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Originally Posted by khronikos View Post

"But the Aliens remaster which was 100% supervised by Jim Cameron (one of, if not THE most talented filmmaker ever) is flawless. This is a statement piece and a showcase of what modern technology can do to a 25 year old film.
Yes, there is a teal push to make it look a bit more modern. But this new color timing is significantly superior to what was done in 1986 in every possible way. The talk that it hardly has any other colors besides teal is complete nonsense and is laughable at best.
Everything else with the transfer is perfection, film like grain, moderate DNR, no EE, no black crush, etc. And amazing lossless original soundtrack.
Of all the classic films that have been mistreated over the years, you guys have the nerve to pick on this one?"
I tend to agree with this though saying this guy is the most talented filmmaker ever is pretty much heresy. This guy has a ton of awful films imo and even when they are great they offer no reflection on society or high art or anything like that. I will just hope you meant filmmaker as in the guy on the grounds creating a rich film world or something. His action films are definitely pretty great but in no way does this guy even exist in my top 20 directors. That is only my opinion though.
I am still pissed at how he ruined The Abyss with that ending from gotdamn hell. If he could have only left us with the guy sinking into the abyss and then maybe nothing or anything really than what he did to that film. I refuse to watch it ever again. I loved 98% of it but that 2% kills me to the heart.

It is not real grain you know, right?
post #302 of 605
I've made some screen cap comparisons between the Blu-ray (awful) and the remastered 1080P trailer. Please view them with a sense of humor, because the 1080P trailer has atrocious picture quality. Nevertheless, one can get a general feel for color correction and restoration (removal of dirt, damage, framing, etc.).

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146860

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146861

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146858

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146856

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146854

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146852
Edited by NagysAudio - 9/22/12 at 3:59pm
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post #304 of 605
The Tealinator.
post #305 of 605
As opposed to Pinkanator??
post #306 of 605
Looking good NagysAudio
post #307 of 605
Does nobody like natural color anymore? Jesus christ.
post #308 of 605
And for the curious, a good article giving some explanation for why this keeps happening:

http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html
post #309 of 605
Has anyone considered that the NEW Terminator transfer is simply the old one from 2001 with Teal, fake grain, and some selective edge enhancement.
This is what Reliance/Lowry does, thats hows they does it.
post #310 of 605
I don't think anyone with even the slightest amount of common sense has considered that...

Lowry does fantastic work BTW.
post #311 of 605
post #312 of 605
Ahahaha, that new color grading is 100% awful, just horrendous.

I mean, honestly:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146911

That's insane. It looks like someone just tossed a bucket of teal paint over the image.
post #313 of 605
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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins View Post

Ahahaha, that new color grading is 100% awful, just horrendous.
I mean, honestly:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146911
That's insane. It looks like someone just tossed a bucket of teal paint over the image.

That shot with the new colour grading is so much better than the old pink shifted nonsense.

New version looks beautiful.
post #314 of 605
I'd like a hit or two or whatever you're smoking.

The new version has such an insane teal bias that in that shot I linked literally every single color is a variant of teal. There is no flesh tone to speak of, just teal. No white, no black - just teal. It's ridiculous looking.

I mean, it just looks terrible. I'm not that worried about it personally as I was never a big fan of the film but I feel bad for the fans who were anticipating this release. The teal bias just looks textbook unnatural and bad.
post #315 of 605
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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins View Post

I'd like a hit or two or whatever you're smoking.
The new version has such an insane teal bias that in that shot I linked literally every single color is a variant of teal. There is no flesh tone to speak of, just teal. No white, no black - just teal. It's ridiculous looking.
I mean, it just looks terrible. I'm not that worried about it personally as I was never a big fan of the film but I feel bad for the fans who were anticipating this release. The teal bias just looks textbook unnatural and bad.



That's during the Police station assault where all the lights have gone. (Plus it's a very lossy pic).

The below shot is whilst the lights are still working

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146860

Goddamn, just dig that awesomeness. I can't for the actual blu ray to arrive.
post #316 of 605
The shot from the Police station seems to be the only good scene. Almost all the others looked as they where scrubbed from grain. Has Cameron really supervised this?
post #317 of 605
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Originally Posted by surap View Post

The shot from the Police station seems to be the only good scene. Almost all the others looked as they where scrubbed from grain. Has Cameron really supervised this?
YouTube got lucky on that frame. You absolutely cannot judge detail/grain quality from YouTube, the low bitrate streaming is what is scrubing the grain away. But that teal isn't going anywhere...
post #318 of 605
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

YouTube got lucky on that frame. You absolutely cannot judge detail/grain quality from YouTube, the low bitrate streaming is what is scrubing the grain away. But that teal isn't going anywhere...

The low bit rate is killing the quality.

Not to mention that good shot (from police station) has a much larger file size compared to the lights out police station shot.

I prefer this new colour grade.cool.gif
post #319 of 605
I think the new color grade looks awesome. Just like Aliens. I hate the 80's red push.
post #320 of 605
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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins View Post

Ahahaha, that new color grading is 100% awful, just horrendous.
I mean, honestly:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/146911
That's insane. It looks like someone just tossed a bucket of teal paint over the image.
That's true, and it gives the weird impression the teal helps hide the ugly grain of the U.S. release.
However, there does appear to be greater detail in some of the shots.

Definitely a love/hate release....
post #321 of 605
For the people who love it, look at the front of the truck, all the detail is lost!
Edited by dvdmike007 - 9/23/12 at 4:01am
post #322 of 605
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Originally Posted by supersonic395 View Post

The low bit rate is killing the quality.
Not to mention that good shot (from police station) has a much larger file size compared to the lights out police station shot.
I prefer this new colour grade.cool.gif
I don't know what's sadder. That you two have been doing the same reach-around act on a certain other site, or the fact that you joined here, just to do the same thing.

It's not real love, ya know?
post #323 of 605
Sometimes you have to settle in both love and transfers
post #324 of 605
Mike, you're judging detail from that compressed mess? For a second, I thought I was on bluray.com. Credibility lost.
post #325 of 605
Who did the screenshot comparisons? Who wasted their time with it? Who is being the Cameron/Lowry defence force? Also credibility?! Trololol

I seriously doubt a non YouTube actual bluray shot will fix that black crush
Edited by dvdmike007 - 9/23/12 at 1:15pm
post #326 of 605
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

I don't know what's sadder. That you two have been doing the same reach-around act on a certain other site, or the fact that you joined here, just to do the same thing.
It's not real love, ya know?

I don't know what you're trying to get at.

Surely, if the same user posts across different sites then it is to be expected that said person's opinion will be the same. Right?

Different personalities for different sites? Is that the cool thing to do?
post #327 of 605
Did you miss the disclaimer?
post #328 of 605
You mean the health warning that you have attached
post #329 of 605
post #330 of 605
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

You mean the health warning that you have attached

What, like "Can cause irritation"?
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