoma projector should contact Jason at AV Science first, if the threads by owners haven't made their lack of reliability clear. Really like the people at Optoma USA, but don't trust the product.

And I thought the three H79s I went through was bad.

I too would caution anyone reading this thread to stay away from Optoma. Don't get suckered in like I did.
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post #64 of 660
12/7/09 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I don't think it has any Iris DI or Static. It may be missing just the lamp Iris, DK

I see the hate dreggs popping up here not the LV guys you know who you are. I won't do the review on this website I'll put it on my site, no forum and door is looked. nice!

Now see what you did.

ScottyB is right the Iris is super on the HD8600 the extra Iris adds to the incredible blacks I've seen. It's allot better than the HD8200 though the 8200 is great with it's 780ansi.

This is a real shame, we should be able to just discuss here, it is afterall just a forum.......

To add some balance, I have had an H30 for almost five years and an HD72i for three years, both of which have worked flawlesly, otherwise I wouldn't keep coming back would I.

The negativity is I feel going to spoil what to me is an outstanding projector, oh well I suppose that makes me the lucky one

Cheers
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post #65 of 660
12/7/09 at 8:13am
I have an HD80 that I have 2.5 years on the original bulb with no problems.
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post #66 of 660
12/7/09 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by DiCecco View Post

I have an HD80 that I have 2.5 years on the original bulb with no problems.

Same here. I have owned an HD70. and have also used an HD80 for 2 1/2 years with absolutely no problems and excellent performance.
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post #67 of 660
12/7/09 at 11:15am
i own an optoma HD81 more than 2 years (980hrs) never had any problems with the original bulb too ;-)
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post #68 of 660
12/7/09 at 12:21pm
I spoke with someone at Vivitek about the H5080. I asked if the H5080 (not the H5082) has Dynamic Black (Dynamic Iris) and whether it has a manually adjustible iris. He just e-mailed me back saying that it has both!

See the response below.

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The H5080 just became available last week.

Answers to the questions below:

(1) Does it have a Dynamic Black (Dynamic Iris) feature?

YES

(2) Does it have an adjustable iris: Can you manually open and close the iris to make the projector brighter or dimmer?

YES
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post #69 of 660
12/7/09 at 1:09pm
One other follow-up question I asked. How manu adjustible iris positions. The answer:

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you have 9 choices to adjust the positions

I think I will order one to test it out.
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post #70 of 660
12/7/09 at 1:22pm
I tend to think people with problems speak out more than people without.
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post #71 of 660
12/7/09 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

One other follow-up question I asked. How manu adjustible iris positions. The answer:



I think I will order one to test it out.

Wow now you you have to worry about is if the DI works as good as mine. I haven't see anything that tells me ah there's the Iris moving. Watched Star Trek all morning and nothing. I can't hear it either, but I can hear the lamp Iris which has a 9 number step. Pm me what price you get on it, curious.
Good luck and come on back with the DI details.
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post #72 of 660
12/7/09 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by bezlar View Post

I tend to think people with problems speak out more than people without.

Recommend you read post #15 of this thread by Jason Turk of AV Science. If you were to contact him, I'm pretty sure he could give you an idea on the return rate vs. other brands he sells.
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post #73 of 660
12/7/09 at 3:33pm
I would love to see a side by side shootout on this Optoma and the LCD's, Lcos, Sxrd. A little Ansi birdie tells me there would be some trouncing going on. I think this one's over 800.1, plus the sharpness thing also.
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post #74 of 660
12/7/09 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I would love to see a side by side shootout on this Optoma and the LCD's, Lcos, Sxrd. A little Ansi birdie tells me there would be some trouncing going on. I think this one's over 800.1, plus the sharpness thing also.

If somebody got one to Mark Petersen he could measure the MTF. Back before he was measuring MTF he did a comparison that included the Optoma 8200, JVC RS20, and Planar 8150. I believe the Optoma had the highest ANSI CR, but the article here:

http://www.videovantage.com/?p=11

says that it looked less sharp than the 8150 and I think it might have even looked less sharp to Mark than the RS20, although I'm not sure on the last one.

It would be interesting to see if the 8600 has improved sharpness over the 8200.

--Darin
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post #75 of 660
12/7/09 at 4:04pm
Look all we are asking for is Perfection at an affordable price.....

:-)
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post #76 of 660
12/7/09 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by HiHoStevo View Post

Look all we are asking for is Perfection at an affordable price.....

:-)

If the iris isnt noticeable this could be a contender, but again I have my doubts with Optima based on my personal viewings of the 8200. I couldnt use the iris on that machine, because it was so obvious during nearly every scene.
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post #77 of 660
12/7/09 at 5:05pm
I don't no how they masked it so well on the HD8600 but I'll find out. All Wing told me was they worked on it after the feedback from the HD8200. Really I almost feel it's not working on mine. But you can see brightness dips when you change video choices like cinema1 cin1, PC, video etc so I guess it is working.

