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post #1381 of 2735
10/13/10 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by elec tech View Post

Had to exchange a doa 635 for a 3600. Not very happy about it since on paper the 635 had a much better audio section but unfortunatly, I never got to hear it. Did anyone hear the two? Is it worth repairing the 635 for the audio or is the 3600 comparable?

A DOA 635..
That unit has not been manufactured for almost 5 years..
Good in its day but dated..

Just my $0.02...
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post #1382 of 2735
10/13/10 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by elec tech View Post

Had to exchange a doa 635 for a 3600. Not very happy about it since on paper the 635 had a much better audio section but unfortunatly, I never got to hear it. Did anyone hear the two? Is it worth repairing the 635 for the audio or is the 3600 comparable?

I had a 635 that couldn't make it past the first week, but when it did work it was awesome (i was upgrading from a Elite 49vsx at the time). I got the 3600 on order but due to the weight and lower amperage have been wondering the same thing about the sound. Only the 7550HD carries the same amperage and weight as the older lineup of AVR's (and is priced similarly to the old lineup as well).

Caveat; i'm far from an audio engineer so I don't know if that's what directly contributed to the sound, but the weight of those units to the new lineup seems odd. - even though on the 3600 the watts are higher.
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post #1383 of 2735
10/13/10 at 8:54am
Don't know if this is the case in this instance or not, but as technology advances, things get lighter and more efficient. I've read the same things in some of the Denon threads about the weight of the avr's getting lighter and how that could affect performance.
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post #1384 of 2735
10/13/10 at 9:09am
Mcode - Is the extra money worth it for the 3600 as compared to the 2600. I have done a bit of research and it seems there isn't a whole lot different. Will 2600 support 3D?
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post #1385 of 2735
10/13/10 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by CEngineer View Post

Mcode - Is the extra money worth it for the 3600 as compared to the 2600. I have done a bit of research and it seems there isn't a whole lot different. Will 2600 support 3D?

I had the 2600 first then upgraded to the 3600 mainly for the pre-outs.
The both should support 3D after the firmware upgrade.
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post #1386 of 2735
10/13/10 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by blumonk View Post

I had the 2600 first then upgraded to the 3600 mainly for the pre-outs.
The both should support 3D after the firmware upgrade.

So far I only have found the differences to be pre-outs, iPod bridge and more watts per channel. Anyone know of anything else?

I think the wattage in the 2600 is fine, I don't need the pre-outs and I could just by the bridge separate if I wanted it and still save money as compared to the 3600.
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post #1387 of 2735
10/13/10 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by CEngineer View Post

So far I only have found the differences to be pre-outs, iPod bridge and more watts per channel. Anyone know of anything else?

I think the wattage in the 2600 is fine, I don't need the pre-outs and I could just by the bridge separate if I wanted it and still save money as compared to the 3600.

I read through this whole thread before buying my 3600 - and the only differences I saw discussed were the pre-outs, wattage, and include Bridge as you have noted.
I opted for the 3600 because of the option to expand with the pre-outs, and I have all of my music on an ipod and iphone so it made more sense vs the 2600. Look on eBay for the seller "harmanaudio" and you can get great deals on either model if you don't mind a refurbished unit.
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post #1388 of 2735
10/13/10 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by PTAaron View Post

I read through this whole thread before buying my 3600 - and the only differences I saw discussed were the pre-outs, wattage, and include Bridge as you have noted.
I opted for the 3600 because of the option to expand with the pre-outs, and I have all of my music on an ipod and iphone so it made more sense vs the 2600. Look on eBay for the seller "harmanaudio" and you can get great deals on either model if you don't mind a refurbished unit.

Can anyone confirm that the Bridge III will work with the 2600?

I can get one for around $50 on Amazon, much less than the upgrade to the 3600, just want to make sure it is compatible.

Thanks ahead for the info.
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post #1389 of 2735
10/13/10 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by CEngineer View Post

Can anyone confirm that the Bridge III will work with the 2600?

I can get one for around $50 on Amazon, much less than the upgrade to the 3600, just want to make sure it is compatible.

Thanks ahead for the info.

Harman Kardon confirms it on their site
http://www.harmankardon.com/EN-US/Pr...20BRIDGE%20III
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The Bridge III Docking Station for iPod® and iPhone®

Is your home entertainment system incomplete without music from your iPod® or iPhone®? The Bridge III connects directly the AVR 2600 and AVR 3600 Harman Kardon® AVR receivers and allows you to use your AVR's remote to select and play audio and video content - guided by on-screen or front-panel menus that you can read from across the room. Let the (gloriously uninterrupted) music begin.
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post #1390 of 2735
10/13/10 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by PTAaron View Post

Harman Kardon confirms it on their site
http://www.harmankardon.com/EN-US/Pr...20BRIDGE%20III

Thanks for the help!

