ATI Radeon HD 5800, 5700 and 5600 Series Thread: Supporting HD Audio Bitstreaming! - Page 146

I'm running HDMI via Cat6 x2 in my house to do multi-room video. My Dish box handles the HDMI output just fine, but my HTPC's integrated radeon 3200 seems to be to underpowered. You guys have any luck running a long cable with your radeon 5xxx?

on another note, i connected the 5670 right to TV and get audio...
so it doesnt like the SONY STR-DN1000

or its the hdmi cable, since i used another to connect to tv...

im using a edid override file i found in forum for the sony.... no change...no audio

Yes (documented several times in this thread.


It's the official driver from RealTek... The people who make the HDMI chip that is used in the ATI devices.

maybe you can help me out. I got PDVD9 as well latest build. I can't get the uncompressed hdmi output option to show up under audio output. Any ideas?

I'm not sure if anybody else is using profiles/hotkeys to change refresh rates, and driving their refresh rates at NTSC-derived rates, 29.97 ("29"), 23.976 ("23") and 59.94 ("59").

If you are (like me), there is this problem that the profiles in CCC didn't call those rates, instead they called up 30, 24 and 60 respectively, so in order to change via hotkey/profile to the other NTSC specific rates you had to use a third party app.

I just found an easy way to fix this. Make sure you've saved your profiles to change to 29, 23 and 59 and close CCC.

Enable hidden files, go to your user folder and AppData\\Local\\ATI\\ACE\\Profiles. You'll have one .xml file for each profile. Choose the one you want to change and edit it with notepad.

Change the highlighted number in the following screenshot (it shows the number after I changed it). For your "29" profile, it will say "30" so change it to 29. For the "23" profile it will say "24" so change it to 23... you get the idea.




Besides this, in my PC there is another bug with Media Center, in which it won't run at 29 Hz ever (but all other rates work). In this case there is a registry setting that takes care of this.

Change the value of RefreshRate to "29" (decimal). This will always open MC in 29 Hz.

So basically, pretty much all my gripes from these ATI cards are worked around for me.

If setting MC to 60 Hz from within the program doesn't work, try the registry setting above. In your case, it should already be set to 59, or if it's blank, just set it to 60.

BTW, I don't see a downside to just running the desktop at 59.94 instead of 60. I'm not sure if there's any content that runs at 60 flat, and if there is, it's very rare.

Andy,

If you're really honest.
If I just watch 720p and 1080p Mkv's (no blurays through my HTPC).
I just use MPC-HC, No Mediacenter 7.

Is it worth the hassle to achieve 24hz?
My ATI only gives me the 60hz option@1920x1080 right now. And If I start a quest to get 24hz, I need to know if it's useful for me.

I have an Epson HC8100 1080p Projector on a ATI 5770 (through a Onkyo Sr-875), Intel Core i5 750 and I'm running Windows 7 64 Bit Ultimate.

I haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.

So just for 720p/1080p MKV files with MPC-HC, should I try to get 24hz working?
I recon I have to set my desktop resolution to 24hz for that? (looks awful I guess).

Hope you can give me some advise.

Cheers,

E.

I don't get audio from 5670 to my denon as well.

Which EDID override? Have you already tried the DENON_MOD.inf in my sig.? If so, can you post the full 256-bit EDID of the Sony? (but beware that it still can't be captured with moninfo on a 5xxx).

Im running 10.1 and the overide for denon; seems dolby hd works, film is smooth, sound does dropout a lot though. If i play dts hd, the video runs about 1fps.

I cant use the realtek driver, installation runs ok, reboot still shows ati so a manual force of the driver is needed, soon as i switch, hdmi signal goes nuts and i lose the picture.

Uninstall the ATI driver manually from Device Manager and tick the option to "delete the driver software for this device". Reboot and then install the Realtek.

Sadly it reboots using the ms drivers, forcing to the hda inf in the realtek bundle makes it show like test pattterns then reboots the system.

Well, you need some driver cleaning it seems. Drivercleaner is the best, but not free.

Could someone explain to me how to do an EDID Override on a Yamaha RX-V663 AVR and a Samsung HLT5076

MC would run at 59 no problem, it is the desktop which would only run at 60.

I thought the 59 setting was the cause of some of my problems. I will change it back and see if they return. I was working many things at once.

Yamahas & Pioneer don't need an EDID override for bitstreaming HD audio, so should be OK without it.

ok, im a clown, somehow i had 2.41 realtek drivers which arent for ati... i now have 2.39 installed.

DTS mkvs were srill not playing video, i ticked matroska in mpc and thats fixed it, dts hd titles now play flawless.

I still get dropouts on dolby hd and now im not filling the full panel of my projector... but im almost there.

The only option showing up for me is 2 CH Stereo in configuration. I am using the 10.2 Beta drivers. I did not install any Realtek drivers.