I did see brightness dips with the HD8200, not all over the place but allot of times and repeatable. The lamp Iris is what really takes things up on the HD8600.
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post #78 of 660
12/7/09 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by darinp2 View Post

If somebody got one to Mark Petersen he could measure the MTF. Back before he was measuring MTF he did a comparison that included the Optoma 8200, JVC RS20, and Planar 8150. I believe the Optoma had the highest ANSI CR, but the article here:

http://www.videovantage.com/?p=11

says that it looked less sharp than the 8150 and I think it might have even looked less sharp to Mark than the RS20, although I'm not sure on the last one.

It would be interesting to see if the 8600 has improved sharpness over the 8200.

--Darin

Mark asked me for some help on that one. It's a new marketing company they don't know everybody, maybe I can help if I talk to them. It took Tzungilin stepping it to get the machine to me. (Thanks Tz)
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post #79 of 660
12/7/09 at 5:32pm
Thread Starter 
Note that forum sponsor Visual Apex has the H5080 in stock for under $3K with free shipping.
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post #80 of 660
12/7/09 at 6:49pm
"Look all we are asking for is Perfection at an affordable price..... "

Judging by the divorce rate, that's not working out too well.
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post #81 of 660
12/8/09 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by houstonht View Post

I know I am not the only one with issues with Optoma, and as I mentioned, I would stay away at all costs.

I couldn't agree more. Optoma always tempts me with bright pj's and decent color, but their reliability is so terrible (and customer service) that I've sworn off their products for life. I'm hoping the new Infocus is going to hit the ball out of the park, but that might be too optimistic.
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post #82 of 660
12/8/09 at 8:48am
To add to the pool I owned a HD80 for 2 1/2 years and had zero issues.
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post #83 of 660
12/8/09 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

To add to the pool I owned a HD80 for 2 1/2 years and had zero issues.

Like someone said, the people that have issues speak out more.
I had an H77, H79 and HD8200 and had zero issues.

Rarely have you seen a thread title, "I have XYZ pojector and it's working fine".

I'm not sticking up for Optoma as I know people have had issues and maybe more than other companies, but it's not as bad as some here make it sound.
(And not as rosie as guitarman makes it sound) JK, Tom.


Scott
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post #84 of 660
12/8/09 at 12:53pm
They muck up all the threads not knowing when to shut up.

Wonder if the same thing happens on the Benq, Sharp, Panny, Samsung talks who also had their share.

There should be a rule, you had a problem with a projector? One complaint post per thread, that's it.

Hey my color wheel broke on my Sharp Z2000 and Optoma H56, there's my one complaint for this thread.

No no no no no no the best one is multi posts how bad everything is and they never even owned a Optoma projector.
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post #85 of 660
12/8/09 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

They muck up all the threads not knowing when to shut up.

There should be a rule, you had a problem with a projector? One complaint post per thread, that's it.

I have a better idea Tom. How about one complaint per failed projector?

Let's see, I guess that leaves me five more for this thread, since I'm on my SEVENTH Optoma HD81 series projector.

I would ask how anybody on this forum would feel if they paid $6,000 for a projector, then hundreds more for an extended warranty with Optoma, then
more money(which I am not allowed to disclose) to trade up to the HD81-LV because I lost faith in the HD-81 after it failed three times in nine months?
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post #86 of 660
12/8/09 at 1:15pm
I never had any problems ( other than possibly an early dimming bulb ) with my H79, and I have 2 friends with H31's that just keep working - for freak'n years now.
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post #87 of 660
12/8/09 at 1:37pm
If your only going to allow 1 "complaint" post per thread, then you should only be allowed 1 "praise" post per thread.

fair and square.
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post #88 of 660
12/8/09 at 1:49pm
Maybe we should all just get back to the point. Is the 8600 any good or not? Or is the vivitek h5080 the samething just less money?
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post #89 of 660
12/8/09 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff Regan View Post

I have a better idea Tom. How about one complaint per failed projector?

Let's see, I guess that leaves me five more for this thread, since I'm on my SEVENTH Optoma HD81 series projector.

I would ask how anybody on this forum would feel if they paid $6,000 for a projector, then hundreds more for an extended warranty with Optoma, then
more money(which I am not allowed to disclose) to trade up to the HD81-LV because I lost faith in the HD-81 after it failed three times in nine months?

I know get your buddy art over here you can do a round robbin.

All in good fun. I hope your LV gives you better service.
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post #90 of 660
12/8/09 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by bezlar View Post

Maybe we should all just get back to the point. Is the 8600 any good or not? Or is the vivitek h5080 the samething just less money?

Lawguy said he's getting one lets wait for how good the DI is. If it's great I'd get that one no matter who makes it.
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