I actually almost pulled the trigger on a 3600 last night on the Harman Audio ebay store. Luckily someone was REALLY motivated and spent about $100 more than they were typically going for.
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post #1391 of 2735
10/13/10 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by CEngineer View Post

Thanks for the help!

I actually almost pulled the trigger on a 3600 last night on the Harman Audio ebay store. Luckily someone was REALLY motivated and spent about $100 more than they were typically going for.

No problem!

Same thing happened to me when I got my 3600... 4 of them went up at once - but 2 got pulled back down during the bidding. The first one ended up going for A LOT more than I was willing to pay - the second went for about $50 more than I wanted to pay, but I didn't feel like waiting around for a new batch to show up.
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post #1392 of 2735
10/13/10 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by CEngineer View Post

Can anyone confirm that the Bridge III will work with the 2600?

I can get one for around $50 on Amazon, much less than the upgrade to the 3600, just want to make sure it is compatible.

Thanks ahead for the info.

I had the 2600 in my house for 3 weeks before I opted for the 3600.
My daughter was using the bridge every night with the 2600 practicing her dance routine, so I can personally vouch for for its use.
As for it's power...the 2600 has alot of power. There's no shortage there.
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post #1393 of 2735
10/13/10 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by Mattsushiba View Post

I had a 635 that couldn't make it past the first week, but when it did work it was awesome (i was upgrading from a Elite 49vsx at the time). I got the 3600 on order but due to the weight and lower amperage have been wondering the same thing about the sound. Only the 7550HD carries the same amperage and weight as the older lineup of AVR's (and is priced similarly to the old lineup as well).

Caveat; i'm far from an audio engineer so I don't know if that's what directly contributed to the sound, but the weight of those units to the new lineup seems odd. - even though on the 3600 the watts are higher.

And thats exactly what I was thinking. Coming from high end car stereo, weight does mean alot. Although I'm not an engineer, I have always found that the best amplifiers are jammed packed with electronics and very heavy. Going from a 40+ pound 635 to a not even 30 pound 3600 makes me kinda skeptical. I do understand that the 3600 is light years ahead of the 635 when it comes to features and setup, but I was really looking for a superb audio section. The only thing that seems to have a comprable audio section with harmon's current lineup is the 7550, but harmon audio would not exchange for that. The other option they gave was for a 354 in exchange but the 3600 appears to be the clear choice between the two. I ended up getting the 3600. Hopefully it does the job.
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post #1394 of 2735
10/14/10 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by elec tech View Post

And thats exactly what I was thinking. Coming from high end car stereo, weight does mean alot. Although I'm not an engineer, I have always found that the best amplifiers are jammed packed with electronics and very heavy. Going from a 40+ pound 635 to a not even 30 pound 3600 makes me kinda skeptical. I do understand that the 3600 is light years ahead of the 635 when it comes to features and setup, but I was really looking for a superb audio section. The only thing that seems to have a comprable audio section with harmon's current lineup is the 7550, but harmon audio would not exchange for that. The other option they gave was for a 354 in exchange but the 3600 appears to be the clear choice between the two. I ended up getting the 3600. Hopefully it does the job.

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts when it arrives. fingers crossed.
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post #1395 of 2735
10/14/10 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by Mattsushiba View Post

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts when it arrives. fingers crossed.

Actually, I wanted to hear your thoughts when your 3600 arrives since my 635 only worked for 3 minutes. I really didn't get a chance to hear the thing to do a good comparison.
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post #1396 of 2735
10/15/10 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by reisb View Post

I have not heard too much on the firmware upgrade. I know it does not fix the audio dropping.

Do we know what it fixes and if it's worth upgrading? Last upgrade took seconds to install so I assume it didn't do much. Is this one larger?

I upgraded my 2600 to 1.1 to get it up to HDMI 1.4a in preparation for adding a 3D Samsung LED . I believe the FW update addressed HDMI performance and 3D support. Ugh had to re-enter all my settings.
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post #1397 of 2735
10/15/10 at 1:51pm
Can someone please explain how I hook up a wii to my 2600. I tried and failed. Also what inputs do the receiver and tv need to be set to? Thanks.
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post #1398 of 2735
10/15/10 at 2:28pm
Just an FYI for you guys that newegg.com is now carrying HK AVR 1600, 2600, and 3600 as well as their stereo units. I noticed this a week or so ago but finally had time to post the news here. Prices don't look to bad either.
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post #1399 of 2735
10/15/10 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by Ruggerxpunk View Post

Can someone please explain how I hook up a wii to my 2600. I tried and failed. Also what inputs do the receiver and tv need to be set to? Thanks.

