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post #211 of 605
1/5/12 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

Perhaps just trying to better match with the T2 Skynet Edition cover art? I'm not getting my hopes up.

It has never been released in the UK before, this is the first UK release.
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post #212 of 605
1/5/12 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

The plot thickens

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003BNY6Y..._am_gb?ie=UTF8

That's the US digibook artwork, innit.

http://www.nt2099.com/J-ENT/blu-ray/terminator-b.jpg
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post #213 of 605
1/5/12 at 3:06pm
Yes, the point is not the art. The point is that it is finally getting a UK release and it may not be the same transfer, chances are that is is the same one, but why would they wait this long to finally release the old transfer?
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post #214 of 605
1/5/12 at 3:38pm
I'm proceeding with caution.
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post #215 of 605
1/5/12 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

I'm proceeding with caution.

As am I
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post #216 of 605
3/28/12 at 2:18am
Anyone who wants to compare the fine grain of a release print of The Terminator with the current Blu-ray and DVDs, can grab two frames on our blog here.

http://www.hdvision-mag.com/2012/03/...t-formats.html

It WILL look good once remastered
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post #217 of 605
4/9/12 at 10:09am
UK disc put back to November from May New master maybe?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Terminat...3991291&sr=8-2
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post #218 of 605
4/9/12 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

UK disc put back to November from May New master maybe?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Terminat...3991291&sr=8-2

Maybe, James Cameron got time to go through the pile of Terminators that customers have been blessed with and decided that the time has finally come to soil his hands.

Still remember pestering my Dad to give me money to grab a VHS copy.
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post #219 of 605
4/13/12 at 7:04pm
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Someone on another forum pointed out this "brochure": http://www.lowrydigital.com/EPK.pdf



Reliance MediaWorks (Lowry) selected filmography, including The Terminator and True Lies. I probably can't link to it but their list on a social networking site from February 24, 2010 also included both films. No sign of T2.
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post #220 of 605
4/14/12 at 10:53pm
Yeah the Lowry restoration of The Terminator has been sitting on the shelf for years now. A real shame because I would love to see how it looks. :/
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post #221 of 605
4/15/12 at 1:24am
A lowry restoration?!? Is that some kind of a joke? A studio is not going to invest the time or money for a significant restoration on a title 3 decades old with such minimal sales prospects.

I can see a quick fix taking place a la total recall, with a boost in color and contrast, and some cheap algorithm to digitally get rid of some of the grime. They are not going to be cleaning this print frame by frame, that's for sure.
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post #222 of 605
4/15/12 at 6:26am
Hmmmm, you must be new around here.
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post #223 of 605
4/15/12 at 7:12am
Yeah, me think he is new, or trolling.
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post #224 of 605
4/15/12 at 2:44pm
So, you OBVIOUSLY have a citation of the story documenting that a lowry restoration has been done.....


















....no, you don't.
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post #225 of 605
4/15/12 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by Hi_Def_Boss View Post

So, you OBVIOUSLY have a citation of the story documenting that a lowry restoration has been done.....

....no, you don't.

It has been confirmed by Van Ling, Cameron's home video guy.
Not sure why you think it's unlikely that Terminator would get a remaster. It's not exactly some obscure art film from the 80s.
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post #226 of 605
4/15/12 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by Hi_Def_Boss View Post

So, you OBVIOUSLY have a citation of the story documenting that a lowry restoration has been done.....

....no, you don't.

I have something even better.

An 'ignore' button.
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post #227 of 605
4/15/12 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

Someone on another forum pointed out this "brochure": http://www.lowrydigital.com/EPK.pdf



Reliance MediaWorks (Lowry) selected filmography, including The Terminator and True Lies. I probably can't link to it but their list on a social networking site from February 24, 2010 also included both films. No sign of T2.

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Originally Posted by Hi_Def_Boss View Post

A lowry restoration?!? Is that some kind of a joke? A studio is not going to invest the time or money for a significant restoration on a title 3 decades old with such minimal sales prospects.