Disregard it was a setting on my AVR!!

i only have a 56xx and 57xx cards
unless i take appart another machine, it has a 4850...

i got fustrated... so ill have to set it all back up again

Hey guys,
Just did a fresh install, only put in MPC, ffdshow, Haali, have got TrueHD bitstreaming with MPC, (can't get DTS-HD to work but then my m2ts file mya have not been muxed right, in the filter, file, properties it shows DTS-HD MA but @ 6 chanel, 1.5 MBps - and I only get DTS, but not too worried about that)
What I do need help with is avi and mpeg playback in 7MC. All my mkv's bitstream DD or DTS but I know I have some DD streams in my music videos and all I get is PCM.
I would like to set ffdshow as the audio decoder but for the life of me can't do it
Looked at graph studio which shows mpeg2 demultipexer - cyberlink video AND audio decoder. Could some kind soul help me assign ffdshow as the audio decoder...
Many thanks

Well first of all, I've found 24 Hz (the "24" setting) not very useful. What you want is 23.976 (the "23" Hz setting in CCC). Similarly, if you're playing "60p" and "60i" content, what you want is 59.94 (the "59" setting) or 29.97 interlaced (the "29i" setting) because those are the actual rates for most "60p" and "60i" content. These little mismatches do make a difference. Probably the difference between 59.94 and 60 is not that noticeable (you can still see it in a graph like MPC-HC's renderer provides), but with 23.976 and 24 the frames last longer, so when one frame repeats it's more noticeable. If you run 23.976 content (almost every movie) on 24 Hz, you'll have a repeated frame every certain number of seconds, and it's periodic so it can become annoying.

So that out of the way, yes, if your projector can display 23.976 (23) in an integer multiple, you're better off. The pans are noticeably smoother because there is no 2-3 pulldown. Most taped TV shows (even animation) are also 23.976 content. Nobody cared about the difference for TV shows in the past because nobody saw them at their original rate in the first place. With movies one could tell the difference in the theater at least, if one really paid attention.

Resolution doesn't matter, by the way. It will do the same good to run 480p movies in the 23 Hz setting. For DVDs, which store 23.976 content in 480/29.97 interlaced, the ATI will do the reverse pulldown just fine and display at 23.976 (if the movie is flagged or mastered correctly). It's worked for me in PowerDVD 8 and MPC-HC, haven't tested in other players.

Your problem seems to be that CCC is not offering you the 23 option, only the 60 option, so I'd see about that. It should be easy to get 23 on ATI cards, but if it's going to be too hard for you, then you have to experience it first to make up your own opinion. I like watching movies at 23, but many people don't care about 2-3 pulldown either.

Just in case, the settings in CCC will always show 24/30/60 even when it's set to 23/29/59. You can use MPC-HC and "display stats" in the renderer section (for EVR-CP) to see the actual refresh rate. If your desktop is set to 60, changing it directly to 59 in CCC will do nothing. You need to change it to something completely different (like 50, 30 or 24, whatever) and then back to 59.

Really? And you are looking in the powerdvd audio settings for it WHILE a bluray with hd audio is PLAYING? Thats the only way mine came up.

Your envy has the 5830 right? not the 4830?

Try unistalling tha hdmi audio driver and the entire hp ati catalyst suite... then reboot and try installing the suite again. it will automatically load the working hdmi audio driver. the installer is located on the Envy's C drive, look under swsetup/drivers/video.

Hope you get it working!

Also, read thru this thread and you will see that others have been having problems with certain makes of receivers. Mine would bitstream to my old sony, but would to my new Onkyo.

Gotcha, I will try that.

Okay got it, assigned ffdshow audio to 7MC by using hack 7MC guide, however the final thing is that I have mkv music videos that I know have dd but they are playing really crap audio through ffdshow, it's just messy on the bass and the sss in speech, anybody got an idea?
dbone, followed your media server guide and have mpc playing through media browser...as panda would say...there's no charge for awesomeness...
Thanks

Yeah, I got the new one with Core I5 and 5830.. I tried changing the setting with and without it playing. I will try removing and reinstalling the CCC and HDMI Driver and see what happens.

I have and Onkyo 805, so shouldn't be an issue.

I just put together a new machine yesterday with a Radeon 5770, and I can't get it working right with my receiver, both audio or video.

First, I have these annoying black borders on all sides of my screen. I know how to get rid of them, I need to open the "DTV" tab and change the overscan/underscan slider. Problem is that, for some reason, the "DTV" tab isn't showing up at all. I've gotten it to show up, but to do it, I had to connect both a DVI-->HDMI cable AND a regular HDMI cable to the video card and switch between the two on my receiver with CCC open. THEN, the "DTV" tab just magically appears sometimes, but it doesn't always retain my settings when I restart my machine, and I have to hook both connections up again. Really annoying. Also, my receiver is recognized -- it's an Onkyo TX-SR804 -- but where it should normally show your main display as a monitor icon, I have a blank space like this. http://i50.tinypic.com/pqamf.jpg

Next up is the HDMI audio. I've tried numerous drivers, both Realtek and ATI's own, and nothing seems to work. My problem is that my movies and games sound like they're only outputting the surround channels, but the sound is coming from the left and right channels, not the surround. My receiver doesn't support bitstreaming of HD codecs, but it does support multichannel PCM, is there a way to specify my card to output mutlichannel PCM only?

Honestly, this has been a nightmare so far, and I'm not holding my breath that I'll figure it out any time soon. I just can't find anything on either of my problems, so maybe I can be that reference post to help someone else out in the future. Any suggestions at this point I'll be grateful for.

does anyone think he is "really dishonest"? lol

scitek,

What happens when you right click on display 1 or 2?

But seriously, you should consider moving to Windows 7 already. I don't think bitstreaming will ever be supported on XP and I'm not sure how well is HDMI audio working there.

About your sound issue, have you set your output to higher than 48 kHz? If so, try setting it to 44.1 or 48. Also try playing DXVA content and see if it happens then.