I'm sure it is very similar to hooking it up to the 3600: Hooked video to Component 1 (I have the "HD" Wii connector set) and audio to Analog 3. (just what I used... you can use any of the analog audio inputs)
I decided to make this Sat/Cable ... so go into your onscreen display (setup menu), set the video for Sat/Cable to "Component 1" and the audio to "Analog 3" ... change the name to "Wii" and you are good to go.
As far as the TV... depends on how you have your AVR hooked to the TV. My TV is set to HDMI
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post #1400 of 2735
10/16/10 at 12:05pm
Experts,

Upgraded my 2600 to 1.1 FW to get compliant with a new 3D TV and DVD player. Changed my XBox to use HDMI and 1080P for the new TV. Now when I start MW2, during the opening graphic/sound, the 2600 goes into Protect and shuts down. If I turn it back on it seems to work fine. If I tap A on the controller to bypass the opening graphic/swoosh sound it seems to be fine.

What could be going on here?

thanks!
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post #1401 of 2735
10/16/10 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by theperkman View Post

Experts,

Upgraded my 2600 to 1.1 FW to get compliant with a new 3D TV and DVD player. Changed my XBox to use HDMI and 1080P for the new TV. Now when I start MW2, during the opening graphic/sound, the 2600 goes into Protect and shuts down. If I turn it back on it seems to work fine. If I tap A on the controller to bypass the opening graphic/swoosh sound it seems to be fine.

What could be going on here?

thanks!

Figured it out. I had not hooked up my rear surrounds yet from the receiver to the wall panel that goes to the speakers. So the live speaker wires were laying on the ground and the positive/negatives were touching. So when any surround material played, the receiver shut down due to the short!
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post #1402 of 2735
10/18/10 at 7:31am
Does anyone know if the HK 2600 w/ 1.1 FW supports the ARC?

These Samsung U55C8000 tvs have apps like Pandora streaming wirelessly. I need to feed that stream back to my 2600. The TV has an HDMI port for it but I don't see documentation on the 2600 on how to access that stream for playback through the receiver.

Thank you.
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post #1403 of 2735
10/18/10 at 8:29am
Bought a HK 2600 off of Harman Audio Ebay store this weekend along with a Bridge III at Amazon, all for under $400. Can't beat that price, bang for your buck. Upgrading from an HK 335, can't wait to get my hands on it!
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post #1404 of 2735
10/18/10 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by theperkman View Post

Does anyone know if the HK 2600 w/ 1.1 FW supports the ARC?

These Samsung U55C8000 tvs have apps like Pandora streaming wirelessly. I need to feed that stream back to my 2600. The TV has an HDMI port for it but I don't see documentation on the 2600 on how to access that stream for playback through the receiver.

Thank you.

The U55C8000 has an optical digital out. Plug it in to the HK.
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post #1405 of 2735
10/18/10 at 10:30am
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/affor...y.html?start=2
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post #1406 of 2735
10/18/10 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by TWilly View Post

The U55C8000 has an optical digital out. Plug it in to the HK.

Looking for a way to avoid more cables and use the technology built-in, if the 2600 supports it.

Thanks.
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post #1407 of 2735
10/22/10 at 8:25am
I just purchased the HKTS 15 speaker system and was planning on getting the AVR 1600 to power them. Just wondering if this receiver would be considered an "appropriate" choice for the speakers? I understand they are both entry level H/K products, but they do sound substantially better than the home-theatre-in-a-box systems I was originally considering.
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post #1408 of 2735
10/22/10 at 10:45am
Can anybody explain what if any EQ is performed on the sub in the AVR3600? I am looking at adding the Anti-mode to the Servo-15 but I thought I would see if the HK eq is satisfactory?

I just installed the 3600 last night and haven't had much time to play with it, and I haven't plotted the sub response yet but the Anti-mode has me really intrigued due to my less than stellar sub placement (front corner).

Anybody else used the EZset EQ with anti-mode?
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post #1409 of 2735
10/22/10 at 11:03am
Can anyone tell me if the 2600 can pass through 1080p/24 content unmolested?
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post #1410 of 2735
10/22/10 at 11:10am
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Can anyone tell me if the 2600 can pass through 1080p/24 content unmolested?

I believe that's what bypass mode is. I would assume that bypass means untouched from the original source but I guess it's hard to know for sure what they are doing with it.
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