I can see a quick fix taking place a la total recall, with a boost in color and contrast, and some cheap algorithm to digitally get rid of some of the grime. They are not going to be cleaning this print frame by frame, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Hi_Def_Boss View Post

So, you OBVIOUSLY have a citation of the story documenting that a lowry restoration has been done.....



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post #228 of 605
4/20/12 at 11:14am
Supposedly the new transfer will come with the steelbook release later this year. I cant wait!

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....46#post6054246
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post #229 of 605
4/20/12 at 11:23am
We shall see...
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post #230 of 605
4/20/12 at 11:48am
Highdefninja is claiming that it is "confirmed" to be the yet unseen Lowry master. Van Ling arranged the special features.

If it turns out as well as Aliens, I'll be happy.
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post #231 of 605
4/20/12 at 12:51pm
I'll happily await a non-steelbook US release.
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post #232 of 605
4/20/12 at 5:27pm
Key must for me is original mono and not that terrible, widely panned remix that sound nothing like the original. AND that is missing a lot of music.
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post #233 of 605
4/20/12 at 5:30pm
I do not recall MGM re-releasing a BD with a new transfer before, so this would be the first.

MGM has re-issued Terminator with a different case cover (wow) and same transfer however.
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post #234 of 605
4/20/12 at 7:00pm
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

Key must for me is original mono and not that terrible, widely panned remix that sound nothing like the original. AND that is missing a lot of music.

Love that silenced gun noise.
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post #235 of 605
4/21/12 at 3:24pm
In lieu of the original mono audio ('cause I doubt it will be on the UK platter) a more respectful remix would do me fine, in place of the current abomination. They must have had the dialogue stems to create the atrocious 5.1 track, so what the **** happened to the music and effects stems?

Well, I suppose I can begrudgingly appreciate why they would go to a new stereo source for the music (IIRC Brad Fiedel supplied the masters for the remix himself) but ignoring the original blood-and-thunder effects track was utter lunacy. It's not the same film that I love, simple as that.
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post #236 of 605
4/22/12 at 9:21am
I also pray Cameron doesn't digitally tinker with any shots in the film as he did with Aliens.
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post #237 of 605
4/22/12 at 11:39am
Heh. After I saw Lance Henriksen's torso poking up out of the floor at the end of Aliens I could never un-see it, and I'm very glad it's gone. The stabilisation of the matte extension to the hangar bay was also most welcome. Cameron only corrected the most egregious flubs, leaving in things like the wires holding up the drop ship models.

There are a couple of things I'd LOVE to see fixed in Terminator. Better compositing would really help that cheesy blue-screen shot of the T-800 bearing down on the door at the machine factory. And there's no reason why the blatant wire that's pulling the petrol tanker along shouldn't be erased. Everything else is gravy.
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post #238 of 605
4/22/12 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Heh. After I saw Lance Henriksen's torso poking up out of the floor at the end of Aliens I could never un-see it, and I'm very glad it's gone. The stabilisation of the matte extension to the hangar bay was also most welcome. Cameron only corrected the most egregious flubs, leaving in things like the wires holding up the drop ship models.

There are a couple of things I'd LOVE to see fixed in Terminator. Better compositing would really help that cheesy blue-screen shot of the T-800 bearing down on the door at the machine factory. And there's no reason why the blatant wire that's pulling the petrol tanker along shouldn't be erased. Everything else is gravy.

Its nothing wrong correcting a flaw no one saw during their first time viewing. I took some viewing before I saw Bishops torso. So removing it just help us see it as it looked the first time.

Im not so sure about the blue screen shoot (I guess its actually a rear projection shoot) because thats how the movie looked the first time you saw it. But on the other hand if it makes a great movie even better, why not. But then we have the issue of Arnolds puppet that isnt seemless with the live action footage. So maybe its better to leave things alone before you make one change to much.
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post #239 of 605
4/23/12 at 4:48pm
I hope they put more original flaws in especially if it annoys the revisionists.
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post #240 of 605
4/23/12 at 5:31pm
My philosophy is this:

If it looked that way originally, and that's what people saw on a big 50' screen, then why change it?
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